Daslogisch
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feck the DNA. Klopp didn't have Liverpool DNA as well. It's not about that. The problem is, the kind of football Ajax plays, is not the football our current players are able to play. And I am not sure you can coach them into it, any time soon. You would have to sell most of them and buy new ones. Which we have neither money nor time for
Maybe you should make the time. This is where all these so called big clubs go wrong. You can see it with Barcelona as well, all these talks about sacking Koeman not realising he is doing a fantastic job with a mediocre club. So called big clubs who think they are privileged to be on the top. Barcelona now has a mediocre team and needs to realize they need 5 years to rebuild. United has a better team actually the rebuilding has already been started a few years ago on paper. The only problem is, there is no idea behind the rebuilding. Why is United still struggling? Simply because of a lack of patience. United thought they had a privilege to be on the top of the game and therefore have not had the patience to rebuild a team that clearly needed rebuilding. Moyes was a mistake, LvG was great for rebuilding but needed time (fully acknowledge that his football was boring btw, but he was on the right track in terms of rebuilding) and then from LvG's rebuilding work the switch was made to Mourinho's 'immediate success formula'.. which obviously didn't work. And now you're stuck with Ole of which no one knows what his formula is. That's why United is still struggling. There is no vision. Granted United have better players now than in the LvG and beginning of Mourinho's era, but there is no philosophy, no idea, no vision. United are just spending money and expect success will follow by default.
You mentioned Klopp and Liverpool. Klopp does have a philosophy, he developed his team by that philosophy and sought the players needed to execute that. He bought of one the many players considered a PL flop, because in this incredible league thats out of this universe only the most special players can succeed (right?). That same flopped player is now the best player in that league because this coach actually utilizes him like he should. The reason why many players flop in the PL is not because the league is so extraordenary, it's because PL clubs are just spending money without having a plan and think that's going to work. Very few players will succeed in any team, most players will only succeed when they are fitted into a team that suits their qualities. That's why Salah flopped at Chelsea and now owns the PL with Liverpool. Most players these days have specific qualities and they will only flourish when these players get a role in the team that suits those qualities.
United is one of those PL teams who just spend money because they have no philosophy and no patience. Just look at Donny van de Beek. You spent money on him and using him as a replacement for Bruno. Stevie Wonder can see that he does not at all possess the same qualities. Donny will flourish next to Bruno, if you want to get the best out of Donny you have to move Bruno to the wing (or #8) and put Donny on 10. I see many people here saying Donny can play as a #6 of #8 and he did so at Ajax. I can tell you, he can't play there. Yes, he's done so at Ajax a few times and he did reasonably well. But he played much more often as a #10 and that's where he shined. If you're gonna put him on #6 or #8 I can tell you he's always going to be underwhelming. Donny is a #10, but he's not a creative #10, he has never been. He can be creative inside the box, with neat touches, backheals and such, but he won't be dribbling past players or giving through balls all day long. He never did that at Ajax either. But link him up with smart and creative players around him and he's going to be immense, also in the out of this universe PL. But you need to utilize him in the right way. However, United do not understand these concepts. They are just buying more and more players, especially more and more big names and think that's just going to work. It won't. United need to find a board with a philosophy and a manager with a style that supports that philosophy, or else at the very least find a manager with a philosophy and then have a board who will stick with that manager and his philosophy for a long period and give that manager the tools that he needs to build a team. Building something good takes time. How much time and bad result did SAF need to turn United into a world class team?
As for Ten Hag, hopefully you will stay away from him, but he would be a great manager for United - if given time. His communication to the press is quite weak, but clearly communicating with the team is not a problem for him. He's done a fantastic job at Ajax, as well as at FC Utrecht and Go Ahead Eagles (with which he promoted after they were really struggling in the years before). His teams execute his plans very well.
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