Owners may not be going over board with transfer fee but they are certainly not stopping the money. We just don't wanna get mugged for average workhorse signings or in case of Sandro its pretty clear he changed his mind when Ronaldo arrived in Turin.
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Owners may not be going over board with transfer fee but they are certainly not stopping the money. We just don't wanna get mugged for average workhorse signings or in case of Sandro its pretty clear he changed his mind when Ronaldo arrived in Turin.
It may be that Woodward is cognisant of Mourinho's historic third season troubles, has taken a look at his general demeanor (and that of the squad) and has decided he won't be around much longer and so isn't worth investing in.
Fine. But you have to sack him then. As it is, it looks as though the decision has been taken to simply write this season off and sort things out next year, which is ludicrous.
Good post.
Apart from Willian and Sandro there are really no alternatives in those positions and those two are not moving clubs. We will get another cb i believe, so we will have addressed 3 out of 5 positions while we got a top player in January too. Also defensive wise even the wing positions are fine its attacking width wise they are lacking which is an issue but a better transition with a good Ball playing Cb will fix some attacking issues, so its not totally bad though not perfect.
Luckhurst is full of shit. Are you telling me if Bale had pushed for a move for example and was available for £90 million or so Woodward wouldn't have bitten Madrids hand off? As Stones says, the issue isn't that the money isn't there – it's that the club doesn't want to be held to ransom for players of a certain perceived level. Mourinho on the other hand could care less what we pay, he just wants the players he wants.
Then why give him a contract extension in January itself?
Luckhurst flapping his chops in all directions there.
We've been overpaying for mediocrity for too long now. Mourinho will have to coach his way out of trouble - shock horror.
We've been overpaying for mediocrity for too long now. Mourinho will have to coach his way out of trouble - shock horror.
Was there this air of negativity around the club when he renewed? Don't recall the timings but midway through season things still seemed ok?
Yeah, but the issue is that the market is going crazy. If we do not want to spend money, we have to trust scouts and buy younger, less known, players. The Dalot purchase is a good example of that. Sadly, Jose is not the manager to develop younger players.
If we don’t sign anyone on the basis that the club believe Mourinho should do better with what he already has, they can be both simultaneously be right that he should be doing better and also wildly optimistic to expect him to do better with a bunch of players that he believes are not good enough and who have largely proven him right. Either way, we’re tossing away another season. Fred alone won’t fix what’s ailed us for the last couple of seasons.
I’m pretty indifferent to Mourinho but I struggle to understand what the point would be in choosing him as your manager and then not giving him the tools he needs to do the job. And if we’ve somehow gotten the idea that the market will normalise itself then I suspect that’ll also be proven to be wildly misguided.
I’m pretty indifferent to Mourinho but I struggle to understand what the point would be in choosing him as your manager and then not giving him the tools he needs to do the job. And if we’ve somehow gotten the idea that the market will normalise itself then I suspect that’ll also be proven to be wildly misguided.
Wait so there are no good LB or RW other than those two? Seems a stretch. Off the top of my head, Barcelona have already signed on RW who seems a better option than Willian.
We bought Sanchez in January, that was our marquee signing of the year.
TBH It all went to shit after he signed that extension, things were going quite well up to that point.
Clearly aimed to earn a good severance deal and now he's on the path to a quick sacking. Easy money.
I think the issue is simple. The board don't feel they have got value for money from the 350m+ they have given him. So they aren't going to break the bank for players they feel aren't top tier or who the scouts feel aren't top tier.
If Mourinho had mounted a serious challenge last season with his signings playing out of their skin, I have no doubt they would have gone out of their way to give him what he wants.
How are there no alternates??? That's crazy. We literally don't have a right winger. Why not just buy Dembele or Malcolm or Pulisic or Maximin or Bailey. Only Dembele would be difficult or expensive.
Not what Mourinho likes to work with, No. We have already tried with Mkh. Right workhorses are rare to find and we have them in our squad itself with Young and Valencia.
2 trophies + the decent-ish football in the first half of the season during the 4-0 FC period had convinced Ed that we were onto something under Jose. It was when he started demanding Perisic, Willian and other players the board didn't fancy + the dull football that the wheels came off.
So for what reason of the recent contract extension then? Giving compensation away?
I suppose. I'm just finding myself more and more disinterested in Jose's United. Would have been good to see a new attack minded coach coming in this summer to be honest. Someone who would get the most out of our flair players and actually target interesting players this summer. It's shocking that for a team with a dynsfunctional attack for 5 years, the only attacker we've been linked with is bloody Willian. Madness.
Fine. If that's the case they can look forward to empty seats and massive protests.
Ultimately it doesn't matter who is to blame - the net result is the same for us fans.
In that case the manager needs to have a wider imagination or find a new job.
I just came across a scenario on another thread which I hadn't considered.
My understanding of the rules are that the clubs have to name their 25 man squad when the transfer window shuts. If this is the case and a European team came in and triggered a release clause in a players contract, would you have to finish the season with a 24 man squad?
I suspect that a further problem comes if clubs are holding back unnamed players for sale on the continent. Buying clubs would know you have to sell so value drops.
My understanding of the rules are that the clubs have to name their 25 man squad when the transfer window shuts. If this is the case and a European team came in and triggered a release clause in a players contract, would you have to finish the season with a 24 man squad?
I suspect that a further problem comes if clubs are holding back unnamed players for sale on the continent. Buying clubs would know you have to sell so value drops.
We don't have a natural right winger. Agree on that though we have players who can play there. Those players might bring balance but might not improve the output than what we already have with Mourinhos choice of tactics.
Meltdown McMeltdown
It was way too early and at least on the caf, people were surprised the deal did not wait till summer
Empty seats don't look great on TV, but matchday revenues are proportionally far less significant now than they were in 2005, which means match-going fans are consequently less important to the club than they once were (lack of investment in the stadium is illustrative of this).
If Simon Stone is coming out with that then theres probably no deals coming up. Shockingly poor from the board.
You certainly will.
Hope he shows wider imagination in system preferences.
Are we actually getting a centre back, after weeks of being linked with almost every player in Europe? And why are Darmian and Rojo still here? In fact, I would add Smalling into that question, but some disagree on him. This has become a bit of a nightmare.
Personally don't really blame the board for how they are behaving now but I would still put 90% of the blame on them. Should have done their due diligence before hiring him and if they did, they should have been prepared to go all in. Their actions now tell me they aren't
I think Darmian will be sold in the next couple of weeks, when Valencia is back. Rojo too, still time for both.
Smalling I would never sell.
Also that's why Sadio mane was such a crucial signing which Lvg was right to target, just couldn't make out why we went for mkh instead that summer and let Klopp snatch him.
What were you doing in 2005 when all this was in the offing with the takeover from the leeches in America?
Probably nothing.
And that is why we sit here today waiting for the season with no realistic chance of winning the division and a bleak outlook for the future.
And it's not going to get better my friend. Wake up.
You're expecting less of a meltdown when the season starts?
Good point.
One of the biggest and often overlooked issue is that the signings of bailly and lindeloff haven't worked.
If they did you would have a brand new ball playing cb pship and wouldnt even be wasting time or money on toby a maguire or boatang.
Resources could go elsewhere such as RW and LB.
If they did you would have a brand new ball playing cb pship and wouldnt even be wasting time or money on toby a maguire or boatang.
Resources could go elsewhere such as RW and LB.
I still have high hopes for the two of them. Bailly is a player, but injuries have set him back.
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