And what about this Carvalho kid @Arruda?
William Carvalho
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He looks exactly what we need yet you're not sure about his technical ability, passing or mentality? Surely they're the qualities we need more than any others?
I don't think he's exactly what we need or even close. But.. we do need to bolster our midfield, I have no problem with us signing squad members now, potential first 11 in a few years.
Andersons gone, Giggs probably retires at the end of the season, Carrick getting on a bit, Jones (perhaps) moving into defense full-time.
Andersons gone, Giggs probably retires at the end of the season, Carrick getting on a bit, Jones (perhaps) moving into defense full-time.
Looks like Bebe...
looks like an alternative to a Pogba/Matuidi option and probably the most achievable of the 3
I'd love us to obviously sign a playermaker but potentially next Summer if we made a signing like this we'd have
Carrick, Fletcher, Fellaini, Cleverley, Carvalho, New world Class CM, Powell
plenty of strength in depth there - almost too much - if we got Fellaini to perform Carvalho is probably more than we need
I'd love us to obviously sign a playermaker but potentially next Summer if we made a signing like this we'd have
Carrick, Fletcher, Fellaini, Cleverley, Carvalho, New world Class CM, Powell
plenty of strength in depth there - almost too much - if we got Fellaini to perform Carvalho is probably more than we need
True, Fellaini is a treat. I'd be devastated if we signed a talented young midfielder (not sure Carvalho is one) so the majestic Belgian couldn't play enough.
We need midfielders you nutter, and it cannot be Parker.
He is not exactly what we need atm, he is a pure defensive midfielder that can also function as a CB. I've known this player to be loaned out by Sporting to Cercle Brugge (a club that fights relegation in the belgium competition) he never stood out for me as a great player there, nowhere near United quality (not even material for a Belgium top club). But he has developped enourmesly since he went back to Sporting, he has worked his way into their first team and has delivered some fantastic performances, becoming their best player at the club, earning a spot in the Portugese national squad and he has delivered quality performances there aswell. Heard that he was the best player on the pitch in games versus Porto and also versus Sweden. He plays a sweeper on the midfield, his best qualities are his positioning, strenght, dualing power and his tackling. However he isn't exactly the guy from who'd expect killer passes and alot of goals. He is a purely CDM, but apparently one of rare quality (however, how much is off it is hyped up Idk).
I'd like him here at United, they say he is the Portugese Makelele and a lot of clubs (us, Arsenal, Real and Barca) have been looking at him. We have been scouting him the longest (already since last year). I'd have him here, but not as our sole addition the midfield. We are in need off a creative midfield maestro with a killer pass, he doesn't fit that role at all. But I'd like him here to partner him up with a good midfielder that has a killer pass and brings more movement and creativity in the squad. Him, a good midfield maestro and Fletcher, Carrick and Fellaini as backup would be a fantastic midfield for us.
However if you would have to make a choice about brining in one midfielder, he shouldn't be the priority, we need a midfield maestro more than a CDM sweeper. But he could be a good addition for the summer if we start the major clear out. For this winter transferwindow I'd focus more on a player like Banega or Rakitic (or Koke, but that is a fallacy).
Carrick can provide the creative spark. I think we need a solid base rather than a creative midfielder paired with a ball winner. Carrick and him. Solid, strong defensively and let our front four attack.
According to El Mundo, Barca and Real are now also interested. That said, their name is seemingly added to every story.
Carrick wont and cant
Apparently we had him watched again last night. We watched him away from home against a shite team we probably have no interest in any player from. For some reason, that indicates the interest may be a bit serious.
Wouldn't be surprised to see this one come from left field on deadline day. Of course he isn't cup tied either.
Wouldn't be surprised to see this one come from left field on deadline day. Of course he isn't cup tied either.
Sounds like an eventual successor to carrick.
