Wilshere's price?

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Quite a week for Jack Wilshire, he has certainly made a wonderful entry into the world of international football with his recent performances for club and country (vs Denmark and FC Barcelona).

Of course his future is uncertain and will take any number of twists and turns but from what we have seen so far, he looks like the real deal. I can imagine him being the heart of a midfield and the cornerstone upon which 2 or 3 teams are built over his career so it would be an amazing investment for any team.

Im just wondering ... every player has his price: Rooney & Rio cost us approx £30 each, Ronaldo cost Madrid £80m

So what would is cost for somebody to buy Wilshire from Arsenal now? I reckon £40m would make Arsenal sit up. Its mad money for an 18 year old who just made his international debut .... but then Andy Carroll .....
 
Depends on the circumstances, whether he wanted to leave or whether a club is trying to offer money that Arsenal couldnt turn down.

If he were unhappy and wanted to move, about £20-25 million.

If he were happy, long contract, Arsenal not wanting to sell one of its English players then yeah around £40 million to another premier league club
 
It's not hard to spell. He's worth a lot based on his potential. I don't think we should price him based on the Carroll spasticity. £30mish.
 
Would love to see him play for us. Won't happen though.
 
Was Anderson a similar talent in terms of reputation and potential when we bought him?

The reality for all clubs in the transfer market is that Liverpool's madness with Carroll will have set a benchmark.
 
Solius said:
It's not hard to spell. He's worth a lot based on his potential. I don't think we should price him based on the Carroll spasticity. £30mish.
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I'd say £30m is a little on the large side and more Carrollesque than not to be truthful. He's not even managed a full season of top flight football, the same applies to Carroll, and he's being valued casually at £30m. Madness at this stage in his career no matter how rich his potential is.

I'd say £13-£18m would reflect his true value currently but the market has gone absolutely ape shit in the last 2 years. Player's are going/valued at twice the going rate in most cases.
 
Definitely the brightest young talent in the Premier League & Europe, I wouldn't question a decision by Utd to break the bank & pull out all the stops to take him away from the Emirates.
 
The biggest enemy to English talents are media and their willingness to over-hype them. Wilshere is brilliant right now but will he be capable of coping with fame and money?

If he has the character, he could become as big a star as Rooney.
 
The media will always find a weakness in a player, Wilshere's will be his hotheadedness. Apparently he's quite confrontational off the pitch, not fighting as much or anything but he can't seem to take the abuse he gets in the street or anything like that. Bad temper. Will need to see how he handles that in the future.
 
As things stand with him looking like Cesc's natural replacement, I suspect he'd be in or around what they'd be looking for for Fabregas, and even then I doubt they'd want to sell him. Bringing through a player as good as him is very rare, even more so given the sort of player he is.
 
alastair said:
People are living in 2005 with prices like £30m. We wouldn't even reply to the inquiring e-mail if it was less than £60m.
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:lol:

Better to live in 2005, than the alternative if its alastair's personal asylum.

You'd be very interested to hear that £40 million offer.
 
I would like to think that if we made it clear to him that we wanted him and were prepared to pay whatever it took to get him to Old Trafford, he would be interested. With all respect to Arsenal and Wenger (whom I have the greatest of respect for) the reality is that Wilshire will have far more chances to win medals during his career at Old Trafford (under Mourinho?) than at a Wenger-less Emirates.

With all the talk of Henderson, Rodwell and other young English midfielders being linked with us, if we were to want to sign young English talent, we'd be mad not to try for him. We may not convince Arsenal to sell to us but I think SAF would try just like he did with Gerrard a few years back.

Just a funny feeling I have.
 
25 million for talent + 76.78 million for being English.


PS: Why don't we have an Arsenal subforum yet?
 
Ekeke said:
:lol:

Better to live in 2005, than the alternative if its alastair's personal asylum.

You'd be very interested to hear that £40 million offer.
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It depends which club. English players in England are understandably a valuable commodity. Added to Wilshere's potential to be one of the best players in the world, and you're talking silly money. It could quite possibly be that much, as ridiculous as it sounds. Don't forget we're a rich club and don't need to sell.
 
At this point, what has he done in the game? He's a great talent and he was superb against Barcelona but other players have had stormers against Barcelona.

