Why is that lineup magically so much better? Garnacho has yet to look overly impressive when starting, Sancho has had two games, and has looked better on the left than the right, and Rashford has generally been best off the left side too. Weghorst was crucial defending set pieces too, which was key today given we had Maguire as the only other aerial presence in the squad. Sancho, Fred, Garnacho, Malacia is a lot of non-factors defending set pieces away from home in the premier league.
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September 2021 was last time he played 90 minutes for us. The guy is made of tissue paper. We can't get 2 games in a row out of him let alone rest of the year.
I know and its a real pity. Our season looks much better with a fit Martial for me. I appreciate Wout but its a pity he is having to be a starter instead of a bench option.
What did he exactly do for Rashford goal?
He gets abuse but he was vital in that 2nd goal. Well done Wout.
He's average, good attitude but we need much better. He'll go back to Burnley in the summer.
He was excellent today. If he had any pace whatsoever he'd be okay. Does a job for us despite being so limited, but won't ever be prolific, which is kinda vital for his position.
He failed to play a similar through ball earlier.
It's not like only WW can do that, and play that position, is it? Bruno's bread and butter.
Can someone please explain to me why we need to shoehorn everyone so WW can play a part? It's not like WW playing help us to rest key players. Bruno and Rashford still played plenty minutes, if not going through 90 minutes regularly. We played better when WW subbed off, or changed position because Rashford being better in WW's supposed position.
Bruno failed to do multiple things today, so not sure there's much point saying that.
He did a good job today that Bruno couldn't. He earnt us a goal while Bruno didn't.
I'm not saying i'd like to see it every game, but in matches like this where midfield is closed off, Bruno is ineffective and better in space.
Because we’ve seen that every time we’ve taken Weghorst off and brought on a combination of the other attackers we’ve instantly looked better? The stats back it up too, we score far more goals when Weghorst isn’t on the the pitch then when he is.
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We scored two with him on the pitch today and he played a big part in us gaining control of the game the last 25 minutes. Why should we ignore that? He helped us keep possession and laid the ball off to our midfield/attackers on contested balls quite a few times in the second half. he is also solid defensively which cannot be ignored.
Excellent for Leeds maybe. His lack of actual footballing skills is quite worrisome.
Every game we're forced to put Rashford up front in 2nd half because Weghorst provides zero threat and our attack looks disjointed.
We need to stop delaying the inevitable and just put Rashford up front from the start.
Nice assist today but no way has he done enough to justify being automatic first choice every game.
People say Garnacho hasn't done enough when he's started but neither has Weghorst who's been given way more opportunities game after game. At least Garnacho poses some sort of danger to the opposition. If we give Garnacho 7 starts in a row like Weghorst has got then he'll contribute far more than WW.
We need to stop delaying the inevitable and just put Rashford up front from the start.
Nice assist today but no way has he done enough to justify being automatic first choice every game.
People say Garnacho hasn't done enough when he's started but neither has Weghorst who's been given way more opportunities game after game. At least Garnacho poses some sort of danger to the opposition. If we give Garnacho 7 starts in a row like Weghorst has got then he'll contribute far more than WW.
I thought he was decent today. Some good composure and held the ball up well
Literally a Donny vdB regen in the striker role
He's limited as feck and almost no existent as a striker, but he did very well today holding up the play and allowing us to build out of our own half
Rashford ran too early a little or Bruno could have an assist later on.
I saw shoehorning.
WW failed his job until the tactical change more than anyone. It's evidently with last game against Leeds too. The change came almost the same.
Rashford was not known to score much with heading, yet both games, after moving top, he headed goals. Is it our players refusing to cross to WW, or is it that his positioning is bad. Why we struggled the same way to build attack, getting crossers into position to cross the ball, when WW played up front both games?
If not for WW, someone else playing that supporting forward can press and make that second assist in my "arrogant" opinion
Yes but I'd say Alistair Overeem could help us hold the ball better, hope we are not looking to sign him next.
The Fellaini role.
Well, he is who he is, and the squad is what it is because of our circumstances. You can bleat about it like a sheep with a Leeds fan hammering their arsehole or cheer them on. He did well today and we got the points.
Brilliant in the hole today. Better than Bruno in that role.
Got an assist for Garnacho's goal. Offside goal late on. Other than that seemed to act as a defensive forward, more in evidence helping out the defence, than contributing to attacking moves; so little understanding between him and the rest of the team. I'm bewildered that Ten Hag is still persisting with Weghorst. He doesn't suit Fernandes at all.
So far his attempts in the PL consist of a reasonable header over against Palace away, and a header saved from a corner against Palace at home.
