Seems like we are holding out for first choices, playing a dangerous game. I think Bale is holding many things up. He's not coming but United are holding out like some desperate jilted lover. Our transfer policy looks unfocused as usual. We need to wait and see until the window closes but getting business done late is always a bad sign. Well run clubs usually get 2 or 3 in early, embed then in early to the squad and ready for the new season. Three weeks and there is much to do. We need 3 but we'll be lucky to get 2 no in my opinion. We don't look prepared for the new season at all. Can't even get Sanchez in to the US, becoming concerning.
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That will require Jose to change tactically though, and that is the vital component.
No idea why we are not in for Moussa Dembele as a midfield option, he clearly wants to leave Spurs.
Because he's old and injury prone? The time to buy that Dembele passed a long time ago.
This is the sort of post which makes me hate the fact that the transfer window is closing early - we will be missing out on an extra month of this type of BS/ paranoia/ overreacting.
We ARE putting our faith in a 35 year old goalkeeper - to be THIRD choice and allow our young keepers to go out on loan and gain experience.
Nah I can't see any signings happening at this point. Does Jose even know what he wants or is he just going into next season with the intent of getting sacked and paid off (I'm aware this sounds dramatic).
Well, we did... But yes, it would be crucial to make a couple of high quality signings.
I agree with you in regards to Sanchez, can't judge Sanchez too soon. If you asked me last summer if I would take Perisic in the current summer window or wait till the January window to sign Sanchez, I would choose the latter and want us to sign Sanchez and wait till January. I think Sanchez will come good this season, however, he needs a good pre-season but his VISA issues and not being allowed in the United States is a slight concern if you ask me, he needs to be able to train with the players! Hopefully that gets sorted sooner rather than later.
As for Bale, I would find it crazy that Bale would decide to stay based on a 'promise' of gametime. What if Lopetegui changes his mind early in the season and doesn't start him? I think it's quite obvious that Bale would rather stay at Madrid, as long as he is playing that is and that United and Jose would love Bale at United and would be willing to negotiate a deal if he does become available. If Lopetegui isn't 100% convinced on Bale and doesn't intend on starting him every game, then surely it would make more sense to sell for good money so they can get other targets like Hazard/Neymar/Mbappe? Saying that, I think he will stay at Madrid and they will sign a big name without selling Bale.
Perisic I think was the one Jose wanted to play LW last season but since we have signed Sanchez I don't think we are after him now. Perisic can play RW but from what I have seen and hear, he is better on the left.
Yeah. This "rubbish" team finished second comfortably despite having an attack that did not function for 2/3 of the entire campaign.
I agree that it requires Mourinho to change approach to get the best out of our attackers. The thing is signing new players doesn't ensure that happens either. Both of them have to happen for us to successfully challenge City.
I can't imagine a team having Matic, Fred, Pogba, Lukaku, Martial and Sanchez in their pomp not challenging for the title.
I want more quality but Mourinho's biggest priority remains getting the best out of his most gifted players.
But if, as you claim, we are holding out for Bale, then it would appear our policy is actually too focused, albeit in the wrong direction.
We're never signing anyone ever again by the looks of it.
It's been so long I don't think my muppet juices work anymore.
It's been so long I don't think my muppet juices work anymore.
We’re chasing City and are a long way behind. We’re short everywhere really - City have so many attacking options, which really count over a season.
I think it’s a make or break year for Mourinho, and I can’t see us closing the gap without having more options up front. It’s a situation now where it’s better to have too many players and have a manager who knows how to keep them happy, than too few.
We’re too reliant on Lukaku, who blows too hot and cold to be a league winning striker.
What’s our plan B if Lukaku is out or off form? I guess it involves switching Rashford from wing to centre, which is unfair on him.
City won the title by coping without one or both of Aguero and Jesus at various times last year - they’ve the options to just keep rolling over the 38 games.
I think it’s a make or break year for Mourinho, and I can’t see us closing the gap without having more options up front. It’s a situation now where it’s better to have too many players and have a manager who knows how to keep them happy, than too few.
We’re too reliant on Lukaku, who blows too hot and cold to be a league winning striker.
What’s our plan B if Lukaku is out or off form? I guess it involves switching Rashford from wing to centre, which is unfair on him.
City won the title by coping without one or both of Aguero and Jesus at various times last year - they’ve the options to just keep rolling over the 38 games.
Don't think it's only "getting depressing", you are way more advanced than that I'd think that Willian and Chelsea would prefer Barca over us. Willian is a very decent player and in an area that we really need. Not my first choice either, but at the right price he'd be a solid transfer. He turns 30 in a month and Chelsea reportedly want £60m+ for him, so I'm not sure that'd be the best business.
Do Ed and the board realise that we don't have until September to complete transfers, and really have 3 weeks to get players in? With the exception of the Fred transfer, this feels like the window before the Moyes season.
Really disappointing, especially given how clinical we've appeared the last two summer windows at least. If we go into next season without adding a right-winger or another wing-back I can't see us challenging on any meaningful front. An experienced, ball-playing centre back would be good too - although at this point, I can't see us getting in 3 more players.
Really disappointing, especially given how clinical we've appeared the last two summer windows at least. If we go into next season without adding a right-winger or another wing-back I can't see us challenging on any meaningful front. An experienced, ball-playing centre back would be good too - although at this point, I can't see us getting in 3 more players.
