There are a few players who certainly should be stepping up. Not sure if it's remotely realistic to expect players like Young, Jones, Valencia, Smalling, etc to fecking step up to a level capable of overturning the current Man City though, if that's actually our intention for the season.
Wot, no transfers?
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Ambivilent. This mood is subject to change as the clock ticks ever closer to the deadline.
I think United successfully resolving the Toby situation is reliant on the outcome of Spurs signing Grealish.
You make plenty of good points in your full post, but let's not act that we turned these managers into rubbish. With Moyes, he was never good enough. L.van Gaal did come to us off the back of a decent world cup, but international footy is different to club footy and his last season at club level prior to managing the national team was a bad one. Same with José in that we got him off the back of his worst ever season. I think it'd have been different if we had got LvG or José in their primes - they could've done good stuff here, but they joined us long after their respective peaks.
As for Sir Alex, I think it was more to do with him going soft in his old age - keeping players long after their peak, keeping faith in youth products regardless of whether they were good enough, keeping on injury-prone players, etc. Even at the end of his career with us, even though a lot of us had complaints over our style of football, he was still great, though. He worked wonders with his last squad so you can only imagine what he would've done if we had invested the amount we do nowadays with José and LvG under him back then.
Jose confirmed no signings. Pack up shop lads, Woodward has fecked everything up.
If we don't sign a left back we're doing feck all this season. Centre Back and winger would be a nice to have.
Shaw, Jones and Darmian should be the ones moved on for Sandro/Kurzawa and Alderweireld/Maguire.
Shaw, Jones and Darmian should be the ones moved on for Sandro/Kurzawa and Alderweireld/Maguire.
Disappointing but we have to get on with what we have now. I never want to hear any spiel from Woodward ever again.
And with the high salaries, it is impossible to sell them on. Somehow strange that we haven’t a proper transfer strategy in place after all this year
Whoever keeps changing the thread title is my idol. It takes a dedication to keep changing the thread title to represent the state of caf. Really helpful so I don't have to read everything to know what's going on.
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Jose said only DAYS ago, that we needed at least one more signing to compete this season. Woodward won't deliver.
A whole season of the press saying the board won't back Jose. Well done Woodward....you played yourself.
A whole season of the press saying the board won't back Jose. Well done Woodward....you played yourself.
It has nothing to do with the Grealish situation. At all.
Penny pinching - or Woodie showing himself up as a man who can't negotiate well. Woodie complaining prices are hiked up because it's us, when teams of all shapes and sizes are able to do a lot of business, evidently he doesn't have the knack for it. He's class at commercial deals - not transfers.
Six hours left. We still can sign one or two players (If the club want it).
That's certainly one way of looking at it but another is the right players weren't available or possible. We already have a great squad. Only Liverpool have massively spent and only time will tell what improvement that makes. No other top team except Juve have brought in a stellar signing. It has been a very quiet window all round.
I cannot wait for the big surprise that Jose is lining up - the one Zlatan was teasing us with. Or... 
Did he actually say not transfers or did he not just say he wasn't thinking about them?
All this talk about Man City spending 50m on defenders.
Their full-backs consisted of Kolarov, Clichy, Sagna and Zabaleta. Most of them the wrong side of thirty. No sentimentality, he got them out quickly and brought in Stones in first season and Walker, Mendy and Laporte in second season.
Here's the thing. We joke that they're buying so many defenders, but the only reason we're not doing the exact same thing they're doing is because we're hanging onto the +30 defenders instead of replacing them. Do we think for a split second that replacing them with quality replacements wouldn't have cost us just as much as it cost City?
Sure, they spent money, necessarily, but the difference between the two teams is the investment in areas that needed to be invested in. We bought two CB's who are not first team players and neglected the much needed FB position. City identified the weak area of the team and got it sorted.
Their full-backs consisted of Kolarov, Clichy, Sagna and Zabaleta. Most of them the wrong side of thirty. No sentimentality, he got them out quickly and brought in Stones in first season and Walker, Mendy and Laporte in second season.
Here's the thing. We joke that they're buying so many defenders, but the only reason we're not doing the exact same thing they're doing is because we're hanging onto the +30 defenders instead of replacing them. Do we think for a split second that replacing them with quality replacements wouldn't have cost us just as much as it cost City?
Sure, they spent money, necessarily, but the difference between the two teams is the investment in areas that needed to be invested in. We bought two CB's who are not first team players and neglected the much needed FB position. City identified the weak area of the team and got it sorted.
If this window closes without us significantly strengthening our first team there should be an inquest in to who has let this happen. Starting with the board down.
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I don't many of us have a problem with City spending £50m on defenders, I think we'd quite like our club to show a similar level of ambition and upgrade our squad with significant investment.
For me, what City does is a benchmark that I measure our board's ambition by: If the board was serious about competing with City then it would be happy to spend similar amounts. The fact the board is not willing to spend say £50/£60m on Alderweireld or Alex Sandro says a lot about their real objectives: make a lot of money and hope the manager stays in the top four for the TV revenue.
Fair enough.
The clubs a joke, it's like we signed a deal with the devil for all the years of Sir Alex's success and now were in debt to the anti christ.
I honestly don't see United like I used to, the club is a shadow of it's former self and were now just business rather than a football club. I wait patiently to see who our next sponsorship partner is, no doubt we will be able to push that deal through easy enough.
Waiting waiting waiting just like 2013. Come on Woodward throw bids left right and centre.
.Certainly, and anyone blaming Jose for that at this point is blinded by agenda as far as I'm concerned. We can discuss his management of players, his style, his negative demeanour and whatnot but transfers are not on him. He's given names to Ed and the board and they haven't delivered. Whether or not there's more to this disagreement on targets between Jose and the board, and possibly legitimate difficulties behind the scenes in getting deals done, are fair talking points but none of that is on Jose.
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Literally the worst summer transfer window ever. Not even a sniff of a flight tracker in sight. Can't wait for the season to start and window to close. Oh, and Ed is full of crap.
I'm inclined to this viewpoint, there just doesn't seem much of anyone exciting around. The players we are linked with hardly excited me to any great degree.
What's even more alarming is that usually there are alternatives when you can't hire your targets. And we're not even getting those.
We aren't even offloading our transferable players!
Do City start with 19 points this year?
It's a 0 point gap, and our team is more than capable of picking up more than last year, we threw a lot of points away, whilst City won quite a few in the last minutes.
If we don’t sign anyone, it’s still not end of the world.
Just hope the player turn up is what I hope.
Even if lose at least there should be some fight from the players.
Just hope the player turn up is what I hope.
Even if lose at least there should be some fight from the players.
Come gather round children
It's high time ye learned
About a hero named José
And the devil Woodward
We'll march til he drops
Pogba for the Fella
We'll fight til the death
Or else fold like umbrellas
We march day and night
And shout how we feel
We want a transfer
Not a sponsorship deal
Not that I agree with all of it, but this is a refreshing post and perspective.
If by 5pm today we have not made any more signings, this transfer window has really been a shambles. First time I have said this about the window so far.
Keeping DDG, Pogba and Herrera for me is a big achievement this summer.
The club don't trust Jose anymore. I think they are reluctant to give him another 100-150m knowing he's more than likely going to leave in the next year.
Save the cash for Poch, Zidane or whoever is next. Jose would only waste it anyway and upset everyone further.
Save the cash for Poch, Zidane or whoever is next. Jose would only waste it anyway and upset everyone further.
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