We can leave them out if your shy? I wouldnt tie them too tight........
William Carvalho
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Any obligatory youtube videos of him? I've never heard of this guy before
We certainly seem very interested in this kid with Lawlor scouting him quite a few times. I've been wanting us to get a hard bastard in CDM for a long time. For one, even if we don't get our dream deep lying playmaker ala Herrera, Kroos, etc, it would free up Carrick to connect our play without having to worry too much about getting back to defend.
Seems a very confident player and would add needed attributes to our midfield. He will probably go to the WC with Portugal, so you would hope if the club was keen on him, they would act before the tourament. Like Hernandez in 2010.
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That's why I think we might be serious about this kid. Getting our scouting report on him done early enough for us to seal a deal before the WC. And it will be vital because if he has a good to great WC his price will soar.
Not to downplay him or anything but I also think he would be a player that we could tempt without Champions League football.
A deep lying playmaker type should be our priority over everything else. That's what we really need, much more than additional physicality or "steel".
That said, if this kid is talented enough then why not? If he's good enough he'll at least allow us to play Jones at CB. After all, we need more than one midfielder. Plus it'd raise my spirits if we had a midfielder with actual top quality potential, regardless of what type of cm he is.
That said, if this kid is talented enough then why not? If he's good enough he'll at least allow us to play Jones at CB. After all, we need more than one midfielder. Plus it'd raise my spirits if we had a midfielder with actual top quality potential, regardless of what type of cm he is.
Shame on us, now this is a proper thread.
Moyes is indeed said to be looking for one "driving" midfielder and one playmaker.
I imagine it'd register on the Richter scale if him and Toure went toe to toe!
He looks big and slow. It'd basically be like having an Ent play in our midfield.
I think we should look for 'steel' with ball-playing ability. I personally doubt that Xavi alongside Carrick would have stopped us losing many of the games we have been overrun in midfield in. Games like Cardiff away, Stoke away, City away. To use an old cliché, 'you have to earn the right to play your football'. Right now, I'm not sure we are capable of doing that against enough teams. If we could physically compete with Stoke, we would have been able to showcase a superior ability. As it was, we were closed down and bullied all over the pitch. The fact our players have better technique was rendered irrelevant.
Actually, stick him next to Fellaini and it's be an Entmoot.
How good a passer is he? Not a fan of these big and strong DM's who can barely pass.
How much would he go for, does anyone know? This is the type of signing I'd like to see us pursue. The brightest talent from the Europa League, Portugal and France. Affordable, less repelled by the lack of Champions League football and hungry to prove something.
This is what I've been trying to establish myself, but I need to see more. I don't think it's fair to just lump everyone together though. I'm sure some people would have glanced at Pogba and thought the same of him once upon a time.
I would like to think, given how highly Carvalho seems to be rated at the moment, considering he has broken into the Portugal starting line-up (played in their biggest game in ages in the WC play-off against Sweden), and given how intensely he has reportedly been scouted by a few top clubs -that he isn't just another of these useless lumps that are ten a penny. If that is what we are after, we could find that anywhere and for a lot cheaper than this guy.
I'm hoping there is more too him than we might suspect.
He's only 21? I'm on board.
Let's hope so. If he's actually any good then we should have a good chance at getting him given our relations with Sporting.
Fix the thread title please 
We need about 6 new profiles in the team
a deep lying playmaker
a dynamic strong defensive midfielder
a centreback
a leftback
a 2nd choice right back
an allround winger
He has a release clausle of 45 million euro
But I think a serious offer of around 25 to 30 million euro could be sufficient to get him. Sporting isn't a team that can afford not to sell, they aren't in a very strong financial position. Everything ofcourse depends on how many other teams are really interested in him, for the moment I think its mainly been us who have been linked with him but if he plays he really good WC he might attract some interest.
They have scouted him properley so I expect that they have a clear vision about his potential and his value, if he is a target they want to attract, I really hope they wrap up sooner rather than latter. Wrapping him up before the worldcup would be ideal imo.
He would represent another potential deal that would cause people to wonder what the point of Fellaini sadly.
Agree, though I think the first four on that list are much more important than the last two. If we somehow managed to get those players in the summer we'd actually have a pretty great team.
The dynamic, strong cm has to have a certain level of technique though. There are plenty of players who can make tackles and throw their weight around, we need more than that. I wouldn't like to see us sign a useless grunt whose only attributes are his size and aggression. If Carvahlo is more than that though...
