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2022-23 Performances

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31
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2
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RedDevil@84 said:
Not that he is good, but its a bit ridiculous we don't punt crosses to him more often. Won't help if he has dropped to Bruno's position during the play.
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Issue is when he's on the pitch, he hindered our tactic leading to our best crossers had less time in good position to cross. And he's not great with his movement either. There is a reason, he's on loan to Turkey to get regularly playing time (to make the World Cup squad, but failed to get starting role), instead of powering through in top leagues even when the competition for Netherland CF position is not that great.

Expecting him to start and perform at the desired level is quite asking for the impossible.
 
Malone_Post said:
This Weghorst nonsense needs to stop too. Play our best attackers and use Wout as a sub if needed.
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AngeloHenriquez said:
Rashford is a better #9 against teams who will attack us, Leeds will sit deep so we need someone like Wout/ Martial who can hold the ball up and recover the ball, we would be better off with Sancho and Rashford wide with Bruno behind Wout
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CassiusClaymore said:
"Weghorst nonsense" aside why would you want to move Rashford out of his best position? :wenger:
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We still sticking to this then? Is he still a better #9 then Rashford? Is it still nonsense? Or we finally going to accept that he’s just not very good?

2 goals in 24 PL appearances tells you everything you need to know. He’s completely out of his depth & we’re a far better team without him in it. Both stylistically and as an attacking threat. Every time he comes off our attack goes up a good few levels. You just can’t play quick attacking football with someone who is so technically lacking.
 
Not his fault but he’s too slow for Bruno’s through balls, which are your main weapon.

You guys should have gone for Aubameyang, but I think that a Garnacho-Rashford-Pellistri frontline could be great
 
maurinho said:
Not his fault but he’s too slow for Bruno’s through balls, which are your main weapon.

You guys should have gone for Aubameyang, but I think that a Garnacho-Rashford-Pellistri frontline could be great
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Weghorst would be fine in some other games, mostly as sub. We don't need Aubameyang.

The issue in this game is that we don't need to start Weghorst, but unfortunately he did. Rashford could lead the line against Leeds, just like we had been doing well with all different type of unorthodox forwards against them: Martial, Rashford, Bruno as false #9, Ronaldo, he who came from Yorkshire... Their tactic dread runners in behind, which we had plenty at our dispose.
 
maurinho said:
You guys should have gone for Aubameyang
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I'm just going to stop you right there. Aubameyang was such a toxic influence in the Arsenal dressing room that Arteta stripped him of the captaincy after disciplinary issues. The club then decided they were better off terminating his contract because he wasn't worth the hassle. Surprise surprise he then flops at Chelsea.

Weghorst clearly has his limitations but I'd rather have a 3/10 striker who works hard than a 4/10 striker who has disciplinary issues.
 
he is a turd

id nearly start Maguire up front instead. It least it would be entertaining
 
He gets no service to be fair but he is definitely starting too many games for us. Would play Rashford up top at the weekend and give Sancho a start.
 
He's about 2 yards off it. For all his hand gestures, he's rarely free. Holds the ball well, but he's not a PL player.
 
It's funny because he's fine enough as an emergency squad player but Martial is always out, Sancho just came back but Antony is out so he still has to start as we don't have enough senior players.
 
Delano said:
He's about 2 yards off it. For all his hand gestures, he's rarely free. Holds the ball well, but he's not a PL player.
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He was wide open in the a garnacho chance. He gets zero service. How do you score if you never get the ball?
 
The service argument is a myth used to defend awful strikers. Good strikers get themselves involved in the game and play and chances will come naturally. If you are static and immobile waiting for the ball to magically be delivered to you, you suck as a striker and your team will definitely suck too.

I find it crazy that people want us to change our play style from being as dynamic as it's like we saw once he left the pitch to return to hoof ball style and lump the ball to him waiting for him to score. I thought we moved on from this?

I knew I sound harsh on him and it's not his fault that he's playing for us but some of the excuses said for him is kinda mental.
 
Signing a player on loan from Burnley was never going to be great
 
AaronRedDevil said:
He was wide open in the a garnacho chance. He gets zero service. How do you score if you never get the ball?
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It's only a debate when you think people expect him to score.

In reality, many people are mostly concerned about the overall play, in which Weghorst obviously hindered us; not that people expect him score bucket load. Rashford is no CF, but it's easily to see how just his presence change the dynamic of how Leeds high line defend, positioning their midfield, easing off their pressing, commiting more foul nearer to their box. All leading us to creating more via free kick, corners, having our better crossers in position to cross, easier to approach their goal via through ball into the channels...
 
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Starting to absolutely hate seeing him in the starting eleven.
 
He's just goddamn pathetic. I have no time for starting a striker who can't even do the basics right.

His best use would be as a substitute in case we need a goal against a tired defense, but that's about it. Starting him is just moronic at this time.
 
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This EtH team isn’t use to an old fashioned CF.

They don’t particular play to his strength, but when he is only a temporary stop gap it doesn’t make sense to change the style drastically to suit him.

Best to just view him as a squad player who can help Rashford’s workload.
 
