Would you be happy with Morata, Fabinho, Lindelof and Perisic?

Would you be happy with Morata, Fabinho, Lindelof and Perisic?

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--Martial-----Morata------Mkh

---------------Pogba------------
----Fabinho-----------Herrera---

Shaw---Lindelof-----Bailly----AV

-------------De Gea-------------


---------------Morata------------

Perisic-----Pogba----AH/Mkh-----Mkh/lingard

--------------Fabinho-------------

Shaw-----Lindelof-----Bailly------AV

---------------De Gea---------------


---------Martial/Rash----Morata------

Perisic----Pogba-----Fabinho-----Mkh

Shaw-----Lindelof------Bailly-----AV--

-----------------De Gea---------------


-----------------Morata----------------
----Martial-------------------Perisic
----------------MKh/mata-------------

-----------Pogba-----Fabinho/AH-----

Shaw------Lindelof----Bailly-------AV

----------------De Gea---------------


Still need one attacking player more this year in a creative wide option.
 
I'd still say we need a left back and a right back but Rome wasn't built in a day.
We've been a bit weak on the right hand side winger wise for ages too.
 
Im happy with whatever the manager does, he knows better than me what makes a successful football team. I expect us to be in the top 4 come the end of next season without any worry, and a potential title challenge on the cards.

Once the pre-season tour starts we'll have a good idea about the way we want to play and our personnel. Im looking forward to seeing what the manager does.
 
cheeky_backheel said:
You are the one changing the goal post by dragging the entire team into your excuse of why our attackers are not scoring enough.

- All the attacking trio I listed cut in and do not provide width for their teams, so your excuse is moot.
- We dominated possession in most of our games, particularly in the first half of the season, so your excuses about LB, ball playing defender and other defensive issues are nonsense
- Fellaini started only 18 league games, with most coming towards the end of the season, so you cannot use him as an excuse for why we struggled to score goals for most of the season
- Ibra had to drop deep cos we lacked a quality #10 to create chance for him to get on the end of. This is further buttressed by the fact that Herrerra who played mostly as a DM led the team in assists

But enough of the digression and diversioon.

The fact of the matter is that we ranked 4th in total shots and shot on goal, but had a conversion rate of 13% which ranked us 17th, slightly behind Hull (13.1%) and above only Sunderland, Middlesborough and Southampton. 3 of those 4 teams were relegated! That is clear evidence of a lack of quality upfront (For comparison, Chelsea had a conversion rate of 21%, Arsenal 20%, Liverpool 19%, City 18% and Spurs 18%)

That is a simple fact and all your long winded narrations are simply nonsense in an attempt to obfuscate the truth and justify your incorrect view of what is wrong and/or needed by the team.

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Haha, Please If we lack quality why not spend another 500 m and buy sanchez bale giezmann lewandowski Vidal and Marcelo and lets sell Martial Rashford Mkh Mata and shaw and improve the quality of the team and score 121 goals like madrid under mourinho. right?

My excuses? Its hillarious.
 
I have a feeling Mourinho wants to build a squad that is not afraid to defend, congests the middle of the pitch and encourages opponents to pass to the sides, and run counterattack. I could actually see us moving to a 4-3-2-1 with a more defensive triangle and diagonal passing.

Ultimately, I love Morata, but he will not be enough to replace Zlatan and then add additional goals. Our attack will not be good to start next season. Maybe Martial and/or Rashford develop into dominant goal scorers, or maybe Mkhitaryan can develop on what he did in the Europa League, but I just ultimately don't see it.

Goal scoring is not going to be United's thing next season. We need to be able to play amazing defense - which with De Gea, Bailey, Lindelof, Fabinho (hopefully), Pogba, Herrera, and Valencia - should be possible, and run great counterattacks through our midfield. Outside of us signing a true #10 and a pacy wing, I don't see that changing, and Mourinho knows it.
 
Everyone forgetting as many goals as Ibra scored, he was at fault for missing a lot of chances.

If people genuinely believe our players (Pogba, Mkhi, etc.) will miss as many chances, they're insane.
 
We'd be an attacker short of what we should be getting IMO. Perisic looks alright but as the main attacker not being a striker being brought it, sounds a bit disappointing.
 
Id be happy, yeah. As others have said the perisic price looks exaggerated though. Is felipe anderson is still available he might be a better option, certainly a younger one.
 
Morata and Fabinho should both be great signings if we get them. Lindelof seems promising but I've never seen him. Perisic idk, but I'll trust Mourinho's judgement. Like others I also think some of our other players will step up a bit next season. I wouldn't be surprised if we sign someone who isn't one of these four though
 
Ideally we'd also get another left back.

