Would you sack or keep Ole? (Poll reopened)

[MisterLupus]

4 managers in 6 years and it should continue until we get the right one. Look how many managers Chelsea and Liverpool went through in 6 years. Once they realized the manager was shit, they moved onto the next guy. That’s how Liverpool ended up with Klopp instead of persisting with someone like Dalglish. Do you think they care they had to go on a merry go round to get where they’re at now? Jury is still out on Chelsea but it’s looking like Lampard is getting his team playing cohesively.

I haven't concluded that Ole is shit yet though I guess that's the difference - I've only concluded that our offense is shit and our squad (with the exception of eight players) is stripped of top-tier quality overall - but I already knew that coming into this season. That transfer window only got it half right - I believe most people in here agreed on this which is why I'm a bit baffled as to why everyone's so surprised all of a sudden. We knew we'd struggle both in terms of creating and scoring goals - that Lukaku needed replacing and that Lingard / Mata / Pereira aren't up for it. We predicted it - and knew we'd get punished due to it unless someone was brought in (which they weren't).

I am starting to think Ole might be too gullible and naive to be a proper leader though - that he's invested too much faith into the quality of his squad when clearly we're only good at defending and keeping the ball (both important aspects that's improved a lot since he took charge but also two qualities that are utterly wasted as long as we stay impotent in terms of scoring). But it's speculative at best - I don't know who's to blame for us not reinforcing our offensive setup nor what takes place inside his head or behind closed doors - and personally I've already defined what I'd find acceptable and what would cause me to lose faith in the project and I'm sticking to it.

Top six this season with a proper challenge for the top-four - then solidified top-four next season. I'm awaiting to see what happens in January - and I do mean January not "closer to February" as by then it'll be too late already. Whomever we go for up front needs to be ready first week of January or else they've failed this team and it's supporters once more - this should have been done this summer already so if they keep stalling then feck them all. This whole "we need the perfect candidate" is an excuse I never bought into - even if perfection isn't available anything is better than that utter defect of an offense we're seeing right now. I'm pretty sure we'd improve even with Ole himself stepping onto the field.

I learned one thing from the Newcastle game though - Lee Dixon can be hilarious as a commentator - listening to him and Tyldesley ridiculing our decisions in the final third was definitely more fun than watching the game

 

[b82REZ]

I would agree that if Poch was available it would be prudent to swap over, but in defense of Ole he has to come out and make positive noises the last manager was hung out to dry because he publicly denounced the team and the club. Besides Ole has said that it is a project not a quick fix, he openly said we were looking for more players but this turned to happy with the squad when the deadline came around, you cannot expect him to come out and lambast Woodward for being the feckwitt that he obviously is, or to say this squad is well below standard, we are going to be lucky to finish top half even if that is what he believes.

He's still to blame for sanctioning those transfers without having the squad to deal with it.

If he felt there was no players that suited his profile he needed to get the most of what he had. Ole marganilised Lukaku, whether that was due to the players attitude, Ole's hubris or likely a combination of both. Lukaku would provide us a much more consistent goal threat, as well as an alternative tactic in breaking teams down. We are not City or Barca so Ole shouldn't have assumed Rashford and Martial would be able to fill the void. Teams know all they have to do is defend deep and compact and they completely nullify the threat of our strikers.

Supporters are so hard to please, they don't want a manager who will call out Woodward (Jose), but also don't want a yes man (Ole). Its important we do not confuse the two issues at hand here. Woodward is ruining the club from the boardroom, but Ole is ruining it from the dressing room. It seems like a lot of people are going one side or the other. We can want Ole out while also recognising the mess Woodward is creating.

 

[Bristol_Red_87]

Keep, until this time next year at least.

I feel for Ole. He's come in, had a look at where we were arguably weakest (in defence) and with one transfer window, has improved this area of the team immeasurably.

However, we have had, with an already bare squad, and since Spring this year, untold injuries for which has scuppered forward progression of the side. The injuries is a separate debate but this is of course HUGE cause for concern. Can Ole and his coaching team's training routines be blamed? Maybe, but we can only speculate..

The players left at his disposal look either not up to it ability wise, not up for the fight or simply shot to pieces confidence wise or of course, a combination of all three!

We will buy in January, and we will pay wildly over the odds as is always the case, both when buying in January and buying with Ed as chief negotiator. However i hope Ole sticks to his guns and looks to bring in a mix of youth with some experience to bolster the midfield and attack. The experience needs to come at the sharp end.

