World Class players under Alex Ferguson

World class is a term I've never fully understood. Players like Messi and Ronaldo have obviously been the obvious clear world class players in the past.

If you are in the top 3 or 4 in your position are you world class? I find it hard to describe most full backs as world class if that makes sense. They are incredibly important in a team but world class to me are the Iniesta, Xavi etc in midfield or the guys scoring and assisting at high rates yearly.

Andy Robertson for Liverpool has been one of the best full backs in the world for a period. But calling Andy Robertson world class seems strange?

Who would you rather play at Left Back Maldini or Messi? Which one would be better in that position?
 
The likes of Carrick and G. Neville would be in "World Class" level if they're in this era. I have no doubt.
 
Neville is never world class for me, never feel safe with him as our defender. Irwin is at least 1 level higher than him.
 
If you go by SAF's own definition in his book he only ever had 3.
4. Which is nonsense. He obviously went with Ronaldo + Cantona, Giggs, Scholes (the 3 who never fell out with him).

If it is just goat level then only Ronaldo can be there.
If it is also 1-2 levels below and Giggs, Scholes and Cantona are included, then the other players on most peoples’ list in this thread who are around the same level absolutely deserve to be there as well.
 
4. Which is nonsense. He obviously went with Ronaldo + Cantona, Giggs, Scholes (the 3 who never fell out with him).

If it is just goat level then only Ronaldo can be there.
If it is also 1-2 levels below and Giggs, Scholes and Cantona are included, then the other players on most peoples’ list in this thread who are around the same level absolutely deserve to be there as well.
I'd say Rio and Vidic would probably qualify as world class and so would Keane and Stam and then there's the mad Dane in goal
 
World class during their tenure here or just overall in general? Veron was world class but left a lot to be desired in his stint with us, same with the likes of blanc and to a degree Owen who were by then past it.

If we're sticking to the former I'd like to add a seldom mentioned named,McGrath , he was class if not for his off the field drinking problems.
 
World class during their tenure here or just overall in general? Veron was world class but left a lot to be desired in his stint with us, same with the likes of blanc and to a degree Owen who were by then past it.

If we're sticking to the former I'd like to add a seldom mentioned named,McGrath , he was class if not for his off the field drinking problems.
McGrath was class at Villa after he left United
 
Peter Schmeichel - arguably the best all time goalie

Rio - one of the best modern centre backs in Europe
Vidic - same as Rio but completely different players

Scholes - I don’t think there’s one player that would improve on him. He may not have been better than Cavi for Barca, but I would argue that goes both ways.

Keane - because

Giggs - arguably the best left winger for several years
Ronaldo - goes without saying
Beckham
Cantona? Possibly

Honorable mentions to Rooney: Rooney was never the best striker in the PL. Even in his best season for us, RVP was better for Arsenal.

Soft spot for Evra, and he was one of the best fullbacks for three to five years.
 
4. Which is nonsense. He obviously went with Ronaldo + Cantona, Giggs, Scholes (the 3 who never fell out with him).

If it is just goat level then only Ronaldo can be there.
If it is also 1-2 levels below and Giggs, Scholes and Cantona are included, then the other players on most peoples’ list in this thread who are around the same level absolutely deserve to be there as well.
Nope he left Cantona out.
 
He was great for United too if a bit inconsistencies.
Yeah I know, used to see him regularly coming out of the bookies on Chester Road and using the pay phones outside, I think he had gambling issues as well if I recall correctly
 
Nope he left Cantona out.
He said this a few years ago while launching one of his books and Cantona was definitely in.
He said today (i.e. a few years ago when he said it) there are only two world class players currently playing: Ronaldo and Messi.
And while he managed many great players, he would call only 4 world class under him.
 
He said this a few years ago while launching one of his books and Cantona was definitely in.
He said today (i.e. a few years ago when he said it) there are only two world class players currently playing: Ronaldo and Messi.
And while he managed many great players, he would call only 4 world class under him.
Fair enough I am remembering a previous passage there then. Still think it was harsh of him.
 
Anyone that doesn't have Robbo in needs to go and watch him play. For a time, he was the only world class player in our side and we did very well to keep him for so long.
 
Anyone that doesn't have Robbo in needs to go and watch him play. For a time, he was the only world class player in our side and we did very well to keep him for so long.
Didn't Atkinson come close to selling him to Juve at one point?
 
Eric the King
Peter Schmeichel
VDS
CR7
Wazza
Becks
Giggs
Scholes
Keano
Berbatov
Tevez
RVP
Hughes
Saha
RVN

And yes our very own Robbo 7 who gave it all in that CWC 91 campaign. In all honesty I would have to mention our defensive parnerships of Bruce-Pallister and Vidic-Ferdinand. And offcourse Dennis Irwin.
Saha, really? :lol:
Also, Berbatov was a fantastic technical player but he wasn't world class. Half of his United career was spent playing second fiddle to Chicharito. Couldn't even make the 7 man bench for the 2011 Champions League final.
 
