There is a CHANCE that a manager who beats City and Chelsea 3 times in a season isn't as shit as some thought ?
Would you sack or keep Ole? (Poll reopened)
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There is a CHANCE that a manager who beats City and Chelsea 3 times in a season isn't as shit as some thought ?
Yep.
Some people and their mental gymnastic to give no credits to the improvement and signings Ole have made 
Sack Ole. He took six points from City and now Liverpool get at least the moral victory in the league. Six more points for City and it would have been less clear cut.
Yeah - according to some they were so obvious purchases that he didn't deserve any credit for signing them. It was the classic "anyone could have it" - even if only he did!
Some people and their mental gymnastic to give no credits to the improvement and signings Ole have made
It’s like the mental gymnastics those people had to go through when been told to give him time he’s building something. Watching us get banged 2-0 against Burnley.
So I wouldn’t get to confused.
If there is a season next year, Ole is the man for me. We are finally going in the right direction and another season in charge means the club will be in better shape for the right manager to take over. You put the wrong man in charge too soon and it all falls to shit again. I never believed Ole waa the right man long term, but I believe he could be the right man for right now.
Our recruitment has been too slow, but the five of them seem to be finding their feet. We still need to shift a few more deadwood, but this is the best the squad has looked in a while. We are starting to have competition for places and everyone is playing with confidence.
Our recruitment has been too slow, but the five of them seem to be finding their feet. We still need to shift a few more deadwood, but this is the best the squad has looked in a while. We are starting to have competition for places and everyone is playing with confidence.
Nice article. Skip the first part but I really like how Ole stands up for what he thinks. Not saying he is correct but very dignified response...
Read more: https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/13/man-...tbxweToB7ACOn-5Z7drxxlOXX0PW0yXlU?ito=cbshare
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Some on here should sign up for the church, given how good they seem to be at giving sermons and grandstanding.
Unfortunately, the season's come to an abrupt pause but let's see where he is at the end before giving a final verdict. Although that's probably a bit too negative for the church of optimism on here.
Unfortunately, the season's come to an abrupt pause but let's see where he is at the end before giving a final verdict. Although that's probably a bit too negative for the church of optimism on here.
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Have to call spade a spade and admit he has done a really good job since the Burnley defeat. He has received dog abuse from some , even calling him a PE teacher who doesn't know a thing about management or how he is the worst manager in the league blah blah. Maybe he does know what he is doing and can become more than decent manager. Just like players can improve, a manager can also improve. The whole logic of how he relegated Cardiff is ridiculous considering many have already stated they were one of the worst sides to play in PL.
I want to see how he does when the football resumes. Hopefully the break does everyone a good and we become even more rejuvenated.
I want to see how he does when the football resumes. Hopefully the break does everyone a good and we become even more rejuvenated.
At the start of the season I predicted us to finish 7th-10th in the league. I was prepared for such a low place in the table as long as the things that needed to be done get done:
Clear the deadwood
Change in transger policy (bring in players that clearly want to be here and the ones we bring in actually turn out to be successful signings)
Improve the players we have (your Martials, Freds, Shaws etc)
give young players a chance
have a settled 11 (or 8-9)
bring some positivity
That’s a huge job at any club let alone a club the size of Man Utd in a league as hard as the PL and so far Ole has delivered on pretty much all those things.
I also give Ole the benefit of the doubt on the fact that we haven’t replaced Lukaku and Herrera/Fellaini. That’s much harder to do in real life than in Fifa or Football manager. I doubt Ole had the funds and the players ready to come here but just decided “naah I have Lingard and Pereira”.
Pretty much any manager would gladly buy quality players if given the option to do so.
Is he the man to get us back at the very top? We’ll see, but the signs are positive and I’m quite sure that even if he’s not at least he’ll leave the club in a much healthier state than when he came in. We’re still in a rebuilding process and who ever manages the club next season won’t have a proper top, settled, healthy club on their hands.
Managing a team like Man Utd is a hard job with huge pressure. No matter the table position United will always have expectations, press attention etc
Whos to be certain that Neiglesmann would handle a big club like this? It broke managers with a much better pedigree.
In Ole I trust.
Clear the deadwood
Change in transger policy (bring in players that clearly want to be here and the ones we bring in actually turn out to be successful signings)
Improve the players we have (your Martials, Freds, Shaws etc)
give young players a chance
have a settled 11 (or 8-9)
bring some positivity
That’s a huge job at any club let alone a club the size of Man Utd in a league as hard as the PL and so far Ole has delivered on pretty much all those things.
I also give Ole the benefit of the doubt on the fact that we haven’t replaced Lukaku and Herrera/Fellaini. That’s much harder to do in real life than in Fifa or Football manager. I doubt Ole had the funds and the players ready to come here but just decided “naah I have Lingard and Pereira”.
Pretty much any manager would gladly buy quality players if given the option to do so.
Is he the man to get us back at the very top? We’ll see, but the signs are positive and I’m quite sure that even if he’s not at least he’ll leave the club in a much healthier state than when he came in. We’re still in a rebuilding process and who ever manages the club next season won’t have a proper top, settled, healthy club on their hands.
Managing a team like Man Utd is a hard job with huge pressure. No matter the table position United will always have expectations, press attention etc
Whos to be certain that Neiglesmann would handle a big club like this? It broke managers with a much better pedigree.
In Ole I trust.