Once we have these players on board, i hope to see a style develop come the Spring, as my greatest criticism of Ole is we lack an identity and the players look clueless.

This points to bad coaching, but our lack of identity is no different to last season, we've just lost someone to put the ball in the net.

Get some bodies in, look for signs of life..

 

[Solius]

I don’t get the people saying you can’t keep sacking managers. If there was literally any indication of progress then sure I’d agree but we’re going backwards.

I cannot see any coaching in this side at all. We play the exact same way every game and the exact same thing happens shock horror. Mindless passing across the face of the box and then a ball put in to a static striker. It’s atrocious.

Some of the players are shite yes but could the manager be getting more out of them in a system that suits the players? Absolutely.

I love Ole but he has to go.

 

[Hawks2008]

I loved that bolded part. This year we went in full emotional mode as a club. Players who really really really want to be here? Give me a fecking break. Players from Brasil play in fecking Shakhtar or CSKA and "dying" from cold weather. Do they want to be there? No, they would rather play in Spain i guess but they are payed for playing football. Player is payed to play football. Period.
Since we hired Ole there are all these emotions and cliches about love, identity, Fergie's parking spot etc...we must stop with that nonsense.
Fans are part of football who can be and must be emotional. Club hierarchy must run club based on common sense

This × infinity

 

[Alabaster Codify7]

You’re talking about things you hope would happen if Ole was sacked. Funny they are all negative but we should support the club like you.

He's also forgetting a really important thing.

Ole is a shit manager. That's very, very important.

 

[edcunited1878]

I think he will be granted a better transfer kitty than Solskjaer by Woodward. More proven in the PL and we'll probably be at the end of a tragic season and there will be more panic than usual. Both LvG and Mourinho were given more funds than Moyes and Solskjaer, maybe because Ed was less hesitant to trust them (LvG spent equally to City after his 4th spot and Mourinho was afforded his four specialists right from the get-go). Plus, unless something miraculous on the pitch or a major global catastrophe occurs, come next May there will be no burying our heads in the sand anymore and no grand illusions regarding the state of the squad. The new manager will demand players, the fans will be fully on his side and Woodward will have to act.

It's not just one or two transfer windows. That's what has gotten United into this trouble to begin with. I'm okay with two, clear signings for starting XI purposes like Maguire and AWB. But it's the smaller deals for depth or fringe starting players where it matters too. For example, Ryan Fraser from Bournemouth should be a priority signing for United.

LVG had a large hole to fill in terms of squad turnover and quality that replaced Fergie's last championship team. Moyes was a total failure because he didn't have the guts or ruthlessness to cut off the old guard and replace them adequately. LVG did it his way, but it was cut short and had zero vision or continuity once Jose was hired. I still remain that Jose should have been the manager immediately after Fergie and that handshake after the unjust lost to Real at OT second leg in the CL was my last hope of Jose coming to United at the right time.

 

[christinaa]

It's useless sacking another manager.
The Glazers and that idiot Woodward have to back any manager we have but they haven't done that.
Who knows what would have happened if they bought Maguire when Mourinho wanted him??

 

[TheRedDevil'sAdvocate]

It's not just one or two transfer windows. That's what has gotten United into this trouble to begin with. I'm okay with two, clear signings for starting XI purposes like Maguire and AWB. But it's the smaller deals for depth or fringe starting players where it matters too. For example, Ryan Fraser from Bournemouth should be a priority signing for United.

LVG had a large hole to fill in terms of squad turnover and quality that replaced Fergie's last championship team. Moyes was a total failure because he didn't have the guts or ruthlessness to cut off the old guard and replace them adequately. LVG did it his way, but it was cut short and had zero vision or continuity once Jose was hired. I still remain that Jose should have been the manager immediately after Fergie and that handshake after the unjust lost to Real at OT second leg in the CL was my last hope of Jose coming to United at the right time.

I agree with that. The last sentence is bang on too, we missed an opportunity there. At the start of 2013/14 United were the Champions of England and Mourinho was the top coach in the league. No Pep, no Klopp yet. He would treat RvP, Carrick and Evra better and he would have added a couple of key players but also some more peripheral ones who would do a job. And he almost won the title that year with an ageing Drogba and Ba leading the line.

