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Schmeichel
VDS
Rio
Vidic
Evra
Stam
Irwin
Keane
Scholes
Beckham
Giggs
Ronaldo
RVN
Rooney
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Rio
Vidic
Evra
Stam
Irwin
Keane
Scholes
Beckham
Giggs
Ronaldo
RVN
Rooney
World class is a term I've never fully understood. Players like Messi and Ronaldo have obviously been the obvious clear world class players in the past.
If you are in the top 3 or 4 in your position are you world class? I find it hard to describe most full backs as world class if that makes sense. They are incredibly important in a team but world class to me are the Iniesta, Xavi etc in midfield or the guys scoring and assisting at high rates yearly.
Andy Robertson for Liverpool has been one of the best full backs in the world for a period. But calling Andy Robertson world class seems strange?
Better than Evra. (Imo)
4. Which is nonsense. He obviously went with Ronaldo + Cantona, Giggs, Scholes (the 3 who never fell out with him).If you go by SAF's own definition in his book he only ever had 3.
I'd say Rio and Vidic would probably qualify as world class and so would Keane and Stam and then there's the mad Dane in goal4. Which is nonsense. He obviously went with Ronaldo + Cantona, Giggs, Scholes (the 3 who never fell out with him).
If it is just goat level then only Ronaldo can be there.
If it is also 1-2 levels below and Giggs, Scholes and Cantona are included, then the other players on most peoples’ list in this thread who are around the same level absolutely deserve to be there as well.
McGrath was class at Villa after he left UnitedWorld class during their tenure here or just overall in general? Veron was world class but left a lot to be desired in his stint with us, same with the likes of blanc and to a degree Owen who were by then past it.
If we're sticking to the former I'd like to add a seldom mentioned named,McGrath , he was class if not for his off the field drinking problems.
He was great for United too if a bit inconsistencies.McGrath was class at Villa after he left United
Nope he left Cantona out.4. Which is nonsense. He obviously went with Ronaldo + Cantona, Giggs, Scholes (the 3 who never fell out with him).
If it is just goat level then only Ronaldo can be there.
If it is also 1-2 levels below and Giggs, Scholes and Cantona are included, then the other players on most peoples’ list in this thread who are around the same level absolutely deserve to be there as well.
Yeah I know, used to see him regularly coming out of the bookies on Chester Road and using the pay phones outside, I think he had gambling issues as well if I recall correctlyHe was great for United too if a bit inconsistencies.
He said this a few years ago while launching one of his books and Cantona was definitely in.Nope he left Cantona out.
Fair enough I am remembering a previous passage there then. Still think it was harsh of him.He said this a few years ago while launching one of his books and Cantona was definitely in.
He said today (i.e. a few years ago when he said it) there are only two world class players currently playing: Ronaldo and Messi.
And while he managed many great players, he would call only 4 world class under him.
Didn't Atkinson come close to selling him to Juve at one point?Anyone that doesn't have Robbo in needs to go and watch him play. For a time, he was the only world class player in our side and we did very well to keep him for so long.
Saha, really?Eric the King
Peter Schmeichel
VDS
CR7
Wazza
Becks
Giggs
Scholes
Keano
Berbatov
Tevez
RVP
Hughes
Saha
RVN
And yes our very own Robbo 7 who gave it all in that CWC 91 campaign. In all honesty I would have to mention our defensive parnerships of Bruce-Pallister and Vidic-Ferdinand. And offcourse Dennis Irwin.
But he was our top scorer that season. Saha was injury prone but top classSaha, really?
Also, Berbatov was a fantastic technical player but he wasn't world class. Half of his United career was spent playing second fiddle to Chicharito. Couldn't even make the 7 man bench for the 2011 Champions League final.
Yes, and that pretty much sums up Atkinson as a manager.Didn't Atkinson come close to selling him to Juve at one point?
If you go by SAF's own definition in his book he only ever had 3.
Being a top scorer one season shouldn't automatically qualify you as world class. Also not sure why Carrick isn't on your list when Saha is but each to their own.But he was our top scorer that season. Saha was injury prone but top class
Love tony to bits but he is not a WC player.Valenica was never close to world class..
During Fergusons reign at United which players would you say were world class? Feel free to add/take out.
For me
Goalkeepers
Schmeichel
Van Der Sar
Defenders
Gary Neville
Stam
Ferdinand
Vidic
Evra
Midfielders
Beckham
Scholes
Keane
Carrick
Giggs
Forwards
Cantona
Yorke
Van Nistelrooy
Ronaldo
Rooney
Van Persie
Peter Schmeichel - arguably the best all time goalie
Rio - one of the best modern centre backs in Europe
Vidic - same as Rio but completely different players
Scholes - I don’t think there’s one player that would improve on him. He may not have been better than Cavi for Barca, but I would argue that goes both ways.
Keane - because
Giggs - arguably the best left winger for several years
Ronaldo - goes without saying
Beckham
Cantona? Possibly
Honorable mentions to Rooney: Rooney was never the best striker in the PL. Even in his best season for us, RVP was better for Arsenal.
Soft spot for Evra, and he was one of the best fullbacks for three to five years.
By scoring about half of his goals in 1 game against Blackburn. His Hattrick against Liverpool was great though.But he was our top scorer that season. Saha was injury prone but top class
Mad that you're omitting Scholes. Best midfielder I've ever seen in a United shirt (I only caught the tail end of Keane's career)For me
Goalkeepers
Schmeichel
Van Der Sar
Defenders
Stam
Ferdinand
Vidic
Midfielders
Robson
Keane
Forwards
Van Nistelrooy
Ronaldo
Rooney
Van Persie
Listen mate its kind of subjective just like your list. Personally I never rated Carrick( pure talent wise) that highly aldo he did well for the club. I suppose its whats makes this list so fun at the end of the dayBeing a top scorer one season shouldn't automatically qualify you as world class. Also not sure why Carrick isn't on your list when Saha is but each to their own.
Did you think Saha was better than Cole and Yorke?Listen mate its kind of subjective just like your list. Personally I never rated Carrick( pure talent wise) that highly aldo he did well for the club. I suppose its whats makes this list so fun at the end of the day
I think he was crazy talented aldo Yorke and Cole did better for the club and they had insaine understandingDid you think Saha was better than Cole and Yorke?
Ultimately Fergie was right in giving him the axe as someone with his unfortunately set of liabilities was bound to always be more trouble than it's worth but I always did wonder what would happen if Fergie chose to stick with him and somehow his disadvantages disappeared.Yeah I know, used to see him regularly coming out of the bookies on Chester Road and using the pay phones outside, I think he had gambling issues as well if I recall correctly
There's a element of truth in that though in 1986 Robbo was regarded as England's best player by his namesake managerI'd say that Robbo probably wasn't world-class under Alex Ferguson. His absolute best (when he was clearly world-class) came a bit earlier.