Yeah and that title change makes no difference to my response to your comment to that original point. At 17 with him in our side, along with all the other factors like Bruno Pogba Rashford Sancho all playing together, we could potentially surpass Liverpool and City, that's my point. And you've completely wrote him off without knowing who he is, he is genuinely good enough to start for Utd currently and improve us.
"I don't know who Camavinga is but you are putting a 17 years old who just got his first full Ligue 1 professional season in a very important role and expecting us to surpass Liverpool. It seems you underestimate a holding midfielder role. Never mind surpassing Liverpool & City, I don't even remember the last teenagers who play regular holding mid in PL title contender. I can understand if your choice is Ndidi who has good season recently or Partey or even using Fred/Scott. A 17 years old really?"
I've gone from 17 year old to 17 year old holding midfielder because it adds more context to your point, hardly moving the goalposts.. Yeah they are two different things and my bolded point can mean either of them, I've said countless times that Camavinga would contribute to us matching Liverpool and City's level so feel free to quote that.
You've used that title thread change as a response to suit your argument for the last 3 posts so that's pretty rich
I responded to that but then you completely ignore that point, then ask me to highlight something, I respond, then you bring out the title change for a second time, and then a third. Good'en. All of my points still stand with the very slight change to the title, that relates to my OP more.You've used that title thread change as a response to suit your argument for the last 3 posts so that's pretty rich
You saying Camavinga can't make a difference for us currently without knowing who he is isn't common sense.
Exactly, with Bruno, Pogba and Sancho added to the mix and Rashford coming back you have a completely different team.
The fact that you think a 17 year old kid who just started his professional career in the French league would make our starting lineup and improve our starting 11 says a lot.
It's the French league.... Expecting him to be an instant starter for us right now is ridiculous
He would improve our starting XI and our squad currently yes, he's better than Matic. That french league bollocks doesn't stick because he put in a MOTM performance vs PSG, a better team than us at the time, and played a big part in Rennes beating them, the french champions, at 16. He's put in plenty more of those performances whilst picking up the most successful tackles out of any midfielder in the top leagues, and that's just one attribute that he excels at. Have you ever watched any of Rennes games?
I'm referring to the OP who thinks this guy is basically going to save our midfield singlehandedly.
Singlehandedly? Christ almighty. Read my posts in the entire thread. You couldn't be bending my words any more.
Rooney didn't make us the best squad in the league, it took 3-4 years and the additions of 2 world class defenders, a world class goalkeeper and Carrick to make us the best squad in the league. Camavinga is 17 and he's no where near the level of teenage Rooney (because there are only 1-2 who were). If Camavinga comes in he'll be inconsistent as hell for 2-3 years in a position where City are exceptionally strong. It's doubtful he would definitely supplant Matic in that role, never mind Fred and McTominay if it comes to it.
James is Rashfords backup and Greenwood will be sanchos assuming we get him.
No but he had an instant impact and he contributed towards getting us back there and that's what I said. Camavinga is genuinely as big a talent as Rooney was, he's putting in the same sort of age defying performances and statistics, so don't be so quick to say he can't make a meaningful impact yet because of his age and position.
No, you said we would be back on that level if we signed those too, then edited the title.
What? I'm talking about what I said about Rooney, and not sure how qualified you are to make that call, he's pretty much the best teenage footballer on the planet right now putting in record numbers so.. I'll answer to your first point even though I was talking about Rooney. Yes I said if we sign Sancho and Camavinga with Pogba, Bruno and the return of Rashford considered then we could potentially pass Liverpool and City's squad, Camavinga is a contribution to a number of positive factors. The main one being a top quality well balanced front 3, then having the combination of Pogba and Bruno behind them as a creative force, then Camavinga, Fred and McTominay as options behind followed by a very strong back line. Bailly could even end up being a better Gomez. It's not as far off as most of you are making out.
I think our strongest front 3 becomes better than theirs though with Sancho included, so it balances out for me at least.
I'd have Rashford Martial Sancho over Sterling Aguero Bernardo, but I could be biased maybe?
Insult to Rooney are you mad? How many times have you watched Camavinga play in all seriousness? And Rooney hadn't scored for England yet at exactly the same age, Camavinga could've potentially made the squad at some point this summer if it wasn't for coronavirus so that argument is null.