 

[Duncan the Great]

I think the majority of us were happy at Ole being brought in as a stop gap after Jose, and were somewhat surprised at the success that immediately followed. I am also sure the more grounded of us were equally surprised when he was given the permanent position with a 2 year contract, as regardless of results he just didn't have anywhere near the experience or track record for the post. Love him to bits as a club legend and as a really good guy but that's as far as it goes, he is way out of his depth and it is unfair to all concerned including himself to prolong the inevitable, he must go now.
Regardless of the Glazier's, their puppet Woodentop and the present state of the team there are some experienced managers/coaches with the right football philosophy who would jump at the chance to come to United and surely or should I say hopefully a short list is already in place.
Only the league position can get worse, performances definitely can't !!!!!!!!

 

[LJJT]

Makes me laugh people saying the players aren’t being coached properly. The players aren’t good enough. No manager will make them good enough. At a throw in for example, do we honestly think the players are being “coached” to shy away from receiving the ball? Reluctantly accepting the ball? Miss controlling the ball? Then not even able to pass it back to the player throwing it in? It’s laughable. The squad is crap and now we’ve got injuries we are being found out.

 

[Womp]

Bloody hell that's good point, all three past managers are unemployed!

Marco Rose could be perfect and seeing as though Gladbach aren't in he champions league we could probably get him now if we paid the fee's.

Rose won't leave half way into his first season. We had our chance to try and sign him, instead we signed Ole permanently.

 

[Judas]

Makes me laugh people saying the players aren’t being coached properly. The players aren’t good enough. No manager will make them good enough. At a throw in for example, do we honestly think the players are being “coached” to shy away from receiving the ball? Reluctantly accepting the ball? Miss controlling the ball? Then not even able to pass it back to the player throwing it in? It’s laughable. The squad is crap and now we’ve got injuries we are being found out.

that logic only makes sense if these players have always looked this useless, which isn’t true.

 

[joseph_p]

It's useless sacking another manager.
The Glazers and that idiot Woodward have to back any manager we have but they haven't done that.
Who knows what would have happened if they bought Maguire when Mourinho wanted him??

Is it though? All we can say for sure is that the current management is content with top 4 or 5 going by the past few season otherwise we'd see decisive moves to bring us to the top. Even if we agree that some of the moves this transfer window were the step in the right direction it came from Ole and not the management.

If Ole doesn't deliver any results and going by our form he won't, there will be no funds to spend. If u think lack of funds is a joke just look at our net spend this summer. And on top go check the club's debt plus the stock movement just this very week. The shares went from around 18$ to 16$ and it's not the end. That's a loss of around 300 million $ in last week in market cap. They were around 20$ around May last year and it's a very good indicator of how investors see us.
Plus the abysmal atmosphere we have at the club lead by poor coaching. I mean, no system of play + ancient relics like Matic and Mata and Young playing week in and out. And Ole's assuring us it the very best of Man Utd when just the pre season points that academy player would do and did better.

 

[Womp]

Makes me laugh people saying the players aren’t being coached properly. The players aren’t good enough. No manager will make them good enough. At a throw in for example, do we honestly think the players are being “coached” to shy away from receiving the ball? Reluctantly accepting the ball? Miss controlling the ball? Then not even able to pass it back to the player throwing it in? It’s laughable. The squad is crap and now we’ve got injuries we are being found out.

The players may not be good enough, that doesn't excuse the fact that we have no pattern of play at all to our game. The whole squad has regressed, except maybe Mctominay.

You don't need great players to play decent stuff. Look at Norwich, Brighton, Leicester and Villa at times. Even teams like Borussia Monchengladbach etc. if we are going foreign. This idea that the players are the reason for shite football is wrong. Great players are required to win things, a great coach is required to get players playing good stuff.

Liverpool when Klopp first arrived had a damning team and weren't good enough in regards to personnel to win, that being said - he still had them playing good stuff and the evolution or for lack of better word - progression, was clear to see. You don't see any of that with Ole.

 

[Abhinav]

While it is increasingly hard to watch us every week, we should give Ole a few weeks to turn it around. Lets see how we do once we have players back from injury. If we still can’t put points on the board and are near relegation , with much pain, Ole would have to go.

Having said that, I think this situation is not of Ole’s making and he is just bearing the brunt of the pathetic decisions taken by Ed Woodward and the board.

 

[morbidsaint]

I sure hope Giggs never takes a job here if offered. I don't wish "our" fan base on anyone. Jesus christ.

