The situation with Mourinho is entirely different. Mourinho was backed, more than enough. His transfers were just bad on average. Furthermore, he was having an absolute meltdown, bickering with players, laying on them in the press, etc. Conte is not that type of character. If he disagrees with the board, he'll air his concerns about "not being backed", but he won't go against the club or against his players... ever. When he left Juve and Inter it wasn't like he lost his mind, he simply said he wasn't backed enough and couldn't get Juve (or Inter) to take next level, so he left. Totally different characters.
Would you take Conte at United?
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People who compare conte with mou are being extremely lazy. Conte is a winner and proven, would be a massive improvement.
Fair. But it seems like the club sees him as a troublemaker or as described, 'combative'
Conte didn't threw tantrums when he didn't get what he wanted and he never tried to be sacked either. At Juventus, Juventus were penny pinching while demanding Conte to take Juventus back to CL glory after doing a remarkable job on a relatively low budget, at Chelsea we know that he didn't get some of the players he wanted and the club forced players on him, Conte was unhappy but did his job, I don't even think that he complained when Chelsea were struggling with getting Sarri and Conte had to take care of preseason even though he knew that the club was replacing him. At Inter he left because the owners have money problem, they asked him to cut his wage and sold key players.
The only thing that you can say about him is that he speaks his mind but he has never sabotaged his teams and has never been out of control outside of the sidelines unlike Mourinho who creates havoc when things are bad, to a point where he is sacked during the season.
Of course the club sees him as a "troublemaker". He'd probably dismantle the Mates FC that's been going on for the past few years, starting with Carrick and McKenna. And that won't be a bad thing for us fans.
The money stuff sounds like bullshit but I can imagine the board don't want a firebrand manager who will be vocal about their feckery.
The source is Ian Whittel who used to work at The Times and is a former colleague of Daniel Taylor. So the journo in question is reputable.
This is what needs to be done, otherwise we are no different than 90-00s Liverpool which we used to laugh at for that very reason.
Depressing
I’ll be genuinely gutted if we’re hesitating on hiring Conte because we think we can get Brendan fecking Rodgers.
Oh well... Who else is out there? fecking Rodgers right? Jesus... Better than Ole no doubt but I'm really no fan
I was genuinely gutted when we appointed Moyes ahead of my favourite at the time Klopp. I honestly couldn't care less about Conte who IMO isn't on the same level as Guardiola and Klopp who implement a brand of football which for me is superior to Conte's.
I can't even begin to describe how aggravating that would be. Bad enough to be in a bad position but then to watch the club commit to a few years of Rogers on top of that.....
All the memes that got posted on here back when he was in charge at pool...for him to then rock up at Carrington
If we're passing on Conte to get in Ten Hag, I'm fine with that.
If we're passing on Conte to get in Rodgers, we are more doomed than we already are.
If we're passing on Conte to get in Rodgers, we are more doomed than we already are.
The thing with Conte is that we will go from the worst coached team in the league to among the best ones in a few weeks.
To get a bottler like Rodgers would be tragic.
To get a bottler like Rodgers would be tragic.
You’d also think Rodgers will cost a fair whack to steal away from Leicester. Conte is available right now for nothing.
Don't think it's more expensive to hire Conte, who is without club, than Rodgers or ten Hag, even if their wages would be smaller than Conte's.
His league record is impressive. 5 titles out of 7 seasons with Juve, Chelsea and Inter. First season with Inter finished 2nd behind Juventus which wasn't a failure either. His only unsuccessful season was 2nd one with Chelsea, 2017/18 one where they finished 5th with 70 points, but still won the Fa Cup. Many points won in most of his league campaigns as a manager. I wouldn't expect much success with him in Champions League but he'd be here short term anyways. There's his time with Italy too which was a success as well.
Conte has his flaws, but there's no one better than him available. Hope those reports of club ruling him out are false.
His league record is impressive. 5 titles out of 7 seasons with Juve, Chelsea and Inter. First season with Inter finished 2nd behind Juventus which wasn't a failure either. His only unsuccessful season was 2nd one with Chelsea, 2017/18 one where they finished 5th with 70 points, but still won the Fa Cup. Many points won in most of his league campaigns as a manager. I wouldn't expect much success with him in Champions League but he'd be here short term anyways. There's his time with Italy too which was a success as well.
Conte has his flaws, but there's no one better than him available. Hope those reports of club ruling him out are false.
First time post-Fergie we've had the opportunity to get a truly elite coach at the top of his game and we're making all the excuses under the sun to not hire him. Getting Conte to replace Ole might be the biggest managerial upgrade in the history of the sport - it's literally going from one of the very worst to one of the very best.
I like the idea of Conte but know it will be troublesome and short term.
