We do need a DOF to unearth EPL proven players don't we? Maybe as a DOF, Ole can spot Harry Kane at Spurs or Van Dijk at Liverpool. That would be awesome.
Would you sack or keep Ole? (Poll reopened)
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We do need a DOF to unearth EPL proven players don't we? Maybe as a DOF, Ole can spot Harry Kane at Spurs or Van Dijk at Liverpool. That would be awesome.
Up until April of that year, he featured mostly as a sub towards the end of games, and it's true his record as a sub wasn't all that. In his 6 starts in the league that season, however, he scored 3 and got 2 assists. That's not a terrible record.
Rodgers finished 2nd on 84 points, 2 points off City. Rafa finished 2nd on 86 points, 4 points off United. Rafa got about as close to winning it as Rodgers did, I'd say.
Liverpool were 10th in the league when they sacked Rodgers, having finished 6th the previous season. They were one point better off than Poch's Spurs were at the same point this season, but had scored less and conceded more. They had 5 wins in their last 16 league games, and three of those came against relegation fodder, while one came against a newly promoted side. In those 16 games, they had scored 17 and conceded 27. Their form was dire, and showed no signs of improving. So your claim that Liverpool weren't doing that badly at the time is clearly false, as @lysglimt correctly pointed out.
Still as ridiculous idea as it has always been. How can a failed manager leave his job and be hired immediately at the same club in a role that will see him pretty much ruling over the next manager? Also, signing 3 good players isn't enough to be a good Dof.
How can a failed manager be hired to replace another manager who hasn't failed yet? 
Still Ole in till further notice thank you very much.
Ole out Poch in. That’s all it is for me.
Can’t see him going anywhere before the summer at the earliest, Levy will have loaded his pay-off with all sorts of clauses. Will probably have 3-4 clubs to choose from by then as well.
How can a failed manager be hired to replace another manager who hasn't failed yet?
Are you actually saying Ole is a better manager than Poch? A man who got Spurs challenging with the big boys & a European Cup final to the point Jose would go there now to a man who got Cardiff relegated & gave us our worst start in Prem history?
The Ole cult is crazy
Ole seems to be doing the right thing right move exciting to watch.
Don’t sack him if anything, Ole DOF poch coach. With one caveat back room staff remains unchanged let’s learn from our mistakes a bit
Don’t sack him if anything, Ole DOF poch coach. With one caveat back room staff remains unchanged let’s learn from our mistakes a bit
Or we could hire actual DoF. Someone who already works in that area.
If we really wanted pochetinno. I belief deals would have been made. Ole would be given the season and respectfully resign at the end
The thing where i don't understand that cult( i don't like that word but they started that with Jose cult so..) is that they all talk about long term. So what is better for United and United only in a long term?
It is either to stay with (so far) limited manager who is still learning despite he is in this job more than 10 years, manager who doesn't have good results and who is still working on game style. Plus lets be honest here; players coming in club because of a manager is not a myth. I doubt that players who have other options will pick United to work with Ole.
On the other hand we have proven PL manager who has now big reputation in world of football and for who we all now what is his style, game approach and who is good in building teams. Poch is not like Mourinho who will stay 2 years and buy older player for instant success or Allegri who is "defensive" manager.
I really don't get this faith in Ole. People just can't forget the fact that he is our legend i guess.
Now Poch is available it's a no brainier, I get the Ole cult thing as he is a legend but as a player not as a manager. If we don't get Poch now we will regret it for years to come as Ole won't offer us nothing what Poch can't offer us right now....
Would it hurt you learn that there is no Ole cult? Just a large section of our support that believe in this project and want to give it a chance to succeed.
Too early to conclude things are taking shape. We have only beaten a couple of dross teams. As it stands, I have doubts about us winning at Bramall lane this weak never mind against the big boys of the league. Only time will tell but so far OGS has been nothing short of disastrous in general since he got appointed on a permanent basis
And to be honest, this has been one of our major problems as a club in recent times. We are never proactive and always take reactionary actions even when it is clear to ever Tom and Harry we are heading downhill. If we acted more swiftly over the years, we would be in a much better position than now
No we won't.
