Wot, no transfers? It's all happening now!

Guessing now that fans can’t return next week, and possibly not for 6 more months, English clubs probably won’t want to spend anything?
 
It's become far to apparent top4 and CL football is the short term goal and the owners are probably be happy with. Not the fans or Ole or the players will be happy with. United as a brand has been financially strong since Ed took the helm. Signing sponsor after sponsor and bringing in large money from Nike, Adidas, and Chevrolet. Then comes the news about Chevrolet not being happy about the deal they gave United. That looks to be ending and we haven't heard about any other sponsors for some time. Now we have COVID to contend with. Companies are tightening their wallets and we're going to lose sponsor revenue for sure. That will trickle down to the money we can spend on players, no doubt. We've had the same cycle since SAF retired.

Moyes - 2 signings lost CL
LVG - 7 signings got CL
LVG - 7 signings lost CL, won FA Cup
Jose - 4 signings got CL by winning EL
Jose - 3 signings got CL by finishing 2nd
Jose - 1 signing sacked by December, despite a charge by Ole, missed top4, No CL
Ole - 3 signings got CL
Ole - 1 signing so far. With other teams strengthening CL with what we have will be a very tough task for any manager.

Notice a pattern?

feck me that needs to be made into a graphic. Clearly shows by season the effect of not improving the squad.
 
Jesus still nobody when we need at least 3 players to really try to improve.


Ole really bis being fecked. Well that's another manager gone and champions league too if I'm to predict what will happen.
 
How much has our board affected your enjoyment of the sport?

For me winning has become less important than just having a functional board with competent people at our club.

Our club has become the laughing stock of football, irrelevant of results at this point.

I'm really starting to not enjoy football at all anymore. It's a bit weird.
 
On field success or the lackof in the past 5 years doesn't affect the commerical side of the club. I can understand why Man Utd is reluctant to do any 100M deal under pandemic. What i don't understand is why it is so hard to bring in anyone under 50M to improve the team. Leon Bailey, Marcus Thuram, Moussa Diaby are all good young players to look at too.
 
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What these fecktards (Woodword and Co) don't realise is how important momentum and perception is in football and not just for the fanbase or the rest of the outside world but also clearly for the squad (and management teams) morale. You come off what was looking like a disastrous season half way through ending up 3rd and do absolutely nothing to grab that chance to build on that and push on IMMEDIATELY. Lets face it, we got 3rd by the skin or our teeth in the end and had there been more games given our form it probably wouldn't have lasted. The initial push and our great form after the break had clearly gone and we had no backup to our first eleven. However all that being said we actually manage to get 3rd and then what....nothing, absolutely nothing. And this is what these bean counters dont seem to understand, football is all about momentum and perception, signing Sancho in the following few weeks was actually critical. It would have sent a clear message to everyone both outside and inside our club that we mean to build on (what was very shaken ground) the good work in the seasons end and capitalise on this opportunity of finishing in the top 3. Some pundits and journalists had us for a title push next season at that stage all based on getting Sancho (and a few other key additions.) But no we dragged our heels for no reason and have let it get to the stage where the media, our fan base and ultimately our team and staff have lost any bit of momentum gained and we are again back to step 1 again in trying to rebuild. And as others have pointed out its got to the stage even that if we actually manage to get the additions we want there is so much negative energy and pressure now that the net result is they won't even have the same effect as if we'd signed them early in the window when everything was looking positive, they 'd be effectively coming into a different type of team now then it was then. It's all just beyond idiotic really.
Very good post this, I suspect some people will skip over it because of no paragraphs, however.
 
How much has our board affected your enjoyment of the sport?

For me winning has become less important than just having a functional board with competent people at our club.

Our club has become the laughing stock of football, irrelevant of results at this point.

I'm really starting to not enjoy football at all anymore. It's a bit weird.

Yeah I know exactly what you mean mate and we really have become the laughing stock of football particularly when it comes to transfers, it certainly explains why we get a Utd tax on anyone we try to sign whereas other teams have top notch negotiators who ensure they pay fair prices for players.
 
After Palace...
"We're always, always looking to improve if there's something out there that's available to the right price. We always want to strengthen"
After Luton....
"We're working with the ones we have right now. Let's see what happens. We'll give you updates if there is something"

Sounds to me as though Ole has been 'told off' and it doesn't sound like he is optimistic about any new signings....
 
Feels like there is someone with my character handling Utd's transfers business.

If I get a deadline, I will postpone until it's almost impossible to finish the assignment.
But I think about it all the time, as they do with their monitoring and preparing of bids that never come until it's too late.
 
The thing is, I can understand that we might be skint but by not investing further in the 1st team and we miss out on CL once again and generally have another shit season then we will only devalue the club thereby losing the Glazers even more money.
I would seriously like to have Zaha back at this stage if we can't afford Sancho. He is strong and able to hold the ball up, can take someone on, and I think he would thrive with Martial, Greenwood and Bruno. I would also like a decent CB who is fast and dependable in 1v1 situations (rules out Lindelöf), and does not have massive brain farts when passing the ball (rules out Bailly). Finally I really really want a left back who is able to cross the ball, like Reguilon...but not him obviously.
 
