He's a super player and I'd love him here, but Chelsea won't sell for a reasonable price (around 40 million) and paying 60+ is too much for a 28 year old.
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Mahrez on top of Ibra and Rooney would make for a very slow frontline, can't see Mourinho going for it.
He's a good player, but you can pay Griezmann's release clause with 60M...
Hmmm...
He does not always try the fancy stuff at Chelsea but he's a skillful player.
I agree with the general point but he was definitely trying to flick the ball onto #8 there! Jammy bastard.
Paying £60m for Willian would be an absolute joke and another ridiculous example of English clubs spending absurd amounts of money on "PL proven" players. A big part of the reason Bayern are so much further ahead is because they can buy Coman and Costa combined for less than that.
He doesnt do that sort of thing anywhere enough to be called a skillfull player tho. He has alot of talent for sure but i cant help but think Mourinho did him no favours in his developmentHmmm...
He does not always try the fancy stuff at Chelsea but he's a skillful player.
I can't see Griezman leaving for either us, or Chelsea if I'm honest.
Who are other potential right wingers we could get?
Does feel like that, right? With van Gaal it was Vlaar. Possibly even Müller and Robben (but it was likely he actually wanted those).
It's not the most desirable list.
Mahrez, Mkhitaryan, Sane, Bellarabi, Lucas Moura, Bernando Silva, Joao Mario, Mane, Arda Turan(?)
Probably doesn't even become worth listing after that. And the first three are probably pretty unlikely.
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He was developed before Chelsea, he is skillfull but Lucescu's players tend to put the team above everything, even Douglas Costa plays really simply.
He would add balance that's enough! We don't need him to do a dozen step overs... Just be productive! If he is anything like last season. That's good enough.
Yeah, that's what I feel too. The pool of attainable top quality right wingers is very thin.
Lucas Moura should be above Bernardo Silva and since PSG are supposed to be after a wide player, Moura might be available.
Douglas Costa seems to try alot more skills whenever ive watched him and just seems generally better than willian at taking on his man. I do rate Willian i just dont know if he should be number 1 on our hit list.
I'd find it hilarious
In fairness Mourinho and Willian are completely different. Mourinho I absolutely can't stand but can accept he's a great manager, Willian I have no ill feelings towards, I just think he's mediocre.
Ooh true, I did forget him.
Yeh i understand that he adds balance but i think if we have aspirations of being a top team we need someone thats world class. Id personally take a chance on Mahrez, this season could well have been the tip of the iceberg for him and he has potential to be absolute top quality.
I love watching him play, movement, energy he never seems to stop running , would he improve United ? of course he would . would we get fleeced for him ? hell yes .
so it boils down to two things improvement or money , my opinion is, its a no brainer spend the money and get him here.
so it boils down to two things improvement or money , my opinion is, its a no brainer spend the money and get him here.
The only reason for not having him as number one is his price, if he wasn't playing for Chelsea he should be on top of the list and if you look at @DWelbz19 's list he is probably the most skillfull after Mahrez.
60m is definitely not what we are paying if we're indeed after him. But I'd love him here. I don't think there is anyone in the premier league right now who is as consistent as Willian. I can't remember a bad game from him although I haven't watched Chelsea as much as I used to.
If we're giving them 60m why not give it to Wenger(who will blow it away anyway) and get Sanchez(who rejected us once, but we have Mourinho now).
One thing is certain that Jose prefers actual wingers on either side of the pitch rather than wide forwards who are mentioned in abundance here. I'd love Greizmann more than anyone but I doubt he'd want to leave Atletico. Imagine if rat face had stayed. He would've been immense under Jose. We definitely need a RW and it'd be interesting if Jose goes for a number 10 or he settles with Rooney. He was a fan and said it's Rooney or bust when they were in for a striker so you never know. But we need pace up front and I wouldn't mind Willian.
Top class managers bringing players from their former clubs isn't a new thing and Willian was the player he endeared the most at Chelsea. Won't be surprised if the rumors are true
If we're giving them 60m why not give it to Wenger(who will blow it away anyway) and get Sanchez(who rejected us once, but we have Mourinho now).
One thing is certain that Jose prefers actual wingers on either side of the pitch rather than wide forwards who are mentioned in abundance here. I'd love Greizmann more than anyone but I doubt he'd want to leave Atletico. Imagine if rat face had stayed. He would've been immense under Jose. We definitely need a RW and it'd be interesting if Jose goes for a number 10 or he settles with Rooney. He was a fan and said it's Rooney or bust when they were in for a striker so you never know. But we need pace up front and I wouldn't mind Willian.