I'm more desperate than ever for Ole to succeed now due to the Mourinho circus. I hope the players realise how much is at stake and make sure to show how wrong the Portuguese twat was.
Then we will simply remain irrelevant if this is the case cos truth be told, no one is afraid of Manchester United anymore. If Ole's performance is adjudged not bad enough to warrant a change, then I don't see us ever returning to the top with that mentality. Look at Bayern for instance and Kovac's results before he was sacked ;Man United would never fire a manager on that run. Spurs are even demanding more standards as a club. We are in a deep mess!
Is our current manager a talented one that befits a club of our size?
I think the term is overused presently, but in this case it is appropriate. Spurs are at the end of a cycle, while United are at the beginning of one.
Of course he isn't. It is only on Redcafe and a United forum will this question be even asked in the first place. Ole being mentioned in the same breath as Pochettino. Some of our fans are frankly deluded beyond belief!
What cycle are we beginning exactly? Because all I have seen since the beginning of this season is further slipping away from the top clubs in England, never mind Europe.
Were did I say Ole should be considered because of those achievements? Someone said his greatest achievement was getting relegated with Cardiff so I was correcting them.
Also Strømsgodset won their first league title in 1970. Ronny Deila was born in 1975 so somehow I don't think that's impossible.
Sir Alex Ferguson won titles in Scotland but then so did Walter Smith just because you won leagues in the same country as a certain manager that doesn't automatically put you in contention for a big job.
Does that mean Leicester should have considered Ronny Deila at the time of appointing Brendan Rodgers?
That remains to be seen. Is he good enough to win a lot of football matches with a very young & thin squad that have suffered key injuries? No - but then few are.
Is he the right person to strip our squad of the players that have been stealing a living, and to bring in the right type of player that will help us to change the culture at the club? Maybe - some good work has been done and there are encouraging signs, but a long way to go. You don't erase 5 years of bad decisions in 6 months. Im 42 and in my lifetime supporting United this is the most urgent need for transition/rebuild that I've seen here since when Ferguson took over the club. I'm willing to be patient.
This has all been done to death. Squad rebuild, culture change etc.
Actually its the opposite. Its only on Redcafe that there is such a movement to replace the manager. In the real world and amongst the match-goers (and the media) - the vast majority of people that I speak to support this project and want to give it a chance to succeed.
We are quite a young team and inconsistent results are expected. Sheffield is going to be difficult fixture considering they have the most clean sheets and even livepool depended on luck to get a result there. For me I can see improvement in lot of players such as martial, Rashford, James, SMT ect.. This is a good sign as I see.
Have to admit, there are some similarities.
Do you seriously believe Pochettino is the only good manager out there ? A manager who has had one brilliant season as a manager in his entire career ?
If OGS fails and gets sacked - there will be 20 managers out there who is just as good as Pochettino - and 3-4-5 of these will probably be available if that happens
So just because they don't think the same way you do, they are deluded ?
If anyone is arguing that Solskjaer is a better manager than Poch then that is deluded. Not because it's an opinion Poster X disagrees with but because it's an opinion that isn't based on actual reality.
We could pay pocc a fee to not take a job before the end of the season. If ole comes up trumps (top 4) we win if he doesn't we sign pocc. He was reportedly on 7 mill a year at spurs so 3 mill to ask him to wait is f all to utd..
There are but there is no way in hell we are getting Jadon Sancho. He'll be at Liverpool, City, someone like that next season.
20 managers...I'd like to know who these managers who like Poch has PL experience and done a brilliant job at Spurs with minimum spending.
I don't think anyone is arguing that, but we might as well be based on how quick some are to label us deluded Ole cultists for simply saying we want to see him given a bit more time.
Match going fans supported Jose, Moyes and LVG till the end.
And sometimes is wise to hear other club fans. They are all happy with us having Ole as manager. Sure, you can say at first "feck them" but it says something.
If there are 20 managers out there good as Poch then i would love to know how many managers are out there who are good as Ole.
Exactly. Pretty much sums it up. This discusses will never exist beyond a United forum. Yes, some will prefer other top managers like Pep, Klopp, Conte etc ahead of him but preferring to stick with Ole ahead of Poch is something just 2-3 years from now will look at and laugh about it. I have no doubt this thread will look funny as hell in the future.
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