How much has our board affected your enjoyment of the sport?

For me winning has become less important than just having a functional board with competent people at our club.

Our club has become the laughing stock of football, irrelevant of results at this point.

I'm really starting to not enjoy football at all anymore. It's a bit weird.

Same here.
 

That's a remarkably tone deaf take if true. "Appreciative of the difficulties" - we are. But 1 in and 0 out? Not even COVID can excuse that. Other clubs managed to sell/get rid of players, and even buy some.
 
That's a remarkably tone deaf take if true. "Appreciative of the difficulties" - we are. But 1 in and 0 out? Not even COVID can excuse that. Other clubs managed to sell/get rid of players, and even buy some.
How dare you question Woodward and Judge, it is one in and one out actually.
 

The majority wouldnt have complained and would have been ok if we moved on to other targets quickly and completed our transfer business earlier if we knew we can't afford Sancho. Its the fact that we kept going after Sancho despite having no intention of paying the price required for him, and missing out on every alternative and signing nobody else.
 
Remember, we see MUFC as a sports club that should be aiming to be the very best. The owners see MUFC as a business that just needs to perform well enough for them to be able to continue to use it as a cash cow.
 
Trust the process? Finish top 4, sign 1 player and trust the process?

I really want to know what the clubs hierarchy are smoking?
 
On field success or the lackof in the past 5 years doesn't affect the commerical side of the club. I can understand why Man Utd is reluctant to do any 100M deal under pandemic. What i don't understand is why it is so hard to bring in anyone under 50M to improve the team. Leon Bailey, Marcus Thuram, Moussa Diaby are all good young players to look at too.
I agree with you, yes Sancho looks a world better but united used to thrive on finding hidden talents and developing them. We need to go back to those days. I say take a chance on Hudson odoi, a great talent who would potential thrive as our rw. There has to be players that can improve us at an acceptable price.
 
"be more appreciative of the difficulties"....
Gasps....!!
That's an absolutely scandalous comment to make, and this comes from a PR chief...??

The only difficulties are being fcuking incompetent at doing your grossly overpaid paid jobs..!!
 
They absolutely crap all over the fan base, left right and centre. They literally don’t give a feck!
 
I am speechless at this point.
Along with West Ham and Burnley we are the only team to sign just one player. Everyone else signed more players. Aston Villa, Leeds, Everton and Wolves have spent more.
Whatever. What can you say.
 
Guessing now that fans can’t return next week, and possibly not for 6 more months, English clubs probably won’t want to spend anything?

Too late, English clubs have already spent bundles.

We are the canny ones, only United will have money to spend from January onwards & we'll hoover up all the best talent at knockdown prices and win everything going forward.

You guys just wait and see! :devil:
 
They’ve pushed the publication of financial results until after the transfer window closes apparently. It was supposed to be end of the month.
I was just going to post. I wonder if it's influenced by the market not being closed yet. There's maybe an element of 'not showing our hand' while we're still in negotiations and excuses (maybe valid) for not spending after the window closes.
 

They’re taking the piss at this point. They’ve had since football died back in March to get their asses in gear. Most clubs are working on things all year round.

You know with us though we’ll have waited until we beat Leicester to ensure that sweet CL cheque was on the way first. Either scenario reflects poorly on the club though, either they’re dithering idiots who need 7 months to do more than one deal, or they care more about money than what the team needs.

As for us fans not understanding, what is there to understand? Chelsea secured champions league football the same day as us, and have signed about 6 players with more on the way. All players who will improve them. So why is it then that the biggest club in the world, a club who in Woodward’s own words “can do things in the transfer market other clubs can only dream of”, find it so hard to do business?

It’s not like we’ve spent time arranging the sale of our deadwood. If time was spent on this area you may have some sympathy. But we’ve got Romero, Dalot, Rojo, Jones, Smalling, Lingard and Pereira all surplus to requirements, and the season has started with them all still here. Perhaps the most bizarre of the lot is Chris Smalling, a player who wants to move to Roma, Roma want to sign him, and we want to sell him. But we’re even making that look hard. I understand that with Jones or Rojo they’re probably still around because no-one is interested, but we can’t even shift the players who have multiple clubs enquiring about them! So with all of them still here, what have we actually been doing all this time?

Each year since 2013 we find ourselves in the same position, and each year the board fails to back the manager. And then they have the balls to turn round and say we don’t understand?
 
Such a difficult window according to the chinless muppet, goodness so difficult that Wolves have signed 5 decent players and shipped out a similar number. Think that says a lot more about the underlying ability of Woodward and Judge than anything else.

Absolutely clueless merchant banker accountant types in a football world dominated by people who actually know what they are doing and what’s needed for their club to go forward. Been a sad time since the biggest club in England was manipulated into the hands of people who have no interest in football or the club other than dividends and share value, not the team !!
 
I wouldn't trust these cnuts with a sunday league team. What have you done to deserve any trust? Trust the process. Cretins.
 
Still no news.

We must be skint.

Shame we cant get the deadwood, high earning crew off our books and re-invest.

I expect there will be a signing on loan prob on deadline day to appease us all.