At least Ole was smart enough to shut down his Twitter. That way he can live under his delusion that he is serving the "best fans in the world" a little while longer. At least intill a plane starts flying over Old Trafford saying "Sack Ole".

 

[reddevil80]

Of course the manager is partly responsible, but I genuinely think the majority of the blame is on the board. The Glazers don't care and Woodward has no clue. They are leaving United to stagnate; there is no vision. Ole has been hung out to dry.

no no no no no! The majority HAS to be on the manager.

The team doesn't resemble a team who know which direction they need to go, that is down to terrible coaching. Vision?, you can't just blame the board or even seriously try to defend OGS as his vision is absolutely woeful. He seems to be saying " OK, get into the box before trying to shoot and also make sure there is no-one in front of you for at least 5 yards before you shoot. Also, Rashy, don't run into the channels and make the ball do the work as your midfield cannot pass the ball into space, they are incompetent so you must always face the player with the ball and wait for it; In fact, every player without the ball must do the same"

Yeah, the Vampires known as the Glazers are completely clueless and so is that muppet Woodward but they do not coach or train the boys and they don't pick the team or the tactics, that is ALL Solskjaer.

If Ole is being hung out to dry as you put it, why doesn't he fight back? He loves the club, is a legend at the club and will be forever adored for his contributions ( as a player ) but his managerial record is absolutely atrocious and our football is exactly the same, week in, week out. That is not being hung out, that is ALL him. If Ole has anything about him, with his love for the club, he must step back and look at the results, the way the games have been played and accept he is not a worthy manager and bow out before fans forget his fruitful endeavours and turn against him. This is going to turn incredibly sour if he doesn't do something very, very quickly.

 

[manunited1919]

Exactly why it would be a massive statement . You are right , it probably won`t happen because of the money but he is in a position to make a huge statement .

You want Ole to walk away from a multi-million dollar payoff just because he loves the club? Would you do that to your family to make a statement? And who will hire Ole after this stint at MUFC?

 

[LJJT]

that logic only makes sense if these players have always looked this useless, which isn’t true.

Really? Sorry I can’t agree. Fred, young, Rashford, mata, Dalot all been poor for at least 6 months. 12 - 18 months if you exclude Rashford. We can’t beat any one of half the team consists of these 5 no matter who’s in charge or what they are “coached”

Sorry add in Andreas that’s 6 players who would struggle to get in Watford’s side

 

[Champagne Football]

Ole needs to be given 1 more transfer window to get things right.

If Pochettino becomes available and Ole keeps losing, then that's a no-brainer.

But I have a feeling Ole can turn it around if he can get some real quality in this January. Moussa Dembele and John McGinn would make a big difference.

 

[LJJT]

The players may not be good enough, that doesn't excuse the fact that we have no pattern of play at all to our game. The whole squad has regressed, except maybe Mctominay.

You don't need great players to play decent stuff. Look at Norwich, Brighton, Leicester and Villa at times. Even teams like Borussia Monchengladbach etc. if we are going foreign. This idea that the players are the reason for shite football is wrong. Great players are required to win things, a great coach is required to get players playing good stuff.

Liverpool when Klopp first arrived had a damning team and weren't good enough in regards to personnel to win, that being said - he still had them playing good stuff and the evolution or for lack of better word - progression, was clear to see. You don't see any of that with Ole.

Pattern of play is another term that everyone is expert in lately. What patterns of play exactly can we formulate with the likes of Fred, Andreas, Young, Dalot in the side? Fred can’t pass a parcel. If we had a full strength squad and we where in this position I’d be inclined to say it’s not working out but if the squads piss poor even Pep would struggle. As an example, Pep’s city are in disarray with a couple of injuries to key players and lack of backing in the latest window. Players win games, not managers.

 

[Judas]

Really? Sorry I can’t agree. Fred, young, Rashford, mata, Dalot all been poor for at least 6 months. 12 - 18 months if you exclude Rashford. We can’t beat any one of half the team consists of these 5 no matter who’s in charge or what they are “coached”

Sorry add in Andreas that’s 6 players who would struggle to get in Watford’s side

obviously some of them are just shite, I’m not disputing that, I’d bin over half the squad tomorrow if it was possible.

 

[LJJT]

obviously some of them are just shite, I’m not disputing that, I’d bin over half the squad tomorrow if it was possible.