Send a PM to Raoul.
Was just about to watch the Benfica/Sporting game to watch this kid and he isn't in the squad
He's banned (5 yellows) for that match. Not that the match ever took place anyway.Was just about to watch the Benfica/Sporting game to watch this kid and he isn't in the squad
From what I have seen of him, if he was involved where Fulham's goals came from, they would have been prevented. We constantly let players stroll through the middle with ease. It's one of, if not our biggest issue.
Don't need a signing to cause people to wonder why we have Fellaini.
Yeah, I read something about heavy winds calling it off. Will watch him another time.
Well signing another player to do what he was supposedly bought for would raise further questions.
Not just the winds though. The damn roof was disintegrating. That's the stadium that will host this year's CL final. Dangerous materials (for the health) like glass wool flying all over the place, and then big pieces of metal falling around, fortunately a few minutes after the stadium was evacuated.
Is he as good as Matic? Because from his start at Chelsea and with Mourinho's organisation, he's doing a good job of the things we're missing defensively in midfield.
personally i think Matic is better all round, good user of the ball
think of this lad like Makele just BIGGER. Wins the ball, a lot, and gives it to someone else. Wont solve any creative problems but will go someway to stop teams drivining a fleet of buses through our midfield
think of this lad like Makele just BIGGER. Wins the ball, a lot, and gives it to someone else. Wont solve any creative problems but will go someway to stop teams drivining a fleet of buses through our midfield
He'd have been perfect for us for the second half of the season. What shocked me yesterday with Sidwell's goal was the MASSIVE amount of space he had in front of him when he made his run. I mean, the midfield was gone - completely.
But what if we have 2 of these guys. We would then afford giving more licence for Mata, Rooney, Januzaj and RVP to do what they know best
Im not saying its a bad thing, I'd sign him. Would mean we could play 433 a bit better
I know. However what do you think about this strategy? Two William Carvalho type of players would certainly help the defense + allow us to play the likes of Rooney, Mata, Januzaj and RVP without being exposed too much.
I wonder whether he's fast enough to cover so much inches of pitch though.
-------GK-------
RB--CB--CB--LB
------DM--------
----CM---CM----
-------AM-------
----ST----ST----
with him as DM, could also easily move to 442 when PL oppo dictates it or 433 with LW-CF-RW
RB--CB--CB--LB
------DM--------
----CM---CM----
-------AM-------
----ST----ST----
with him as DM, could also easily move to 442 when PL oppo dictates it or 433 with LW-CF-RW
If you talked to me a month ago I would have told you that 4-3-3 is the way to go. Mind I never wanted one between Rooney, Mata, RVP and Januzaj to lose his place but I honestly couldn't see how we can fit all those players together without relying on an unbalanced system which would make us vulnerable at the back. Also the flanks are still important in the EPL so having someone there (although he would cut inside and cause damage rather then simply hug the line like Valencia do) is in my opinion imperative.
However someone highlighted something to me which I agree with. While its evident that Rooney would never accept from leaving the FWD line position he's stupid enough to be asked to play 'deeper' without noticing that he's actually playing in an AM/CM role. Rooney-Calvalho-someone like Carrick/Fletcher/Jones/Gundogan would provide the mix between creativity and steel that we need.
The way Chelsea play could work for us, if we were to bring him in. Chelsea mainly have two sitting DM's but one who can spray the ball about a bit e.g. Mikel & Lampard and then they have 3 attacking players with one striker. Having these two players sitting back allows the rest not to worry too much about tracking back but more utilising their attacking talents.
Saying that, Hazard and Willian do work extremely hard on the wings but considering they are not out and out wingers like Mata, Kagawa & Januzaj, it could potentially work for us as well. Having Rooney playing behind RvP, and two of them 3 as the wide man with Valencia/Young as back-up.
Fellaini-Carvalho could be your sitters and Carrick a DM who can pass and also Fletcher who isn't too bad. Cleverely can just provide general cover and if we can bring in another CM then even better.
Saying that, Hazard and Willian do work extremely hard on the wings but considering they are not out and out wingers like Mata, Kagawa & Januzaj, it could potentially work for us as well. Having Rooney playing behind RvP, and two of them 3 as the wide man with Valencia/Young as back-up.
Fellaini-Carvalho could be your sitters and Carrick a DM who can pass and also Fletcher who isn't too bad. Cleverely can just provide general cover and if we can bring in another CM then even better.
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