His key passes: Fred shot off-target from long distance, Garnacho's goal, Rashford's shot off-target from long distance, Antony shot from distance blocked, Fred shot off-target from an angle, Varane shot blocked after corner, Casemiro shot blocked from very long distance.
So far his attempts in the PL consist of a reasonable header over against Palace away, and a header saved from a corner against Palace at home.
His key passes: Fred shot off-target from long distance, Garnacho's goal, Rashford's shot off-target from long distance, Antony shot from distance blocked, Fred shot off-target from an angle, Varane shot blocked after corner, Casemiro shot blocked from very long distance.
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He did well with the tactical change.
I did find it funny when he missed the header unchallenged, don't know why, maybe cos of his size.
It's a shame he's having to play nearly every minute of every game but needs must and all that
I did find it funny when he missed the header unchallenged, don't know why, maybe cos of his size.
It's a shame he's having to play nearly every minute of every game but needs must and all that
Works hard, but really isn't going to be signed at the end of the season, 2 nothing performances against one of the worst defences in the league. Wish Martial could play 1 game a week.
Weghorst has played 4/5 games before Sancho even came back. You need a game changer coming off the bench like Garnacho.
Were playing in 4 competitions. He’s needed, the issue is we didn’t bring in someone better.
Finally, someone noticed and remembered.
Some other people tend to only selectively pick good moment, and forget the rest.
WW really vindicated Moyes comment about Fellaini having one of the chest control. Make it look easy. WW at times looks like bambi on ice trying to control, bring down aerial ball.
Weird player, we wouldn't have scored the opening goal if he stayed upfront as a striker, which is an big issue, our record is of scoring is much better without him leading the line; ETH will need to rethink this. Can't keep playing him, it clearly impairs our attacking player.
Odd very good as a 10. Defended and played some good passes.
Odd very good as a 10. Defended and played some good passes.
People expecting the next version of Van Nistelrooy or Van Persie need to reset expectations. These kind of performances are what we will get with Wout and given Martial is in ICU it is an important role for us. As a cheap emergency loan it is fine and nextnyear we should upgrade on the pair of them. Until then we need him.
I don't think he should be starting every week but we don't give him any service and like every player he's also affected by not having a midfield to play the ball into his feet.
Looked fantastic behind the striker. That looks to be his position. What an option to have.
The issue is WW should have been the sub on player himself. That's his role for a forward deficient Netherland NT.
He's worse 90 minute player even in comparison to non traditional forwards. By your logic, Gakpo, Memphis, Bergwjin should stay on the bench so WW could start and playing a siege tactic for most of the game, so the game changer came on later trying to win it at later stage of the game.
He should only start in dead rubber games, or cup games against much inferior team from lower league. Else as we see, Rashford and Bruno still grinding almost all the minutes the past few games against midtable, relegation fighting teams.
If he was subbed on and played in that Fellaini role like he did today, I had no issue. The issue is people sweeping under the rug all those minutes this game and mid game where he's a hinderance to the team, as if it's nothing.
Some people even keep on with "he didn't get any service". Blind to the fact that, WW positioning, lack of run in behind is the root cause of us failing to build attack. Both games, similar change, and similar outcome (Rashford, header, run in behind).
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Was I felt quite poor until we made that tactical switch and dropped him in behind the striker. He had done good defensive work most of the game but he really started to get involved more and played quite well. Started to win the duels in midfield and caused Leeds issues.
You people really are something else. When he was signed it was a panic signing, then he did well and people wanted him on a permanent contract, then he did as expected and he was the worst thing since the blitz, now he does 20 minutes ok as a 10 and people call him the best thing since sliced bread. Get a grip you lot. He does what he was expected to do. Contribute and sometimes he does and sometimes he doesn't.
Workhorse Wout. Shouldn’t be starting but can have his moments.
I agree he shouldn’t be starting. Just we don’t have players. If Martial and Anthony were available I wouldn’t want to see him. I’m just making a point that the games his played has shown we’ve needed him and his signing was important purely from a numbers point.
Winedine Wegdane.
The forum isn't one collective mind btw
Oh I know and I would hardly see it different to the Ajax one. The absolute meltdowns followed by total bliss in 90 minutes is very supporterlike.
I'm still convinced his disallowed goal came off a leeds player and should have stood but he was decent overall today.
My bet is you don't play football. If you do you'd know it's simply because he's poor at feeling/judging the trajectory of the ball. Same reason why he's pretty bad at scoring headers despite his height. Tbh he reminds me a bit of Lukaku that donkey when it comes to this.
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