Me too mate and I’m not arguing with you personally but I really just think we all need to be realistic here and understand over half that starting 11 are not fit to be any where near the squad sadly, let alone start. Ole didn’t buy any of them and I know people will criticise him removing certain players and not replacing but I’m pretty sure he will have wanted more players in during summer no matter what he says in public. Can’t even criticise his team selection yesterday cos no matter who he picked half the team would be no where near good enough

 

[Greck]

Me too mate and I’m not arguing with you personally but I really just think we all need to be realistic here and understand over half that starting 11 are not fit to be any where near the squad sadly, let alone start. Ole didn’t buy any of them and I know people will criticise him removing certain players and not replacing but I’m pretty sure he will have wanted more players in during summer no matter what he says in public. Can’t even criticise his team selection yesterday cos no matter who he picked half the team would be no where near good enough

Not good enough to play Astana, Rochdale, Newcastle and Alkmaar?

 

[LJJT]

Not good enough to play Astana, Rochdale, Newcastle and Alkmaar?

Not looking like it is it really. If they where they’d have beaten them easily. Sorry but no matter what the tactics coaching or formation or whatever if our 11 are better than there 11 if they apply the same levels of effort the better players team wins hands down. The players I mentioned would struggle to get in the Newcastle or AZ sides.

 

[Florida Man]

I haven't concluded that Ole is shit yet though I guess that's the difference - I've only concluded that our offense is shit and our squad (with the exception of eight players) is stripped of top-tier quality overall - but I already knew that coming into this season. That transfer window only got it half right - I believe most people in here agreed on this which is why I'm a bit baffled as to why everyone's so surprised all of a sudden. We knew we'd struggle both in terms of creating and scoring goals - that Lukaku needed replacing and that Lingard / Mata / Pereira aren't up for it. We predicted it - and knew we'd get punished due to it unless someone was brought in (which they weren't).

I am starting to think Ole might be too gullible and naive to be a proper leader though - that he's invested too much faith into the quality of his squad when clearly we're only good at defending and keeping the ball (both important aspects that's improved a lot since he took charge but also two qualities that are utterly wasted as long as we stay impotent in terms of scoring). But it's speculative at best - I don't know who's to blame for us not reinforcing our offensive setup nor what takes place inside his head or behind closed doors - and personally I've already defined what I'd find acceptable and what would cause me to lose faith in the project and I'm sticking to it.

Top six this season with a proper challenge for the top-four - then solidified top-four next season. I'm awaiting to see what happens in January - and I do mean January not "closer to February" as by then it'll be too late already. Whomever we go for up front needs to be ready first week of January or else they've failed this team and it's supporters once more - this should have been done this summer already so if they keep stalling then feck them all. This whole "we need the perfect candidate" is an excuse I never bought into - even if perfection isn't available anything is better than that utter defect of an offense we're seeing right now. I'm pretty sure we'd improve even with Ole himself stepping onto the field.

I learned one thing from the Newcastle game though - Lee Dixon can be hilarious as a commentator - listening to him and Tyldesley ridiculing our decisions in the final third was definitely more fun than watching the game

I mean it’s one thing to be struggling and placing 5th or 6th in the table. Most of us could at least tolerate that. But we’re on relegation form and in 12th. Even the most pessimistic fans at the end of summer couldn’t see this coming. Otherwise, I pretty much agree with the rest of your post

 

[SAFMUTD]

Makes me laugh people saying the players aren’t being coached properly. The players aren’t good enough. No manager will make them good enough. At a throw in for example, do we honestly think the players are being “coached” to shy away from receiving the ball? Reluctantly accepting the ball? Miss controlling the ball? Then not even able to pass it back to the player throwing it in? It’s laughable. The squad is crap and now we’ve got injuries we are being found out.

You cant seriously believe that the squad is playing at their full potential. Its clear the squad its not good enough to challenge for titles, but for sure we should be playing better football and be closer to the top 4 than relegation.

 

[ash_86]

Not looking like it is it really. If they where they’d have beaten them easily. Sorry but no matter what the tactics coaching or formation or whatever if our 11 are better than there 11 if they apply the same levels of effort the better players team wins hands down. The players I mentioned would struggle to get in the Newcastle or AZ sides.

This is quite true and damming.

 

[OleBoiii]

In just a matter of hours the poll went from 55% keep to nearly 55% sack. Knee-jerk reaction much?

