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I was very careful not to say anything about our transfer window, but as the days go by I am more and more confident that we won't do anything special and am very pessimistic regarding the season. I really can't see us even competing City let alone winning the league
Of course, there's is still time to fix things
 
Very strange transfer window. It feels like clubs are waiting on each other to do business. 2 weeks ago I thought we would sign two more players but now I think it's only going to be one.
 
What I said back on 10 July. This is basically what you are now saying in that thread you’ve created @sunama

Yep.
Well the theory has a whole lot of logic to it.

As we saw with Arsenal, their owners made more money finishing 4th and spending little on transfers, than had they spent big, in pursuit of 1st place.
I previously stated that Arsenal supporters were not supporting a football club, but were supporting a business. The aim being to make the most amount of profit.
I do fear that we are heading down that path and that they needed a manager who could help implement this plan (ie. spend little, but still get results) and in Jose, they feel that they have got their man. Jose's not happy, which is why we hear him moaning.

5 days left and it doesn't look like we are going to sign anybody.
 
Looks like we just signed Reece Devine from City. Youth player . At least we're making progress there.
 
Yep.
Well the theory has a whole lot of logic to it.

As we saw with Arsenal, their owners made more money finishing 4th and spending little on transfers, than had they spent big, in pursuit of 1st place.
I previously stated that Arsenal supporters were not supporting a football club, but were supporting a business. The aim being to make the most amount of profit.
I do fear that we are heading down that path and that they needed a manager who could help implement this plan (ie. spend little, but still get results) and in Jose, they feel that they have got their man. Jose's not happy, which is why we hear him moaning.

5 days left and it doesn't look like we are going to sign anybody.
Signing Pogba and Lukaku for those amounts invalidates your point. We could have achieved top 4 far more cheaply.
 
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The optimist in me says this (and again, this is the rose-tinted optimist, who is trying to enjoy summer, not get too worked up about football, one who is enjoying the single life, etc....): this off-season could be 2006 all over again. A sensible, if unglamourous midfield signing to boost a squad with a number of young players ready for lift-off, and a veteran or two poised for comeback years.

So for Carrick, read Fred; Rooney/Ronaldo, read Pogba/Lukaku (by far the most rose-tinted aspect of this); Vidic/Ferdinand, read Lindelof/Bailly; Scholes/Giggs, read Sanchez/Mata; Brown/Evra, read Valencia/Shaw (ok, that is actually the most unrealistic part!)

I have a hard time really believing any of that, but what's the point of a new season, if you can't get excited about it (rose-tinted specs or not)? There are few days more glorious than opening weekend (followed by the blue-balls of international week...)

And maybe, just maybe, Mourinho is playing possum about the whole thing, and Woodward is refusing to allow United to become a transfer-market patsy, one that pays an inflated premium just by virtue of being United. And maybe, we are going to run away with it, and do to Pep, what SAF did to Mourinho, back in that glorious season (by far my favourite as a United supporter.)

Then again, this could just be the first step in our becoming Arsenal. For Lukaku, read RVP; for Pogba, read Diaby....:nervous:
 
The optimist in me says this (and again, this is the rose-tinted optimist, who is trying to enjoy summer, not get too worked up about football, one who is enjoying the single life, etc....): this off-season could be 2006 all over again. A sensible, if unglamourous midfield signing to boost a squad with a number of young players ready for lift-off, and a veteran or two poised for comeback years.

So for Carrick, read Fred; Rooney/Ronaldo, read Pogba/Lukaku (by far the most rose-tinted aspect of this); Vidic/Ferdinand, read Lindelof/Bailly; Scholes/Giggs, read Sanchez/Mata; Brown/Evra, read Valencia/Shaw (ok, that is actually the most unrealistic part!)

I have a hard time really believing any of that, but what's the point of a new season, if you can't get excited about it (rose-tinted specs or not)? There are few days more glorious than opening weekend (followed by the blue-balls of international week...)

And maybe, just maybe, Mourinho is playing possum about the whole thing, and Woodward is refusing to allow United to become a transfer-market patsy, one that pays an inflated premium just by virtue of being United. And maybe, we are going to run away with it, and do to Pep, what SAF did to Mourinho, back in that glorious season (by far my favourite as a United supporter.)