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3 weeks left and let's be honest we are no better off than last season. So far we have signed
Dalot
Grant
Fred
Fellaini
Is that the business done?
Dalot
Grant
Fred
Fellaini
Is that the business done?
I think it is, we will sell Pogba and De Gea as well, Grant will be our number 1 and we will be in a relegation battle. Depressing season ahead
Top 4. Setting the bar low nice and early eh? Some of the teams you're tipping to finish ahead of us havent even outspent us so how does it make sense to use spending as a reason to possibly finish below them?
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I think it is, we will sell Pogba and De Gea as well, Grant will be our number 1 and we will be in a relegation battle. Depressing season ahead
De Gea will stay, Pogba is a possibility to leave. Where is our new LB, RW and another CM?
My point is a well run club has proper planning in place. They shouldn't need more than 3 signings, it should be all negotiated during the season and completed at the start of the window. United went in to this window needing 5 signings in my opinion. Dalot is a backup and not a first team player yet. Grant doesn't even count and that leaves our only first team signing Fred. United seem to be more opportunistic as in if someone good comes available, they will just try and get them. This is fine if the main issues are addressed but they haven't been. Bale is keeping his options open for guarantees of playing time. He doesn't want to move from Real, he just wants us as a backup. We should be identifying players that want to come here. Then getting the business done and the player in. It's a right mess with contracts at the club too. United are being badly run on the football side of things. It's infuriating as the club are bringing in so much money off the pitch.
A highly rated midfielder in Fred has made us no better off than last season. Let me guess you've never watched him play and are basing everything off that one poster in the Fred thread that watches Ukranian football and said to not expect him to start games because it's a big jump.
There won't be any. Lazy Woodie is busy watching tennis and stuff instead of working... What a shambles. lol
I think it is, we will sell Pogba and De Gea as well, Grant will be our number 1 and we will be in a relegation battle. Depressing season ahead
I don’t think we’ll sell them, just not play them. They’ll be in the stands with Martial and all our CB’s, while we play Chong and Gomes at the back.
We will get relegated, and Alan Hansen will say it’s because Mourinho only likes old, tall, defensive muscle men and you’ll win nothing without kids.
As it stands I see us as 3rd at best.
City are obviously light years ahead of us and have strengthened further with Mahrez so far (a player we could have done with!)
Liverpool would probably have finished ahead of us last season if they weren’t focusing on the Champions League as the season went on. And they have strengthened greatly with instant improvements in Fabinho, Keita and squad depth in Shaqiri. I expect them to add a goalkeeper and this is VVD's first full season.
We have only really upgraded Herrera to Fred and even that is not yet certain as to whether it is an upgrade as he’s unproven at the top level.
City are obviously light years ahead of us and have strengthened further with Mahrez so far (a player we could have done with!)
Liverpool would probably have finished ahead of us last season if they weren’t focusing on the Champions League as the season went on. And they have strengthened greatly with instant improvements in Fabinho, Keita and squad depth in Shaqiri. I expect them to add a goalkeeper and this is VVD's first full season.
We have only really upgraded Herrera to Fred and even that is not yet certain as to whether it is an upgrade as he’s unproven at the top level.
No way.
Fabinho and Keita are instant improvements but Fred is still unproven. hmmmm...
What's the tag for?
Buying more quality is not simple at all. Further more what use is quality when everyone we sign turns to average with us. We aren't a team at all, just a collection of expensive individuals. Being more of a unit is an improvement itself.
Believe me I know we'll be a boring boring team under Mourinho. Never wanted him here and as much as I want to I can't seem to like him at all. So you can guess I'm in the 'implosion season' camp.
We've seen Young and Valencia for a long time, yet in this 2 seasons here Mourinho has hardly attempted to bring/try somebody new till Dalot. They are his trusted players.
it's obvious isn't it
rest of transfer window: no signings
Jose on the eve of start of season: makes
remarks about squad laden with sarcasm
we start the season well and all is good
we get a few poor results and Jose goes from passive aggressive to full blown nasty grumpy arsehole bemoaning the lack of signings and slagging off this year's scapegoats
hope I am wrong
rest of transfer window: no signings
Jose on the eve of start of season: makes
remarks about squad laden with sarcasm
we start the season well and all is good
we get a few poor results and Jose goes from passive aggressive to full blown nasty grumpy arsehole bemoaning the lack of signings and slagging off this year's scapegoats
hope I am wrong
Have i missed something, why are people talking about Pogba being sold?
It's a bit of fun?
You did your main business in January.
Should we just set up a special Samaritans phone number for members of red cafe?
To add to the hysteria
I expect 1 or maybe 2 more signings. A CB or RW/ST. Wouldn't be surprised to see none either.
I actually think we are in a good position with the squad we have. I basically consider Sanchez as a summer signing. He was purchased in January as a way to make sure we didn't miss out on him In the summer.
Fred
Dalot
Sanchez
Grant
Pereira
These are all going to be with us for the start of the season. That's great news. If we sell Darmian another fullback will be good. But I honestly think we will be great this year.
Also let's remember Fred (highly rated midfielder) is taking the spot of Carrick who never played much if at all last season for us. That's great news
Fred
Dalot
Sanchez
Grant
Pereira
These are all going to be with us for the start of the season. That's great news. If we sell Darmian another fullback will be good. But I honestly think we will be great this year.
Also let's remember Fred (highly rated midfielder) is taking the spot of Carrick who never played much if at all last season for us. That's great news
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