Won't be particularly thrilled with Perisic if it's anything like the amount Inter are demanding.
 
One special "gold dust" player missing. Dybala or his like now that Griezz is not available. I also think (reading various media sources) Jose is interested in buying Peresic more due to his all-round game, especially defending than a major force up front. Our problem last season was scoring not defending.

I also think the biggest transfer of the summer we'll be keeping DDG.
 
Remember ladies, all titles are build on the defence and grinding 1 nils away from home on chilly nights playing piss poor football. Add another physical forward who can hold up the ball for a bit and hit it hard and low then we are set for a title run in.
 
prtk0811 said:
Haha, Please If we lack quality why not spend another 500 m and buy sanchez bale giezmann lewandowski Vidal and Marcelo and lets sell Martial Rashford Mkh Mata and shaw and improve the quality of the team and score 121 goals like madrid under mourinho. right?

My excuses? Its hillarious.
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We dont have to spend 500m to improve our attack, as there are quality players that are better than what we currently have and are likely available for less than your 500m. Even adding Griezmann alone would upgrade our attack.

What will not improve our attack is suggesting we spend 50m on an average player like Perisic and trying to justify it with the ridiculous idea that our attack is the only one in the world that needs hard working average player to excel. It is surprising that Perisic, with his work rate that you desire so much, who has never taken the attack of any of his previous clubs to a high level, but you expect he will now work magic in ours and make us a goal scoring machine. Doubt even Perisic will make such ridiculous claims of himself.
 
Ibi Dreams said:
Like others I also think some of our other players will step up a bit next season.
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They has to step up something like 20-30 goals. 20-30 if Morata can do same Zlatan did, which im not sure at all. There is huge gap between 54 and ~80 goals. We will not win anything big (PL or CL) before we upgrade our attack a lot. For me it means at least two attacking players and at least one of them should be world class. 25 goals CF and some 10+20/15+15 AMF/10/Winger.
 
Yes, would be satisfied. We still have players like Shaw, Mkhitaryan, Martial and Rashford who will more than likely have better seasons than last.

Edit:Pogba will be better next season too after a proper rest/pre season
 
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Happy but not overly so. We still don't have a difference maker in the squad.
 
I would be happy with that window. If our current players can step it up a notch (Martial, Mhiki) we should be competing for the PL. Still believe we need another one of these big windows to win the PL and have a good shot at the CL. Next summer we will likely need another LB, a RB and we need a better midfield on the bench to give rest to Pogba, Herrera and our new DM signing.
 
I remember people were livid in 2006 when we only signed Carrick, with everyone wondering how we'd replace RVN's goals. Thankfully everything came together that season with the likes of Evra and Vidic finding their best form and Ronaldo turning into a superstar. I doubt we'll unearth another Ronaldo but we have a platform to build on last season such as Rashford, Mkhi, Pogba, Martial, Shaw etc. If they can do so and the new players settle well then we have reason to be optimistic. Mourninho's signings were all a success to some extent so I'm quietly confident we can launch a title challenge.
 
I think a lot depends on Martial and Mkhitarian. Do they have it in them to fulfill their potential in this team? Does Jose even see them as key players? I have my doubts on both but we would really need them to step up if we are not signing any attackers besides Morata and Perisic. If they do, we could be in business. Also hoping that Jose has a plan to get the most out of Pogba and hopefully someone like Fabinho could facilitate that. We have some quality players already who under peeformed last year. Let's hope we can get the best out of them.

Having said that, I don't see us magically adding the 30-40 goals we would need to challenge for the league. Another season of improvement and showing like we belong in the title race would be my expectation, but I was hoping Jose's 2nd year would be decisive.
 
Would depend on who leaves but I think we'd then be a top class signing or two away from being serious contenders. As is, it would be a top 4 capable and getting out of the group stage in the CL
 
Gazza said:
I think a lot depends on Martial and Mkhitarian. Do they have it in them to fulfill their potential in this team? Does Jose even see them as key players? I have my doubts on both but we would really need them to step up if we are not signing any attackers besides Morata and Perisic. If they do, we could be in business. Also hoping that Jose has a plan to get the most out of Pogba and hopefully someone like Fabinho could facilitate that. We have some quality players already who under peeformed last year. Let's hope we can get the best out of them.

