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Wot, no transfers? It's all happening now!
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
until i see otherwise, i'm on the "Sancho-or-Bust" window theory.
Shall we wait until they hold up the shirt first? Disingenuous? I think you forget there are financial restrictions on how much money you can spend especially when you consider the loss in revenue from COVID irrespective of how much money your owners worth. Can't say it enough times, the only way you truly add depth is by improving your first team and those that were in it, drop to the bench. This comes with it own problems for both those players and creates a bottle neck for young players coming through. It's not an easy task. People have amnesia about our previous squad depth even when successful. Yes was better but sorry still a massive drop off. Who would come in for Giggs, Keane, Beckham, Scholes, Stam, Rio, Rooney if any of them were injured?
Utd arent in the same position as Lingard, Mata, Andreas et al aren't starters so even if say we wanted to sign the Dutch dude for 40m, why would he leave Ajax to sit on the bench waiting to see if Bruno or Pogs get injured, or coming on for 15 mins at the end of the game.
Yes there are players that improve our starting 11 but no signings by anyone in European football so far this window starts in our 11.
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So last 3 games? All in different competitions
Pretty much. Thats without going into the manager discussion.
For who?
Sit back and relax, you gain nothing by doing this. Just accumulated frustration.
we could use some good news, effing chelsea are going to trample us next season
There speaks the voice of experience.
Whilst I agree, my point remains the same. Those top players to replace Pogs or Bruno must be willing to understand that they are starting from the bench. I don't know any team that signs those players of that quality who agree to that. Top players come to play with Pogs and Bruno, not to replace them.
Have you watched Sarr play on a regular basis?
The guy has got pace and that is it.
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Unfortunately true.
I agree.
It would be great to have a world class squad but we are not going to spend 40mil on a player unless we view him as a first team player and it is as simple as that. Even more so with us the plan has always been to fill squad roles with our own young players and I cannot see that changing.
Another day, more unlikely bullshit and no real progress or likely rumour...
I think I just threw up in my mouth a bit.
Give over mate. It's football, not some sort of righteous movement where you talk about soul or earning or history and legacy.
One of my greatest wishes is that one day we as a fanbase stop this holier than thou, moral high ground nonsense that is peddled.
I think your wrong on that but hey. Top players would want to play in a strong team/squad. To win a domestic cup and go deep into the CL, on top of the the PL you play 60 or so matches. Bruno as our only good AM will not play 60 matches and will not play 90 minutes in every game. Neither Rashford, Pogba or anyone else! Bringing in a top CB, AM and a RW will just mean we can manage our players better throughout the season in all competitions. Grealish for instance will play enough minutes and so will Bruno. Neither will mind sharing that role. especially when Grealish plays LW too.
Having a strong 16 or so players that could start every game is imperative. It's been said on here too many times that players won't want to come and sit on the bench. Thats not how it works is it. Substitutions are made throughout the game to rest players or to change a game and when the fixtures pile up these players will need to be dropped for their own good. I'm not really sure what your suggesting to be honest. Every club manages there squad like this.
Give Judge and Woodward time because we "might get Sancho" and Henderson will challenge De Gea? Am I having a stroke? wtf does henderson have to do with anything?
Coming back from loan means he's like a new signing. With Pogs likely signing a new contract, technically we've get two new signings thus far
Yeah, he is an asshole, I gotta say. Done some horrible things in the past. Dont know enough of him on everyday basis to judge if he is still an ass in training/off the field though.
Coming back from loan means he's like a new signing. With Pogs likely signing a new contract, technically we've get two new signings thus far
Henderson challenging De Gea = "new signing" has to be the WORST transfer tweet of the window. That is something indykila wouldn't even tweet.
Thiago Silva easily at CB, Chilwell easily at LB, Werner rotate with Martial and Rashford, Ziyech easily on the right. Havertz then would rotate with Pogba and Bruno. Honestly if we signed all 5 of these guys, it wouldn't be overkill for our squad and would give us one that can compete on all levels.
On one hand, I would have liked to have some business wrapped up by now when we could have been lining it up for months
On the other hand, do people realise how childish they sound when they say 'not even a new rumour today??????'
Makes it pretty obvious what they get out of 'transfer season' and its not related to building the club back up. No smoke doesn't mean no fire, every summer goes this way and people never learn.