Wayne's World said:
He's just too slow for a Ten Hag system to be honest,

If you gave a choice between picking who would be our bench striker next season with Martial, I'd pick him but we desperately need to spend big on a striker in the summer
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It's a tough call. I think the answer is probably Martial because we have depth at LW in Sancho and Garnacho and Rashford can be the backup #9, and so if Martial can play well for 25 games you'd probably just about take that over a fit Weghorst being available for twice as many.

Or they both go and we sign a #9 and a young prospect Ten Hag likes who can start on the bench from a non-top league like City did with Alvarez or Villa just did with Duran from the MLS, since those can be signed for 15-20M.
 
He was better today than the last two games, but obviously still wasn't good. He wasn't helped though by Rashford being anonymous on the right and Garnacho looking dangerous but then making the wrong choice every time. He also doesn't seem to combine well with Bruno, as Bruno does tend to constantly look to play the ball in behind which obviously isn't going to be Wout's strength.

After years of being trash up front, Rashford has started looking better in that position over the last few months. Mostly when moving there late in the game it has to be noted, but it is time to start him there and see if his recent improvement continues.
 
Not signing a proper striker with an aerial threat was a bad move. This guy is pathetic. He shouldn't be anywhere near the first XI. Basically another Ighalo but much worse.
 
I like him he works really hard but imo ETH should stop starting the guy. He's clearly not good enough and is a big hindrance for our usual style. We move the ball really fast now but he's always a second or two behind the pace. He should only come in as a sub and start if both Martial and Rashford are unavailable.
 
Erik must be thinking should I have looked at a better loan striker in January,who else could we have got though is the problem
 
He is poor.

But another sympton of Glazer ownership. No funds available for a proper striker and a poor scouting network so we have to get this guy.
 
croadyman said:
Erik must be thinking should I have looked at a better loan striker in January,who else could we have got though is the problem
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Tbf he's probably the best option we could have. Chelsea didn't manage to find a single striker in that window loan or not.

Imo it's still a good loan but he should only play a bench role. Like when we really need a goal and could use some number up front or when the match is somewhat decided and we need to rest our main forwards.
 
Strelok said:
Tbf he's probably the best option we could have. Chelsea didn't manage to find a single striker in that window loan or not.

Imo it's still a good loan but he should only play a bench role. Like when we really need a goal and could use some number up front or when the match is somewhat decided and we need to rest our main forwards.
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Mr weetabix means he starting too many
 
Strelok said:
Yeah that's exactly the problem here.

However I do hope ETH will start Rashford up top next match. With Sancho and probably Antony on the wings.
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Only if Antony recovers from Palace injury,otherwise I could see Sancho RW, Rashford LW and him still down middle unfortunately
 
croadyman said:
Only if Antony recovers from Palace injury,otherwise I could see Sancho RW, Rashford LW and him still down middle unfortunately
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Let's hope Antony would then.

Anyway imo Garnacho - Rashford - Sancho would be better. WW is so off the pace and hinders our attack too much.
 
Strelok said:
Let's hope Antony would then.

Anyway imo Garnacho - Rashford - Sancho would be better. WW is so off the pace and hinders our attack too much.
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Garnacho is looking a bit too eager and rushing things at the moment,he's a talent but needs to be phased in and out.
 
Don't think we will sign him, he is just one extra body in the lineup. If Sancho is fit then Rashford will play as CF.

When he was subbed out we played very well. Same thing happened in cup game too. Not sure if it's because of him getting subbed out or Sancho coming on, but in both games our CF combined well with all the attacking players.
 
croadyman said:
Only if Antony recovers from Palace injury,otherwise I could see Sancho RW, Rashford LW and him still down middle unfortunately
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I hope not. ETH should see that Weghorst is totally out of his depth after this game. Should have enough sample size. The previous games were not one off. It's the same as Fred is never a no6. And despite McTominay being pretty meh himself, McTominay as emergency no6 is distinct better. Just play Rashford up top, even if he's flawed as CF.

Talking about McTominay. I rather experiment him as CF when he gets fit and Rashford needs a rest (can't count on Martial availability with his injury record). On paper, McTominay has all attribute Weghorst possesses, and even some more with his speed, dribbling with pace ability. Just teach him to run channel and it would be much better than Weghorst.

McTominay used to play as attacker in earlier year in the academy, and he has shown that he can strike the ball very well. McTominay's goal earlier this season in EL shows that he can control, and shoot in tight situation too.

That's how bad I think Weghorst is, and has been for us. There is no edge of forward instinct, experience from Weghorst.
 
Was ok for the first 15 minutes, other than that we looked much better after he went off.
 
Starting to look like Erik got this loan striker thing badly wrong,mind you like I said earlier who else could he have got instead
 
I like his attatitude and he obviously works very hard, ultimately he isn't the right fit for this side but I won't say he isn't good enough or call him a turd or say I hate him as there is no need.

Hope he has a good career after this season is done.
 
Marcelinho87 said:
I like his attatitude and he obviously works very hard, ultimately he isn't the right fit for this side but I won't say he isn't good enough or call him a turd or say I hate him as there is no need.

Hope he has a good career after this season is done.
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Yeah he's not being made permanent
 
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