Usually before a big club comes in with lots of money for a young player, the young player has played multiple seasons at the top level and proven himself at all levels. And thats for players who were in the £20 million or so bracket. Let alone all these estimates above that

Someone asked about Anderson when we bought him, well he was considered the new Ronaldinho in Brazil. He had adapted to european football and also had champions league experience. A fee would not be significantly higher than his, although it would be higher yes

£60 million :lol: only the most deluded of people, obviously
 
alastair said:
It depends which club. English players in England are understandably a valuable commodity. Added to Wilshere's potential to be one of the best players in the world, and you're talking silly money. It could quite possibly be that much, as ridiculous as it sounds. Don't forget we're a rich club and don't need to sell.
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Actually I agree with you. A 'normal' price for him in this crazy market would be £30m. The English tax adds another £10m on him, easily. If you received a large bid you can probably guess from where it came.
 
Ekeke said:
At this point, what has he done in the game? He's a great talent and he was superb against Barcelona but other players have had stormers against Barcelona.

Usually before a big club comes in with lots of money for a young player, the young player has played multiple seasons at the top level and proven himself at all levels. And thats for players who were in the £20 million or so bracket. Let alone all these estimates above that

Someone asked about Anderson when we bought him, well he was considered the new Ronaldinho in Brazil. He had adapted to european football and also had champions league experience. A fee would not be significantly higher than his, although it would be higher yes

£60 million :lol: only the most deluded of people, obviously
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Anderson was fair enough as a fee.

But what had Carroll done to be worth £35m? Nothing. I rate Wilshere as a player with greater potential, which I'm sure most of us do, which makes him with an extortionate amount of money. I really can't see Arsenal accepting any bid, let alone one for £30 million odd.
 
Ekeke said:
At this point, what has he done in the game? He's a great talent and he was superb against Barcelona but other players have had stormers against Barcelona.

Usually before a big club comes in with lots of money for a young player, the young player has played multiple seasons at the top level and proven himself at all levels. And thats for players who were in the £20 million or so bracket. Let alone all these estimates above that

Someone asked about Anderson when we bought him, well he was considered the new Ronaldinho in Brazil. He had adapted to european football and also had champions league experience. A fee would not be significantly higher than his, although it would be higher yes

£60 million :lol: only the most deluded of people, obviously
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As i wrote above, Rooney hit all these attributes and the going rate was £30m ... and that was 6 years ago! Like it or not, Carroll's transfer will have an impact on the prices of future English wunderkids.
 
alastair said:
Anderson was fair enough as a fee.

But what had Carroll done to be worth £35m? Nothing. I rate Wilshere as a player with greater potential, which I'm sure most of us do, which makes him with an extortionate amount of money. I really can't see Arsenal accepting any bid, let alone one for £30 million odd.
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Well sure, if Liverpool sold Gerrard because he was unhappy and didnt have some kind of plan to replace him, showing the same desperation and absolute lunacy as £35 million for Carroll - then maybe, just maybe, the idiots would pay a huge fee for Wilshire. Okay.

But I mean, in the same bizarre situation they might pay £20 million for O'Shea. So its not really worth discussing is it?

But yes Wilshire has great potential, far more than Carroll
 
Ekeke said:
At this point, what has he done in the game? He's a great talent and he was superb against Barcelona but other players have had stormers against Barcelona.

Usually before a big club comes in with lots of money for a young player, the young player has played multiple seasons at the top level and proven himself at all levels. And thats for players who were in the £20 million or so bracket. Let alone all these estimates above that

Someone asked about Anderson when we bought him, well he was considered the new Ronaldinho in Brazil. He had adapted to european football and also had champions league experience. A fee would not be significantly higher than his, although it would be higher yes

£60 million :lol: only the most deluded of people, obviously
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This is more a discussion about what Arsenal would sell him for, not an objective valuation. I reckon Wenger fancies that he'll become a world class player for them, so the idea of selling him below the world class price bracket - even though he hasn't gotten there yet - probably wouldn't enter his mind.
 
My honest price for him would be £15m potentially rising to £18m depending on success. People talking about 30m or perhaps even 60 must be fecking dreaming. Why would you buy a player that might become a decenet player when you could buy an established world class beater for those money???? Idiots. feck off.
 
We may produce a Wilshire or McEachran level prospect from our academy, I think Wilshire looks an exceptional young talent but it's a bit soon to be coveting him before we see how our next batch does.
 
Scholesy said:
I called for us to make a massive offer for McEachran before he establishes himself. He is more special than Wilshere.
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I have to say, I agree with Scholesy... McEachran does look like he's going to become immense.

As for Wilshere, alastair is have a bloody laugh. £60 million? Please get your head out of the clouds.

He'd be round about the same price as Carroll, maybe slightly higher. 37mil max imo. And that's just basing it on the overinflated prices of late. Usually 20 million would be about right.

To think what we paid for Rooney, and then to claim Wilshere is worth over double that. :lol:
 
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