Would you be happy with Morata, Fabinho, Lindelof and Perisic?
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We really missed the buck on Sadio mane last season, Klopp taped him up like he was trying to tap van dyk
Playing a 4-3-3 whilst having wide forwards that struggle to score more than 5-10 goals in the league would not be balanced.
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Yeah, but with a winger younger than Perisic. I trust Mounhino in general, but 'll be here in three years time, Mourinho won't.
Withthe passing range and energy of someone like fabinho and pogba further up with no defensive duties on wide forwards They would score a lot more.
I would be extremely happy if we add a belotti or even a chicharito to this list. I know people want us to sign left back but it seems jose trusts shaw, darmian and blind to do the job. Also, fabinho will be the key signing considering we will be hitting two birds with one stone by buying fabinho. He can play rb as well as cdm.
But these 4 signings will be good enough to strengthen our squad.
But these 4 signings will be good enough to strengthen our squad.
Morata, Fabinho, Lindelof = Yes
new LB, new CAM/#10 = hopefully
Perisic = NEVER!
new LB, new CAM/#10 = hopefully
Perisic = NEVER!
Griezmann instead of Perisic would have been amazing. But we still have to play our position, we are still not quite the finished article and there is a question mark over our playing style. I believe this upcoming season will define our transfer windows for seasons to come.
I really wouldn't be happy with that. We had a terrible attack last year and replacing Zlatan with Morata and adding Perisic wouldn't improve that.
Take a look at the attacking options our rivals have and then ask yourself how highly you'd rate a front three of Perisic, Morata and Mkhitaryan in comparison. It doesn't hold up well.
Take a look at the attacking options our rivals have and then ask yourself how highly you'd rate a front three of Perisic, Morata and Mkhitaryan in comparison. It doesn't hold up well.
Perišić would have a role to hug the touchline more and provide crosses, his finishing has been questionable for Inter. Has only scored more than 10 goals once in eight league campaigns in top divisions and that was 11 goals last season.
Mkhitaryan is more of a creator, he's never been the best of finishers and I think we've seen that at times. The one time he did score over 10 league goals in top-flight divisions is largely down to Tuchel's system.
Rashford just won't be able to do it out wide, he will deliver as a CF.
Our only hope is if Martial finds some form and Mata, Mata to be fair to him has consistently scored 10 goals a season for us but wouldn't expect any more.
The reality is, barring some serious form change, we don't have enough goal-threats to play a 4-3-3 that could really hurt opposition teams.
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Yes I would be happy with the signings and don't think we need to consider what other people have done for a change.
As United fans we never used to obsess about what other teams did in the market. We only began to in the latter days of SAF when we failed to strengthen the areas we obviously needed year after year.
For the past two summer windows under Mourinho (assuming we sign the four mentioned by the op) we have signed players in positions that we needed most and going off last season alone the signings have been good.
As a United fan I'm happy with that. Now I place my faith in Mourinho and the team and see how the season unfolds.
As United fans we never used to obsess about what other teams did in the market. We only began to in the latter days of SAF when we failed to strengthen the areas we obviously needed year after year.
For the past two summer windows under Mourinho (assuming we sign the four mentioned by the op) we have signed players in positions that we needed most and going off last season alone the signings have been good.
As a United fan I'm happy with that. Now I place my faith in Mourinho and the team and see how the season unfolds.
I think we need a better attacking LB and another striker. Two positions that lack good, quality players that are available. We need more goals to truly become a top team.
I think that would be a decent window for us.
Add one of Bale/ James/ Mbappe/ Mahrez/ Belotti/ Dembele and suddenly it's an excellent window.
Add one of Bale/ James/ Mbappe/ Mahrez/ Belotti/ Dembele and suddenly it's an excellent window.
I am not worried about City until they sort out their central defence and find replacements for Fernandinho and Toure.
The lack of goals is more of a lack of quality than a defensive burden. In a 4-3-3 the attacking trio usually bear the majority of the scoring load.Assuming Morata equals Zlatan's productivity, we would still need to have a major improvement in the wide attackers scoring output or add another goal threat through the middle.
Martial scores and creates from the left, I expect him to bounce back and play more regularly this year. Perisic scored 10 goals last season in case he doesn't. Mata chips in with goals. Mhiki should also settle in a bit better this season.
Pogba should be scoring more of we have a competant midfield and attackers who create space this year.
That's what annoys me the most. If we sign Lindelof, Fabinho and Morata I honestly think we're one elite attacker away from challenging; and Perisic isn't that player.
I'm convinced that we'll sign Perisic and be in the same position next year, bemoaning our attackers, and wanting the top tier signing that we should be getting in this window.
Also, jose said during the season he won't be making too many changes to our squad. I can't see 6 or 7 players sold, he will want to keep the core aka can't see him selling blind,darmian,mata,shaw,jones,smalling all in once. I would be personally gutted if he sells blind or darmian or even rojo. All of them showed they want to fight and did well when given the chance. Let us being some stability to the squad, enough of changing and chopping.
We could start as a 433 and sub on and finishthe game as 4141 or 451 inverted wing system. Wide players with work rate and work horse are important for balance in a squad. Dont have to play a fix system, Mix it up for unpredictability.
We finished sixth in the league. If that isn't evidence that some of our players don't belong here then I don't know what is.
I would be content with that. However, I rather we change Perisic for Martins and add a left back to our team.