Then again, this could just be the first step in our becoming Arsenal. For Lukaku, read RVP; for Pogba, read Diaby....:nervous:

That's a lot of optimism!
 
People keep saying we need a CB, why?

RW, I agree, maybe a LB too.

Not conceding first is key to Jose's teams in big games, and our leaky defense flopped in key moments during big occasions last season. A stable centre back pairing who can pass the ball from the back and improve our transition on the ball will also be key to our build up on the ball, with a solid centre-back pairing who does not get concede first against top oppositions.

Left back also needed, but our target is not exactly available when Ronaldo moves to that club we wanted to buy from.
 
Very strange transfer window. It feels like clubs are waiting on each other to do business. 2 weeks ago I thought we would sign two more players but now I think it's only going to be one.

Don't think clubs are waiting. It's probably because there is not much out there.
 
Actually think we’ll sign no one now.
Unless we’re at an advanced stage with Spurs for Toby A then dealing with Levy in a short space of time seems impossible
 
This seems like a big issue for people who aren't happy with how your window has gone. I wonder if it would impact how the mood is if we'd not been very active this summer?

I would hazard a guess that the mood would probably be the same.

I think we have had an average transfer window, so far. But I cant say that LFC's transfer window has had much of an impact on me, but then I am used to LFC signing multiple players in summer transfer window's, I am also used to the Scouse boom bust cycle.
 
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If we are moving to a 352 formation then Sessegnon would have been a fantastic signing for the left wing back role. I can see him making that position his own for England over the next year.
 
Actually think we’ll sign no one now.
Unless we’re at an advanced stage with Spurs for Toby A then dealing with Levy in a short space of time seems impossible

I’ve felt this way for about a month now mate. There’s been absolutely no urgency from the club to strengthen the team.
 
We still have a lot of improving to do with this team without looking at transfers, so that's a positive.

Fred can also help us a lot. We don't know how well he will start out, but he looks like someone who will help us transition from defence to attack faster.

Dalot is a big talent so he will be exciting to watch, could even become a starter if Valencia continues having injury issues.

I expected more from the window (probably a lot more), but i'm still positive we can improve this season and do something great. Let's see.
 
cant for the life of me imagine we are only bringing in a CB next week? we are desperate for a RW as well as a back up striker,will be amazed if we only make the one signing,this summer will be just one big statement of zero intent from us!
 
Any transfer from here on will be unjustifiably over priced, I don't know whats happening and I don't want to moan anymore, lets just get the season started the lack of football is killing me
 
I’ve felt this way for about a month now mate. There’s been absolutely no urgency from the club to strengthen the team.
I was so excited when the WC finished I was thinking “here we fecking go” floodgates will open, we’ll make some big signings like we have the last two summer windows, but bam nothing. Can the board/manager see we are crying out for new full backs and a fecking right winger? I bet even lukaku was begging for some service from the right.

All we seems to be linked with is centre backs!! Yeah we could do with a commanding ball playing centre half but surely we have more pressing issues on our flanks?

City is City
Liverpool strengthened and looking strong
Chelsea new manager they’ll be better this season no doubt
Spurs will be strong no matter what they do
Arsenal new manager, will do better than last season in my opinion
Us can see no other alternative than a similar season than last

Either deadline day is extremely exciting or it’s Moyes summer window quashed into one day

Urgh
 
Anyone else feeling that we might have a hectic (and not necessarily successful) transfer deadline day ? I have the day off work:wenger:

The feeling i have is that of "no activity". The transfer deadline will pass and eventually Jose will state that we tried to buy players, but couldn't, so we shall do our best with the current squad.
If he makes 4th place, he'll have done well and with the money saved, the club owners will be able to buy themselves a new yacht/mansion.
If it means anything, we'll certainly make huge profits, given our lack of spending this Summer. I'm sure that there are some fans on here who value profit, over football.
 
Any transfer from here on will be unjustifiably over priced, I don't know whats happening and I don't want to moan anymore, lets just get the season started the lack of football is killing me

Exactly!
Now, if you and I can work this out, why does Woodward have difficulty understanding this?
He should've tied up all the deals before the WC, even it meant paying an extra £5M. If he buys now, he'll probably need to overpay by £10M+.