Look at those poll results! Wow!!
After a lot of practice, you get so good at tying you shoe lace, that you can just remove the shoe without undoing the shoe lace, and easily step into it the next time.
Just have to tighten the knot once in a while
Which tells us people change their mind to the completely opposite after literally every successful or bad period of results
The only doubt in my mind would be if the club have already spoken with Poch when the results weren't great and promised him the job at the end of the season. If that's the case then it's stick or bust time for the club.
So, by this logic, option one is not applicable due to Poch unable to take up employment until the new season due to his compensation terms.
Not really - it's been sat at around 50% Ole out for months with just small moves, it's been a major change in last few weeks
Maybe. The silence from Poch is deafening. He's probably one of the most in demand managers around which makes me think he could already have his future sorted and he's already stated his desire to stay in the PL and if that's the case there's only (for me) 3 clubs he would go to. Us, City and maybe Chelski although after managing Spurs that one might be a non starter. I'm not saying it's going to happen but it is a possibility that the club have spoken with him and have arrangements in place.
If that is the case what will they do if Ole continues to impress?
The poll only just reopened.
It's a results business
Of course people will change their minds if they see evidence that the manager can get consistent performances out of the team.
If the team then went on a bad run in the remaining 11 or 12 games, or whatever it is with Europa, and United finished 8 or 9th people would be calling for his head again and rightly so.
You mean the polls saying that the majority still feels we should replace him ?
There is no way they have arrangements in place for another manager - at best they have spoken to someone and asked him if he is available. You don't go hire someone 6 months in advance and then give the manager you will sack, money to sign new players
To be fair there isn't a wait til the end of the season and then make a decision option.
I've picked b because it's the closest to that.
Why does a little bit of optimism concern you? Isnt it better than the bloodbath this forum has been for the last 6 months?
Is he though? The compensation for managers tends to be somewhere in the region of a no-risk lower league player, so we arent talking astronomical numbers here.
Its seems to me that the cult following he has with United fans isnt necessarily shared by everyone.
After a lot of practice, you get so good at tying you shoe lace, that you can just remove the shoe without undoing the shoe lace, and easily step into it the next time.
Just have to tighten the knot once in a while
Several metaphors in there somewhere I’m sure
Rather silence from media outlets than from Poch himself. Whenever United have lost a game this season, there have been numerous articles about Ole being sacked, or whatever they can dig up of negative stuff (United holding talks with Poch... or someone else, players not happy with the coaching staff, etc.). Win one game, and it´s the opposite (Ole backed by the board, players demand that Ole continues, etc).
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Reopened, but not reset. You saw what happened last time it got reset just after United had lost to Burnley, the support for Ole fell with 20% from one day to another. You would see the same effect if it was reset now, just the other way around.
Well, what can we fans really base our opinion on, other than results.
I´m worried this is the end of the season. The pandemi is tipped by experts to kick in for real in May and last through the whole summer, probable until October. Or until they come up with a vaccine.
Pretty sure the sack option has dropped 5% overnight, which is crazy and great at the same time.
I wish I knew how to quit you Ole!
Seriously though wait until the end of the season but i'll be damned if he isn't making a strong case for himself. I turned Ole out after Burnley, but i'm always open minded about things.
Edit: If this is the end of the season, i'm still unconvinced. Seems like Bruno has sparked this turnaround and he would be just as great under a more polished manager.
Seriously though wait until the end of the season but i'll be damned if he isn't making a strong case for himself. I turned Ole out after Burnley, but i'm always open minded about things.
Edit: If this is the end of the season, i'm still unconvinced. Seems like Bruno has sparked this turnaround and he would be just as great under a more polished manager.
People are starting to believe. It just took a run of results to tip them over onto the pro-Ole side of the fence.
I think sometimes people get lost in the complete misery we’ve had to put up with since SAF retired.
Ole ticks all the boxes and is delivering in all areas I was focussed on at the beginning of the season, which is why I’ve never wavered from backing Ole.
Nothing to do with him being a Legend, purely down to improvements in key areas that were not addressed by previous managers.
I’m excited for the summer window now, hope this delay to the league doesn’t kill our momentum.
We need a CL place, then on to signing Kane and Sancho
Dude, you have to give Ole credit A. For signing Bruno and B. For providing a functional/improved side for him to walk into.
It’s frankly narrow minded to say we are doing well purely because of one player anyway.
Of course Bruno has been class, but any player needs a positive environment and functioning/balanced squad in order to hit the ground running like that.
Ye but I think the general shift in sentiment comes from the last few weeks, basically since the winter break
Not that I have changed my view at any point
Exactly. Good post.
People are starting to believe. It just took a run of results to tip them over onto the pro-Ole side of the fence.
I think sometimes people get lost in the complete misery we’ve had to put up with since SAF retired.
Ole ticks all the boxes and is delivering in all areas I was focussed on at the beginning of the season, which is why I’ve never wavered from backing Ole.
Nothing to do with him being a Legend, purely down to improvements in key areas that were not addressed by previous managers.
I’m excited for the summer window now, hope this delay to the league doesn’t kill our momentum.
We need a CL place, then on to signing Kane and Sancho
Agree with most of that but do not want Kane.
He's less and less effective every year.
We need someone on the up.
Oh it probably is the end of the season. I was speaking more generally.
If it ends now he's probably done enough to be given more time imo.
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