Rodgers is tarnished from his past…..don’t think that that could ever be overcome.
Pochettino was always a firm favourite of mine but that ship looks like it’s sailed
Graham Potter I really like but he would be treated like Moyes was so would be on a hiding to nothing and just told he’s never won anything.
After that once you go overseas for non Prem experience I think it becomes short term and difficult……
Therefore you can see why just firing Ole isn’t straightforward……however, he needs a result big time Saturday and also against City.
He needs to be stronger, firmer and more creative in his selections - there are too many certs with his selection…..he’s very predictable and he clearly hasn’t got the right formula yet…..
I think the Ronaldo signing in hindsight is a massive hinderance to the teams development….
Fingers crossed we get an Arsenal style change of fortune!!
Rodgers is tarnished from his past…..don’t think that that could ever be overcome.
Pochettino was always a firm favourite of mine but that ship looks like it’s sailed
Graham Potter I really like but he would be treated like Moyes was so would be on a hiding to nothing and just told he’s never won anything.
After that once you go overseas for non Prem experience I think it becomes short term and difficult……
Therefore you can see why just firing Ole isn’t straightforward……however, he needs a result big time Saturday and also against City.
He needs to be stronger, firmer and more creative in his selections - there are too many certs with his selection…..he’s very predictable and he clearly hasn’t got the right formula yet…..
I think the Ronaldo signing in hindsight is a massive hinderance to the teams development….
Fingers crossed we get an Arsenal style change of fortune!!
Feck it. At the very least he seems really good at pulling teams together and strengthening their mentality, which seems the opposite of Jose.
It couldn't be more straightforward. You have one of the best managers available and wants the job. You dither for no reason and expect a miracle to happen. Better run clubs would have already appointed Conte while we still wonder how Ole could turn it around.
I really hope our uncertainty doesn't make him feel like he is not wanted.
The club doesn't want him because he's not a yes man.
I think he would be perfect for us
I think he would be perfect for us
If we had brought him in before the spurs game I would have genuinely believed we could still win the title
I'm in the Ten Hag camp, but this is such a shame. I'd take Conte over Rodgers or Poch any day of the week.
If this is remotely true and that Rodgers is our No. 1 because he is British, than really dark days lay ahead.
That’s because there isn’t anyone on the level of Pep and Klopp unfortunately. But Conte could definitely give them a run for their money.
No one is questioning his offences for match fixing ???
Because he was cleared of any wrong doing. He had nothing to do with match fixing. The reasoning behind the charges was in itself ludicrous.
Don’t be so naive for goodness sake. How’s about wanting a slice of the transfer fees at Chelsea?
He knew exactly what was going on and admitted it. He plea bargained his way out of the ultra corrupt court
That is bordering severe mental health issues if it's true.
What do you mean "don't be naive"?
An Italian court went through the evidence and cleared him of any wrong doings.
Have you found evidence to the contrary? Carried out a more thorough investigation?
Please, share your findings. It seems the Italians missed out on the Internet Judge here.
No idea what your "slice of the transfer fees at Chelsea" is all about. An actual credible source, please?
So what happens then if Ole loses the next 3 games on the trot and they're essentially forced to sack him? Do they go back to Conte - who by then has possibly run out of patience and feeling somewhat offended, and offer him a blank cheque to sign on the dotted line? Or do they pull out all the stops to bring in Brendan feckin Rodgers. Because if it isn't Conte, it's not going to be Ten Hag, thats for sure.
He admitted he knew it was going on. That’s utterly disgraceful involved or not, is it not?
Italy is arguably the most corrupt country in Europe. I would trust their judicial system about as much as I trust fan opinion on this site.
do your own research on the transfer fees at Chelsea.
No. All moralities apparently go out of the window when it comes to looking at a new manager. The board are disgrace for not overlooking the multiple red flags that come with appointing such a character.
You're chatting absolute nonsense. Bizarre.
He didn't admit a single thing.
And if you're going to make an allegation about him with shady transfers at Chelsea, at least provide a credible source rather than spouting unsubstantiated nonsense.
That never happened. The judge dismissed the case. And he was offered repeated plea bargains too which he rejected.
Apart from Carobbio, not a single other Siena player said Conte fixed the match or was aware of any fixing. Not a single one.
The FIGC, who headed their own investigation, hired him for heaven's sake.
Let's get this right, there were 25 folk in the dressing room (and 40 detailed accounts were taken) and not a single one of those 40 said Conte match fixed or was aware of any match fixing other than one player and one player only, the actual match fixer.
Hmm, match fixer's words, who stood to have his punishment REDUCED if he pointed out other names, vs 40 folk with clean records.
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Give it Conte til end of the seasono
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