The other way of thinking is that maybe we did complete all our business before the WC :eek:
 
Exactly!
Now, if you and I can work this out, why does Woodward have difficulty understanding this?
He should've tied up all the deals before the WC, even it meant paying an extra £5M. If he buys now, he'll probably need to overpay by £10M+.

The other way of thinking is that maybe we did complete all our business before the WC :eek:

Nope, we didn't do shit, twas after watching the WC we got interested in Maguire
 
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The feeling i have is that of "no activity". The transfer deadline will pass and eventually Jose will state that we tried to buy players, but couldn't, so we shall do our best with the current squad.
If he makes 4th place, he'll have done well and with the money saved, the club owners will be able to buy themselves a new yacht/mansion.
If it means anything, we'll certainly make huge profits, given our lack of spending this Summer. I'm sure that there are some fans on here who value profit, over football.

I know that you and I don’t always see eye to eye when it comes to our manager, but I’m in total agreement with you here mate.
 
I've not really followed this transfer window closely. Can anyone clarify, have we even attempted to sign some quality in attack, specifically the right wing which has carried absolutely no threat for about 5 years?

To me it seems our major weakness during Van Gaal and Mourinho's time has been scoring goals/creating chances/fluency in attack.

Having a look it seems Jose is desperate for a centre back, which is odd considering he's already signed 2 in his time here (he needs to take some responsiblity for failed signings instead of blaming the board). Is another centre back going to be the key to closing that massive gap between us and City?
 
I've not really followed this transfer window closely. Can anyone clarify, have we even attempted to sign some quality in attack, specifically the right wing which has carried absolutely no threat for about 5 years?

To me it seems our major weakness during Van Gaal and Mourinho's time has been scoring goals/creating chances/fluency in attack.

Having a look it seems Jose is desperate for a centre back, which is odd considering he's already signed 2 in his time here (he needs to take some responsiblity for failed signings instead of blaming the board). Is another centre back going to be the key to closing that massive gap between us and City?
Yes .We don't create enough chances and we don't score enough goals. Under Fergie we were a free flowing attacking team but in recent times the football has become unwatchable because we suck at putting the ball in the back of the net. We needed wingers this season to help with creating more chances. Not only a RW but also LW too. There are NO wingers in this team. Mata and Lingard are not good enough and lack understanding of the role. Martial and Rashford have the movement and instincts of strikers. They can't create but need other players to create the majority of chances. Sanchez tries to create but he's not that good at it. Lukaku is our best crosser and I'd suggest if we aren't going to buy wingers to put him on the RW as a stop gap option otherwise we aren't going to score the goals we need to catch up with Man City and even Liverpool. Our strike force is the weakest of the top teams imo. I'm not sure where the goals will come from.
 
Remember those days when we said we would burst into action and make 2 or 3 signings when the WC was over....ahhh I remember those exciting days

5 days to go and still no news not even any actual solid links with anyone.
 
What do you guys think will happen before the 9th if you had to put money on it?

My feeling is:

- Darmian will be sold between 10m to 15m Euros
- Rojo will leave for 20m-25m Euros, including bonuses
- We will massively overpay for Alderweireld. I would say above 50m pounds including bonuses.
- Willian and Martial swap will happen. Which will be veryy disappointing.

Although, there will be no excuses left if Jose gets Alderweireld and Willian. We'll have win either the league or the champions league next season, or it will be a massive failure. With the collection of 30 year olds (Matic, Fellani, Mata, Young, Valencia, Alderweireld & Willian) there cannot be an excuse of time to "grow". Everything will have to be achieved in the next couple of years.

Call me an ageist - I am not comfortable having so many 30+ players in the key make-up of our team. I hope I am wrong with my prediction and the actual business we do is the acquisition of Maguire and Pulisic.
 
What do you guys think will happen before the 9th if you had to put money on it?

My feeling is:

- Darmian will be sold between 10m to 15m Euros
- Rojo will leave for 20m-25m Euros, including bonuses
- We will massively overpay for Alderweireld. I would say above 50m pounds including bonuses.
- Willian and Martial swap will happen. Which will be veryy disappointing.