Saha, really? :lol:
Also, Berbatov was a fantastic technical player but he wasn't world class. Half of his United career was spent playing second fiddle to Chicharito. Couldn't even make the 7 man bench for the 2011 Champions League final.
But he was our top scorer that season. Saha was injury prone but top class
 
But he was our top scorer that season. Saha was injury prone but top class
Being a top scorer one season shouldn't automatically qualify you as world class. Also not sure why Carrick isn't on your list when Saha is but each to their own.
 
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During Fergusons reign at United which players would you say were world class? Feel free to add/take out.

For me

Goalkeepers

Schmeichel
Van Der Sar

Defenders

Gary Neville
Stam
Ferdinand
Vidic
Evra

Midfielders

Beckham
Scholes
Keane
Carrick
Giggs

Forwards

Cantona
Yorke
Van Nistelrooy
Ronaldo
Rooney
Van Persie

I'd include Irwin and possibly omit Neville, definitely omit Carras.
 
Peter Schmeichel - arguably the best all time goalie

Rio - one of the best modern centre backs in Europe
Vidic - same as Rio but completely different players

Scholes - I don’t think there’s one player that would improve on him. He may not have been better than Cavi for Barca, but I would argue that goes both ways.

Keane - because

Giggs - arguably the best left winger for several years
Ronaldo - goes without saying
Beckham
Cantona? Possibly

Honorable mentions to Rooney: Rooney was never the best striker in the PL. Even in his best season for us, RVP was better for Arsenal.

Soft spot for Evra, and he was one of the best fullbacks for three to five years.

Rooney was world class in his prime under Fergie, without a doubt. He was the talisman and fighter who did anything and everything on the ball and off the ball.
 
But he was our top scorer that season. Saha was injury prone but top class
By scoring about half of his goals in 1 game against Blackburn. His Hattrick against Liverpool was great though.
 
For me

Goalkeepers
Schmeichel
Van Der Sar

Defenders
Stam
Ferdinand
Vidic

Midfielders
Robson
Keane

Forwards
Van Nistelrooy
Ronaldo
Rooney
Van Persie
 
For me

Goalkeepers
Schmeichel
Van Der Sar

Defenders
Stam
Ferdinand
Vidic

Midfielders
Robson
Keane

Forwards
Van Nistelrooy
Ronaldo
Rooney
Van Persie
Mad that you're omitting Scholes. Best midfielder I've ever seen in a United shirt (I only caught the tail end of Keane's career)
 
Being a top scorer one season shouldn't automatically qualify you as world class. Also not sure why Carrick isn't on your list when Saha is but each to their own.
Listen mate its kind of subjective just like your list. Personally I never rated Carrick( pure talent wise) that highly aldo he did well for the club. I suppose its whats makes this list so fun at the end of the day
 
Listen mate its kind of subjective just like your list. Personally I never rated Carrick( pure talent wise) that highly aldo he did well for the club. I suppose its whats makes this list so fun at the end of the day
Did you think Saha was better than Cole and Yorke?
 
Yeah I know, used to see him regularly coming out of the bookies on Chester Road and using the pay phones outside, I think he had gambling issues as well if I recall correctly
Ultimately Fergie was right in giving him the axe as someone with his unfortunately set of liabilities was bound to always be more trouble than it's worth but I always did wonder what would happen if Fergie chose to stick with him and somehow his disadvantages disappeared.

His talent was immense and im sure he'd have gone down as an all time great had he shown the restraint his innate talent deserved.
 
One thing I've heard a lot in the last few year's is our players have always been shite and can't hold a candle to some of today's legends. So that must've made Fergie the absolute greatest, to win so much with rubbish players right? Wrong! He was crap as well.

I don't know why or how we won so much but he was shite and so were the players. Must've been the brown paper envelopes and refs we had in our pockets. That must be why we had 115 charges against us.
 
Gary Neville is an interesting one. He pretty much is the best Premier League right back of all time right? Undisputed pretty much. Maybe Kyle Walker overtakes him when his career is over
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Why have we had such a dearth of world class right backs in the Prem?
 
I'd say that Robbo probably wasn't world-class under Alex Ferguson. His absolute best (when he was clearly world-class) came a bit earlier.
 
I'd say that Robbo probably wasn't world-class under Alex Ferguson. His absolute best (when he was clearly world-class) came a bit earlier.
There's a element of truth in that though in 1986 Robbo was regarded as England's best player by his namesake manager