Top class managers bringing players from their former clubs isn't a new thing and Willian was the player he endeared the most at Chelsea. Won't be surprised if the rumors are true
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28? Woah. Didn't anybody else think he was 23-24?
Yeh i probably would agree with you there however skills arent the only important attribute. I think if i had my way id go all out for Mahrez as number 1 transfer target, then probably look at someone like Sane (never seen him play, but seems highly rated) because i think we would be set well if hes a martial level talent on the RW. After those two im not really sure but I would like to think our scouts could potentially find someone that could fill the role.
This reminds me of when half the website convinced themselves Vermalean would be a good signing.
Yep, beacsue Willian, who is practically never injured and was Chelsea's best player (in a shit season though) with a crocked, Arsenal bench warmer, that wouldnt even strengthen us much at his best, is a good comparision?
When you factor in that one would cost upwards of £60m they're equally ridiculous transfers.
We spent 28 mil on Schneiderlin who people still bizarrely think is a quality signing yet we're whining about Willian who was easily Chelsea's best player last season and not too bad with a dead ball either.
Yeah 60 mil is a bit on the high side but he would be a significant upgrade on what we have. Unless we're gonna do down the galactico route which I would not want, he's the type of player we should be going for.
I would be up for it definitely.
Yeah 60 mil is a bit on the high side but he would be a significant upgrade on what we have. Unless we're gonna do down the galactico route which I would not want, he's the type of player we should be going for.
I would be up for it definitely.
Being Chelsea's best player last season means very little. When you have a player like Willian as your best player you're obviously going to have a poor season.
In their title winning season he was probably the 9th or 10th best player in the team, that's his level - he's a workhorse that provides balance, not someone you go and spend £30m on nevermind £60m.
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Dunno if he'll even start regularly under Conte
In their title winning season he was probably the 9th or 10th best player in the team, that's his level - he's a workhorse that provides balance, not someone you go and spend £30m on nevermind £60m.
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Dunno if he'll even start regularly under Conte
Also in this super duper season he apparently had this where he ranked on combined goals and assists in the PL:
There's players that did considerably better than him that would be laughed at if we were linked to him, I just do not understand why anyone wants him.
There's players that did considerably better than him that would be laughed at if we were linked to him, I just do not understand why anyone wants him.
Mourinho's Fellaini moment?
I won't be surprised if Willian ends up a surplus for Chelsea. Conte is literally obsessed about Cuadrado. He left Juventus because they didn't sign him up for him
Chelsea have had an awful season incase you're forgetting, Willian is a top quality player there's no doubting that, he also does a lot of work off the ball it's not just goals/assists he's constantly moving and causing trouble for oppositions players and he's so energetic he just runs all day from watching Chelsea games on TV he seems to be the only positive they've had, the price is far too much obviously and it's probably a BS story cooked up but I wouldn't complain if we paid around £30-40 million for him.
There's a lot doubting it though. With reason.
He didn't even have a great season anyway, he had a great few months then faded back into mediocrity. Declared the best free kick taker around after a few flukes then didn't score another for months.
He's extremely energetic, you're right. So is Pedro but he's not great either, so was Kuyt but he wasn't a £30m player. The workhorses are supposed to be squad players or people bought on the cheap, not marquee signings.
Yes, but this is Willian's best season in the PL. You can't use the 'awful season' excuse to justify his stats this season without admitting that his awful stats from the last two are even worse than they look on first glance.
And yes, you can doubt that Willian is a 'top quality player', thats exactly what I'm doing. He's a rank average player.
A slightly better version of Milner. The only Chelsea attacker we could do with is Hazard but no chance.
How depressing it would be if Conte wants to get rid and we come up with ridiculous money. Would be typical us in the last 3 years. And I thought things are about to change.
How depressing it would be if Conte wants to get rid and we come up with ridiculous money. Would be typical us in the last 3 years. And I thought things are about to change.
Agree with that. We need to line up somebody who Conte wants before selling half the team. Although I don't think Willian has a place in a Conte team. I just can't see a role for him.
I like Willian but he certainly isn't a "top quality player".
Yeah I don't get these rumours at all. Not a player I'd really want to see him, and the prices are insane too. Hopefully nothing in this.
Using stats to judge if a player is any good or not is daft. Put the playstation away and go play the real game for a while and you will understand why stats are such a daft way to determine a players quality.
Bore off.
I think he'd be ideal for us,
Quoted price is high i guess but were trying to buy from a rival so thats always going to push the price up.
Pretty surprised by the reactions of the rest of you, hes a great player
Quoted price is high i guess but were trying to buy from a rival so thats always going to push the price up.
Pretty surprised by the reactions of the rest of you, hes a great player
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