De Gea
Valencia/Darmien - Bailiy/Smalling - Linderoff/Rojo - Mendy/Shaw
Fabinho/Blind
Herrera/Pereira - Pogba/Fellaini
Mhkitaryan/Lingard - Morata/Rashford - Martial/Gelson Martins
Valencia/Darmien - Bailiy/Smalling - Linderoff/Rojo - Mendy/Shaw
Fabinho/Blind
Herrera/Pereira - Pogba/Fellaini
Mhkitaryan/Lingard - Morata/Rashford - Martial/Gelson Martins
I'll be very happy if you only sign those four players. Morata is just a replacement for Ibrahimovic and will almost definitely score less goals than the latter, so your attacking problems still won't be fixed. Lindelöf is a good buy but you're already sound defensively, and I can't see the point of signing Perisic to be honest - athough he's a good player, you've got enough options on the wing.
Fabinho would definitely improve and stabilize your midfield, but it's up front where your problems are and signing only Morata simply won't solve that imo.
Fabinho would definitely improve and stabilize your midfield, but it's up front where your problems are and signing only Morata simply won't solve that imo.
Assuming Morata replaces Zlatan's goals on his own (and that's a big assumption) we'd still lack goals. At that point we'd have to hope that the general improvement in the team and maybe players who are already here would cover that for us.
So assumptions, hopes and maybes. Not a great platform for success next year. We would need more firepower, I think. Especiallly if we assume that these signings will see the productive Mata play fewer games.
So assumptions, hopes and maybes. Not a great platform for success next year. We would need more firepower, I think. Especiallly if we assume that these signings will see the productive Mata play fewer games.
I'd snap your hand off for that lot....
I would be happy, our squad would be significantly strengthen. I think we may need another striker with Zlat and Rooney possibly leaving. I trust Jose, he has brought us this far and knows what we need. This place is impossible to please, it really is. If we bought Messi or Ronaldo it would be too much money. They would be too old and we wouldn't be planning for the future. If we bought Mbappe, he's not premier league proven and too young/interfere with Rashford. There is simply no way of pleasing everyone. The amount of people moaning already this window is extraordinary.
Players like Pogba, Miki, Bailly, Martial, Shaw and Rashford should all improve. Jose knows our strengths and weaknesses. He will have identified the mix of experience and talent we need. Everybody thinks they know best, we need to give whoever comes a proper chance.
Players like Pogba, Miki, Bailly, Martial, Shaw and Rashford should all improve. Jose knows our strengths and weaknesses. He will have identified the mix of experience and talent we need. Everybody thinks they know best, we need to give whoever comes a proper chance.
We need to add a wide forward or a #10 this summer. We simply don't score enough goals.
That would still be a poor front line. Lingard is average, Rashford isn't much better; Mkhitaryan and Martial are inconsistent, nobody knows how Morata will adapt and Martins is incredibly raw.
There's no way we'd challenge for the title with that.
Not particularly, but I wouldn't exactly be unhappy. I guess indifferent or neutral. I agree with many we could do with a better attacker than Perisic, but I honestly Martial and Mkhitaryan at their very best are better than any option we could feasibly sign. I would also like a LB offensively better than Darmian/Blind, unless we place faith back in Shaw - which I really doubt.
Honestly doesn't feel much different to the windows we've had with LvG signing Schneiderlin, Darmian, Blind, Depay etc.
We could do with so much better signings.
We could do with so much better signings.
You underestimate the effect that a stable defense and midfield has on an attack.
If the midfielders are starting 15 yards deeper to compensate it seriously helps the opposition to control your attack.
I have faith in Mhiki and Martial based on previous seasons, so I'm not too worried about our attack now that we've basically secured Morata. Left back is a position I'd like to see addressed this window though. Herrera needs some competition as well, so Nainggolan and Mendy as additional signings would be a great window in my opinion. I'm assuming Pereira will be cover for Pogba, but he's pretty versatile so he could fill in for Herrera or even on the wing if needed.
It wasn't a lack of chances that made your attack look clueless/inept, it was finishing them that was a huge problem. Anyway, I don't really rate Morata either so maybe that's one of the reasons why I think you need more offensive firepower, but a lot of United fans seem to think the same. I guess we'll find out soon enough
Agree with most of your post but I don't think we have many options on the wings, most of these players we have are better utilised as Number 10's; Mkhitaryan, Mata and Lingard. I can understand the logic in signing Perišić (an out and out winger which we don't have) but I just don't think he'll have the necessary quality to improve our attack.
Yes. I can see the positives for all the signings and can't see any obvious improvements on them within the transfer market.
I think Perisic has the qualities to be a dangerous player in the premier league.
I think Perisic has the qualities to be a dangerous player in the premier league.
I don't think Perisic sounds good enough to win us a Champions League, which I think is the level of signing we should be aiming for.
I suppose I'd be happy with Mourinho getting what he wants, but I'd be happier with him getting a few of his more unrealistic targets as well. Take out Perisic and put in Sanchez/Mbappe/both and we'd be in with a shout of winning it all.
I suppose I'd be happy with Mourinho getting what he wants, but I'd be happier with him getting a few of his more unrealistic targets as well. Take out Perisic and put in Sanchez/Mbappe/both and we'd be in with a shout of winning it all.
I was going from a Fabinho-Herrera-Pogba midfield point of view with two wingers and a striker, but I don't know if that's Mourinho's favoured system to be fair. I thought Rashford would be used plenty of times on the wing if you sign Morata, because Jose won't play with two strikers. But yeah, if you class Mkhitaryan and Lingard as 10s then you can definitely use another winger, agree on that.
Not at all.
Lack of Quality? You mean to say A 58 m Pound buy martial who scored 17 goals and 11 assists and Mkh and mata lacks quality? No its not lack of quality,its lack of balance due to high work rate and defensive demands which a player like perisic or willianor mane would eaisily fit into but players who lack work rate and engine do not.
Pogba is a goal threat through the middle with more freedom to roam and if were were to add a no 10 it should only be griezmann next summer.
Creative wide players along with workhorse player is a requirement since griez is staying.