Although, there will be no excuses left if Jose gets Alderweireld and Willian. We'll have win either the league or the champions league next season, or it will be a massive failure. With these collection of 30 year olds (Matic, Fellani, Mata, Young, Valencia, Alderweireld & Willian) there cannot be an excuse of time to "grow". Everything will have to be achieved in the next couple of years.

Call me an ageist - I am not comfortable having so many 30+ players in the key make-up of our team. I hope I am wrong with my prediction and the actual business we do is the acquisition of Maguire and Pulisic.

1. Darmian back to Italy
2. Rojo to be sold.
3. Martial to stay as no one will pay his fee + we won't sell inside the PL.
4. Toby signs for 50+10 in easy bonuses.
5. No LB or RW player bought.
 
Yes .We don't create enough chances and we don't score enough goals. Under Fergie we were a free flowing attacking team but in recent times the football has become unwatchable because we suck at putting the ball in the back of the net. We needed wingers this season to help with creating more chances. Not only a RW but also LW too. There are NO wingers in this team. Mata and Lingard are not good enough and lack understanding of the role. Martial and Rashford have the movement and instincts of strikers. They can't create but need other players to create the majority of chances. Sanchez tries to create but he's not that good at it. Lukaku is our best crosser and I'd suggest if we aren't going to buy wingers to put him on the RW as a stop gap option otherwise we aren't going to score the goals we need to catch up with Man City and even Liverpool. Our strike force is the weakest of the top teams imo. I'm not sure where the goals will come from.

Not sure if serious :wenger:

What do you guys think will happen before the 9th if you had to put money on it?

My feeling is:

- Darmian will be sold between 10m to 15m Euros
- Rojo will leave for 20m-25m Euros, including bonuses
- We will massively overpay for Alderweireld. I would say above 50m pounds including bonuses.
- Willian and Martial swap will happen. Which will be veryy disappointing.

Although, there will be no excuses left if Jose gets Alderweireld and Willian. We'll have win either the league or the champions league next season, or it will be a massive failure. With the collection of 30 year olds (Matic, Fellani, Mata, Young, Valencia, Alderweireld & Willian) there cannot be an excuse of time to "grow". Everything will have to be achieved in the next couple of years.

Call me an ageist - I am not comfortable having so many 30+ players in the key make-up of our team. I hope I am wrong with my prediction and the actual business we do is the acquisition of Maguire and Pulisic.

Errr, has something got in the water?
 
Interesting piece from Andy Mitten
http://www.espn.co.uk/football/club...-out-of-time-to-boost-manchester-united-squad

Seems to me that the financial power in the Premier League means you can't buy easily from them, and every other league doubles its prices when a PL team comes calling. It makes no financial sense to blow silly money on potentially past their peak players. As Mitten says, it has to be a youth development thing. Buy the best players you can get in the 16 to 19 range and then do your best to mature them along with home growns.
There aren't only two alternatives being either signing players past their peaks or additions to the youth academy. Barcelona have signed Arthur, Lenglet and Malcom for around 90 million pounds or so. Liverpool signed Salah last season for relatively small fee. Arsenal signed possibly a very good player in Torriera for a decent fee.

And sometimes you have to overpay and it makes sense to do so. No one here would have cared had we spent 60 million on Mahrez because he's an excellent player who would have improved us immensely.
 
Utd transfers aren't so easy to call and the last couple of big ones, I was convinced Rom was going to Chelsea and Sanchez was going to City. I think Toby will be here next week but I suspect there's gonna be another with Martial going the opposite way. Maybe Martial and Jose aren't too bothered with what either thinks or says as they both know the outcome?

Got a funny feeling we might go 352 if we sign Toby so the need for FB's will be different if we go with that formation.
 
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Utd transfers aren't so easy to call and the last couple of big ones, I was convinced Rom was going to Chelsea and Sanchez was going to City. I think Toby will be here next week but I suspect there's gonna be another with Martial going the opposite way. Maybe Martial and Jose aren't too bothered with what either thinks or says as they both know the outcome?

Got a funny feeling we might go 352 if we sign Toby so the need for FB's will be different if we go with that formation.


I quite like the thought of lindalof, Bailly and Alderweireld as our back 3. If they can stay fit that’s a very solid back line.
 
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