Having said that, I don't see us magically adding the 30-40 goals we would need to challenge for the league. Another season of improvement and showing like we belong in the title race would be my expectation, but I was hoping Jose's 2nd year would be decisive.
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Would we really have needed an additional 30-40 goals in the season just gone to challenge for the league? We had so many games where just one more goal would have given us 2 more points, and they were games where we really SHOULD have scored more based on our play and the chances we created. Looking at the table now, Liverpool scored 24 more goals than we did but only ended up 7 points ahead of us. We could have made 8 points more by scoring just four more goals in any of the draws we had. In that scenario they'd be 20 goals ahead but still below us in the table. Our defence was very good last season and should be again this season, so I think 30-40 more goals is way more than we would need
 
Nope. Swap Perisic out for Mahrez and I'd be happier.

Ultimately, none of these players are 'guarantees' and they're all various shades of underwhelming except for Fabinho.
 
I'd be happy with those signings. Might want another LB though.
 
Ibi Dreams said:
Would we really have needed an additional 30-40 goals in the season just gone to challenge for the league? We had so many games where just one more goal would have given us 2 more points, and they were games where we really SHOULD have scored more based on our play and the chances we created. Looking at the table now, Liverpool scored 24 more goals than we did but only ended up 7 points ahead of us. We could have made 8 points more by scoring just four more goals in any of the draws we had. In that scenario they'd be 20 goals ahead but still below us in the table. Our defence was very good last season and should be again this season, so I think 30-40 more goals is way more than we would need
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I think we at least need the potential to score that many goals. But I take the point, the figure might be a bit high. In any case, I don't look at the games we drew last season and simply imagine if we had found an extra goal from somewhere we would have been in title contention. Our attacking play was often lacking in ideas so a lot of teams were happy to accept the point against us by sitting back. We need to threaten to score goals from all areas or else we will be too predictable to play against.
 
Swap Perisic for Douglas Costa and add Mendy and then we got a side challenging for the league.
I firmly believe we need an actual winger with pace who can consistently beat his man off the dribble and we need a lb than can support the attack and get the ball in the box.

I like Shaw but next season is incredibly important and it's best to err on the side of caution and let him and Mendy fight it out of the lb position.
 
I don't think Fabinho is a target of ours.

With that being said, i still feel we would lack goals with those 4 added. Dunno who we should go for to change that, Griezmann was the only one that seemed ideal and realistic.
 
ravi2 said:
Swap Perisic for Douglas Costa and add Mendy and then we got a side challenging for the league.
I firmly believe we need an actual winger with pace who can consistently beat his man off the dribble and we need a lb than can support the attack and get the ball in the box.
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You mean Perisic? As opposed to a player whose failed to impress in Bundesliga and is just an FM/FIFA merchant?
 
If those four were done and dusted before pre-season I'd be more than happy. Lindelof seems to be the only done dealio, though. I also have a feeling there's a Madrid spanner in the Morata deal somewhere.

For LB, I hope Shaw finds fitness and form and Darmian, Blind are sufficient backup. Perhaps CBJ too.
 
An Irish Red said:
That's because it's not. Look at the attackers that our rivals have and then consider that we'd be adding Perisic to an attack where Lingard and Rashford are important players. Grim.
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I do think the right players in the right system who are being used effectively can cause danger and be more effective than superstars wrongly used. It really is to hope that Mourinho has a clear plan for the team and knows exactly what he wants from these plays and is convinced that they can do that.
 
The only scenario in which we wont go for a new LB is that José has still trust on Shaw or he is satisfied with Darmian's contribution. And neither of those assumptions seem realistic.
 
Morata and Fabinho yes. No to the other two. Like I said before we need to buy players who are good enough to improve the first XI. Not sure the latter two fit that bill. In addition I think we need two strikers as we currently only have Rashford who can play up top and score goals, and even then he is not prolific
 
Phil Jones 79 said:
Morata and Fabinho yes. No to the other two. Like I said before we need to buy players who are good enough to improve the first XI. Not sure the latter two fit that bill. In addition I think we need two strikers as we currently only have Rashford who can play up top and score goals, and even then he is not prolific
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As for that, Morata most likely isnt improvement on Ibra at all.
 
Ibi Dreams said:
Would we really have needed an additional 30-40 goals in the season just gone to challenge for the league? We had so many games where just one more goal would have given us 2 more points, and they were games where we really SHOULD have scored more based on our play and the chances we created. Looking at the table now, Liverpool scored 24 more goals than we did but only ended up 7 points ahead of us. We could have made 8 points more by scoring just four more goals in any of the draws we had. In that scenario they'd be 20 goals ahead but still below us in the table. Our defence was very good last season and should be again this season, so I think 30-40 more goals is way more than we would need
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This. Excellent viewpoint which I'm sharing. It's not only about bags of goals. It's about scoring at the right time, and the right people standing up when we need goals.

I hope we have that player next season.

It might be interesting seeing how many games Ibra actually scored winning goals. I'm sure quite a few, but he still wasn't the SOLE reason.
 
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