We will have targets like we did with Maguire and Bruno in summers gone by, what will be infuriating will be if we can't close them out and have them drag on past the current window, as seems to be the acceptable norm. Maybe we saved 30m total in delaying the bruno and maguire deals by 1 year and 6 months respectively, maybe. But Ole needs help right away so that we can kick on. If we need more money, we have a long list of players that can leave, the club should do deals like they are supposed to (and, again, should have been working on since March)
On the other hand, do people realise how childish they sound when they say 'not even a new rumour today??????'
Makes it pretty obvious what they get out of 'transfer season' and its not related to building the club back up. No smoke doesn't mean no fire, every summer goes this way and people never learn.
We will have targets like we did with Maguire and Bruno in summers gone by, what will be infuriating will be if we can't close them out and have them drag on past the current window, as seems to be the acceptable norm. Maybe we saved 30m total in delaying the bruno and maguire deals by 1 year and 6 months respectively, maybe. But Ole needs help right away so that we can kick on. If we need more money, we have a long list of players that can leave, the club should do deals like they are supposed to (and, again, should have been working on since March)
This window is getting slightly frustrating, with Chelsea signing every man and his grandmother. Feels like a deja vu of the summer before we sacked Jose.
While it does sadden me that there's no sign of any incoming players, it's actually not the worst thing for me.
The worst thing is that it seems increasingly likely that Jones, Pereira and Lingard will still be here next season.
The worst thing is that it seems increasingly likely that Jones, Pereira and Lingard will still be here next season.
could you imagine going from Sancho hype to "MUFC see no value in the market and Poch is interested in the job"
The season starts on sep 12th, our first game is on the 19th. That's less than 4 weeks.
Now is the time to sign players, or they'll miss all of the preseason.
Now is the time to sign players, or they'll miss all of the preseason.
Yeah it actually feels like that could happen and half the forum wouldn't even be surprised. In a year where Thiago could move for 30 mil, and Partey for 40 mil.
We'd then end up with a winger from the championship and a third (fifth) choice keeper.
Even worse, you gotta account for a 2 week quarantine in a lot of situations. They won't even be able to train with the team pretty soon.
What like giving CHO a 120k a week wage, only to go and spend a load of money to put him on the bench. People are just throwing their toys out the pram, as per, when someone else signs players and we don't. If we go into the season with no signings, you can say that, but Chelsea could equally have just spent a load of money to not improve. Who'd be the competent executives then?
Chilwell wrapped up for Chelsea taking their spend beyond 200 million. So basically negotiating 100 million deal for Havertz and a 50 mill deal for Chilwell at the same time. Who knew such things were possible within the laws of physics
Bollocks.
We gave Rojo £80k and Jones £70k a week and they're not even on the bench. And this is another whole mater whether they spend stupidly or not. At least they spend.
You may improve or not if you sign new players, but it's 99℅ you don't improve if you sign no one.
I'm not saying we're better, but holding up Chelsea of how to run a football club is fecking laughable. Just because they spend, doesn't make them competent executives. The competent executives got them transfer banned in the first place.
We are a pathetic terribly run club and only solskjaer has made strides to improve it. And he's the one who is going to get buried by the owners. Just look up posts for each of the last 7 years it is literally groundhog day. In the argument of how much we've spent you then have to question who was sanctioning these deals and contracts.
We're terrible when we spend, when we don't and dreadful at capitalising on any sense we might be moving in the right direction.
We're terrible when we spend, when we don't and dreadful at capitalising on any sense we might be moving in the right direction.
That's two seasons ago and we're talking about this season.
At least so far they're more competent than ours in strengthening their squad. And their owner does spend and ours don't. Can you deny that?
i'd like to have someone in charge that could simultaneously negotiate a 100 million deal and a 50 million deal. Would that be too much to ask for? Why does it take us 2 weeks to brief to a journalist that we don't like BVB using a third party agent and then just go radio silent for 3 weeks?
Their executives haven't changed.
Currently, they have strengthened their squad better than we have. That's not hard as we haven't signed anyone yet. If you actually think we'll sign no one, I can understand the issue, I just don't see in what world do we not spend a penny,
100m was the price of Havertz all along, we know the price of our main target (the managers target) is 120m, it just leaves feck all left in the coffers for anything else.