 

[Nevilles.Wear.Prada]

ANOTHER QUESTION FOR PEOPLE VOTING "SACK"

If we get Pogba, AWB, Martial & Shaw back and we put in an amazing performance v Liverpool and beat them 3-0...

Would you change your vote to "KEEP"?

Nope. Because the decision isn't based on isolated single games here. The team is clearly lesser than the sum of individual parts. As a manager is his job to get them together and at least manage to get shots away even against the mights of alkzars and Newcastle of the world. Most professional clubs in Europe can manage at least that surely? Granted lingard and matic are horrible players but you gotta play the cards your dealt with, and i expect a united manager should be able to pull us thru times like this. Just looking at him in the touchline hardly inspiring, the man looks broken. Of course, he can't go full jose and send them under the bus but his routine "every one is working hard", "we couldn't get the right player in" actually sounds very shady and stupid at this point. His persistence of sticking to his favorites despite form will be his undoing. None of the style he trying to implement can be seen, and no way they just gonna creep up in the next few games. The players he let go wasn't adequately replaced, maybe not entirely his fault but being professional manager he should have guessed the 1990s counter attacking system comes with high injury lists. Should have anticipated that when he let go so many players in the summer.
Bringing in youth when we at the worst crisis in decades isn't developing youth anymore. Its destroying their confidence, its like them facing a really hard U23 game. Nothing will grow in negative atmosphere and with so much pressure.
I knew he completely lost the dressing room when forwards are reluctantly hiding behind opposition defense to avoid risking missing decent chances.
Feck glazers and feck edward for twisting a club legend nearing to the point of nausea.
Rant over.

 

[Greck]

Not looking like it is it really. If they where they’d have beaten them easily. Sorry but no matter what the tactics coaching or formation or whatever if our 11 are better than there 11 if they apply the same levels of effort the better players team wins hands down. The players I mentioned would struggle to get in the Newcastle or AZ sides.

Those teams would swap their players for ours but not their managers. The inferiority between the teams sits in the dugout

 

[LJJT]

You cant seriously believe that the squad is playing at their full potential. Its clear the squad its not good enough to challenge for titles, but for sure we should be playing better football and be closer to the top 4 than relegation.

I agree they are not but it can be down to lack of confidence now as much as poor coaching. There’s a million and one factors. If you where pogba and lining up with young, Fred, pereira, mata, Dalot I don’t think you’d approach the game at 100% bouncing in to the game you’d be thinking please god help me playing 90 mins with this bag of shite who can’t even pass forward 5 yards

 

[LJJT]

Those teams would swap their players for ours but not their managers. The inferiority between the teams sits in the dugout

I’m not sure they would at all. They’d want a few of our players but not half of them. They are crap mate we couldnt lay a glove on Newcastle or AZ.

 

[SAFMUTD]

I agree they are not but it can be down to lack of confidence now as much as poor coaching. There’s a million and one factors. If you where pogba and lining up with young, Fred, pereira, mata, Dalot I don’t think you’d approach the game at 100% bouncing in to the game you’d be thinking please god help me playing 90 mins with this bag of shite who can’t even pass forward 5 yards

If its lack of confidence then its a manager problem as well, anyway Ole is failing bladly. Either for his tactics (if they exist at all) or his man managment.

 

[Eddy_JukeZ]

I fail to believe any sane person could still want him going forward.

The season could get much worse too.

We are in relegation form under OGS.

It wasn't even that bad under Moyes.

He's a terrible manager. Clueless in all aspects.

 

[Greck]

I’m not sure they would at all. They’d want a few of our players but not half of them. They are crap mate we couldnt lay a glove on Newcastle or AZ.

Let me get this straight. You're saying Alkmaar, Astana and Rochdale have squads on par with ours?

 

[LJJT]

Let me get this straight. You're saying Alkmaar, Astana and Rochdale have squads on par with ours?

No I didn’t say that. I said a group of players we have, which are featuring a lot lately would struggle to get in Newcastle or Alkmaars team.

 

[Shark]

I’m not sure they would at all. They’d want a few of our players but not half of them. They are crap mate we couldnt lay a glove on Newcastle or AZ.

Which proves we’ve a manager that doesn’t have a notion what he’s doing, more then literally anything else.

 

[Andycoleno9]

Wow, he still has support from Ed( based on the fact that he is not sacked). Our worst manager ever who doesn't have any credentials for this job and has awful results, has this much faith from our owners. I am in shock. I was 100% sure that he will be fired after Newcastle loss