Apart from kagawa, I don't remember a story where we have had people from our coaching team 'watch' a player at the ground and actually end up buying them, I mean obviously we have scouts but there's lot of these stories around recently about likes of moyes/nev watching players, id imagine it wouldn't be as newsworthy if it was just the normal scouts. .. Could be wrong
Apart from kagawa, I don't remember a story where we have had people from our coaching team 'watch' a player at the ground and actually end up buying them, I mean obviously we have scouts but there's lot of these stories around recently about likes of moyes/nev watching players, id imagine it wouldn't be as newsworthy if it was just the normal scouts. .. Could be wrong
I do think we'll sign someone that will be able to potentially help us in Europe this season. Mata is obviously cup-tied, so I think we might get a player just to stabilize us a bit more.
Haven't seen much of him, but he sounds like a decent player reading reviews from those who watch him.
Haven't seen much of him, but he sounds like a decent player reading reviews from those who watch him.
We watched De Gea I think as well as Hazard (We made a bid for him).
he sounds like what we all expected cleverly to be.
From what I've read in this thread, sounds like he's a defensive midfielder, nothing like we expected cleverley to be.
From the little I've seen, he is nothing like Cleverley.
That's not what he said though is it? Still, sounds like a positive little player.
Okay, he is nothing like the player we expected Cleverley to be then. He seems to sit in front of his defence, this is not the expectation we had of Cleverley.
What did you expect cleverly to be then ?
The Saxon Iniesta.
Their only similarities are that they are both midfielders... They are completely different apart from that.
He really, really doesn't though.
maybe i expected too much from cleverly 
More scouting last night according to many of this morning's reports. I'm not sure how good or promising Carvalho is, but what I do know is we could do with a hard bastard who can cover ground quickly and beat people up. Because of this, I am interested in the persistent rumour.
Aye a bit of rough-housing can go a long way at the back. As brilliant a defender as Vida is/was he was nothing short of being a bully to forwards.
Unless he played against Torres - he seemed to have the measure of him. Only player who ever really seemed to trouble him.
Can a mod amend the thread title? It's driving me nuts.
Yeah it was that burst of pace Torres previously had that caused Vida trouble. He really didnt like it playing against a pacey forward. He should have just nutted the twunt and laid him out flat.
Indeed. Torres was unplayable when he had the burst of pace over 5 yards. Not been like that for years - never been the same since his knee injury before he moved to chelsea.
Indeed mate. You look at City's team. As soon as you cross the halfway line it seems like you are swarmed by a bunch of strapping men, wheras we seem wide open. In reality, we line up similarly, they have two in the middle, and the attacking players are no more defensively focused than ours. I think the key difference is that the likes of Toure and Fernandinho are strong aggressive feckers. Our hard man is Michael Carrick!
Someone like Carvalho alongside a box to box who can also do his bit, like a Vidal would suffice.
Want me to show ya the ropes Elliott?
Yep something like that would be ideal, however getting a player of Vidals ilk considering how prized top quality centre mids are is gonna be so difficult. We need to be courting these types of players right now and trying to get something in place for the summer. Otherwise I dread to think what it could be like next year
Actually not true, he had one awful game, the other's Torres got no Joy, but if anything, as far as "coming out on top in head to heads", Vidic must be 4-1 up, it was just how emphatic that 1 was for Torres that skews memories.
I dare not imagine what the ropes are for but, no, I definitely don't want to see them.
And even in that one game, the 1-4... what actually happened was that Vidic committed a ridiculously uncharacteristic mistake, totally miscontrolled a ball - any half-decent forward would have taken advantage of that. It really wasn't about Torres having Vidic's measure.
Vidic just somehow rarely did well against Liverpool. I mean he got sent off at Anfield in 2008 - Torres didn't even play in that game. But somehow, that one stupid mistake led to this myth that Vidic struggles against Torres. It was brought up again after we lost at Anfield in 2009 even though Torres actually outpaced Ferdinand for his goal...
Strange how we remember things isn't it, I'm sure I have plenty of these cases were I think things that in actuality are from reality...
Martin Tyler never fails to mention it, which is probably why a lot of people think it was the case.
Again I ask, could a mod edit the thread title? It's Carvalho.
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