Will there be a demonstration against the Glazers if Pochettino is appointed United manager?
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I don't think it's bizarre that so many think he's the best candidate among the realistic candidates currently available.
I do find it bizarre that some (many, even?) fans seemingly think he's practically guaranteed to pull a Klopp (and are hysterically imagining him going somewhere else to pull a Klopp there).
I won't deny that. We probably do, yes.
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A very small number really. Most of the time it’s been just one
I fecking hope so..
That would be one of the most ridiculous demonstrations you could ever have, dearie me. Protest the Glazers all you want for various reasons, but not protesting the appointing Pochettino who would be our best manager since Ferguson. Seriously, what the hell?
Lots of sensible stuff snipped…
A very small number really. Most of the time it’s been just one
Who?
Oh...yes, that guy.
Yes.
But before he emerged as a sheer parody (or before he took on the role as some kind of official one-man fan club), there were actually a considerable number of vocal pro-Poch posters on here (by which I mean posters who considered him the clear #1 candidate and frequently argued in favour of him).
Actually, the fact that the "brigade" as such has diminished probably has a lot to do with the fact that many at least semi-rational posters have realized that it isn't a good idea to be associated with that guy.
It really is and as another poster above said, the adoration is from people who have probably never watched Ajax play.
People have to remember he is older than both Pep and Poch and was on the verge of being sacked before that game against Real in their CL run to the semi's - when they were coincidentally beaten by Poch's spurs.
That said, I'd probably chose him over Poch who's big game record reminds me of Moyes big game record, that's the only reason I would prefer Ten Haag over Poch. I'll always remember our FC cup semi in 2018 v spurs when Poch said before the game that the FA cup wasn't important to spurs, that comment set the alarm bells ringing for me. I know little of Ten Haags big game record aside from that magical performance v Real.
I'm not sold on either to be perfectly honest. Whichever one takes a hard line with the existing squad would be the best choice.
Judging by the fan response, I think it would be met with an indifference from the majority of fans initially and he would have hit the ground running or it’ll turn bad fast. No doubt the ‘Premier League proven’ card would be used against him.
No fault of his own but his underwhelming stint at PSG wouldn’t be doing him any favours. I am told that the ‘circus’ at PSG is exaggerated a bit and it really isn’t too different to any other big club.
No fault of his own but his underwhelming stint at PSG wouldn’t be doing him any favours. I am told that the ‘circus’ at PSG is exaggerated a bit and it really isn’t too different to any other big club.
If we sign poch it means we're content with being the new everton.
There could be demonstration, but it won't be because of Pochettino.
A vocal minority of internet people will be typically furious but he'd be backed by match-going fans. He wouldn't get the same level of tolerance as Ole (for obvious reasons) but, unless he started really badly, they'd be relatively patient. Even if it was a shit-show from day one, the Glazers would bear the brunt of the negativity.
Personally, I feel this is far from ideal situation for ten Hag to come into if he becomes our manager (which I think will happen) and could potentially work against him.
The whole hype that's been created around him is a bit too much atm. That along with the fact that this team is not suited to his style of play could lead to a very disappointing start. Especially as ten Hag style is so attacking that at times he's been described as a bit of naive coach. He dominates possession, but doesn't want the ball just for the sake of it. He likely won't close the shop having 2-0 or 3-0 lead and is very likely to openly go against the likes of Pep/Klopp. He also doesn't rotate much which in EPL could be extremely risky. All this things in combination could lead to a very bumpy start of his career with some awful results and the whole hype can turn against him pretty soon. While what he needs the most is time on his side.
Since Fergie left, we were always one mythical player away from turning it around (Mata/Pogba/Sanchez/Sancho). Realizing our managers are far from ideal we then turned on them and thought all our problems will be solved with a new mythical manager coming in (LVG/Mourinho). And while manager or a coach is certainly the most important part, his surrounding must absolutely be in sync with him and his vision. Our recruitment system, strong technical stuff around him, our board and yeah, our fans too.
Ironically, Poch being looked as much lesser choice while being more pragmatic could lead to much more successful or steadier start. All together, I could see their potential managerial trajectory being fully opposite at United and I hope that our fans are aware of this.
Meaning they need to lower down their expectations when it comes to ten Hag, especially in his first season here. But, what's pretty much the most important thing is being aware that ten Hag may be failure as well and still not move away from the playing style we chose. Which would mean no new Mourinho after ten Hag, but someone who has similar attacking vision and shares similar approach to the game even if ten Hag doesn't work. If we can't commit to that idea and that plan then feck it, maybe it's better to just go for Pochettino after all is said and done.
So you actually believe that the Glazers would be putting themselves under fire for ignoring majority of the fans wishes, maybe not initially but if Pochettino doesn't work out?
This forum is worse than peak RAWK
Absolutely. They've got so much wrong for so long that they deserve to feel the heat for further bad decisions. It's way past time they started getting things right and we're at a critical juncture in the future of the club. They've barely made a rational call since Fergie retired though, so why would anyone hope for the right outcome?
That said, the Glazers should be marginally involved in this particular decision making process. It should be down to the DoF.
Also, a functioning club should make the right footballing decisions regardless of fan sentiment. If the relevant people within the club make worse decisions than the guy in the street, there's genuinely no hope for the club. And it's been like that for fecking years.
If Poch is hired and turns out to be a disaster, the Glazers will be in the firing line again. Rightly so.
It’s the anti-rawk. Rawk actually supported their club and players to the point of total delusion. When they were very average any negativity was censured North Korea style. This place hates on anything United related, current players, staff, match going fans, previous players, previous staff etc. It’s a toxic place dreams come to die.
Your memory is better than mine. Or at least has better resisted the bludgeoning that that guy has inflicted on the CAF for what feels like an eternity
I agree. Personally I think its a case of timing yet again......the right candidate isnt out there at the moment so eople are just craving any good youngish manager.
For me the right candaidate and the right time was two years ago, but as Ole was doing ok at that point, we stuck with him, wrongly. Nagelsmann I remember lots of people wrote off at the time as a modern flavour of the month type. Guy is younger than Ronaldo and a top top manager.
Klopp was the right manager and our timing was off. Who do we have now, older experienced managers who arent right fo rus long term. Talented coaches like Potter who probably would be overwhelemed and dont have the man management or authority....after all Ragnick is one......then its pretty much Pochetinno or Ten Hag.
I dont remember people raving at Ten Hag when SPurs were linked so much. I dont know much about him in all honesty, but Im not sure I see the man manager in him, which for me is more important than a coach, we have only had one since Fergie and that was Moyes, job was too big for him at the time though and he wasnt right man anyway. Van Gaal is a great coach, Mourinho was though a bit out dated, Ragnick even seems a good coach, are people desperate for a good coahc due to just how poor Ole and the staff seemed.....well look things havent improved with better players at the club since Ole and a good coach.
I hoenstly dont see Ten Hag as the answer, but I currently at least, simply dont see an answer. Pochetinno is a good manager, did very well at SPurs and in Spain but again, not the answer....but demonstrating if he gets the job over Ten Hag.....hahaha yet another totally mad thread
Yeah good point, but it has reached RAWK levels of ludicrous delusion one way or another, that's for sure
I’m not ashamed to say I don’t want Poch. I’ve never been convinced by him and his spell at “difficult” PSG hasn’t altered anything. It’s not like United won’t be difficult in its own way.
What I do struggle with is the conviction with which some anti-Poch posters are desperate to believe that “the Board” only have eyes for him and that his appointment is the inevitable conclusion of a long unrequited love affair. What evidence is there for this? United have had countless opportunities to employ him over the past nine years and yet have not done so.
What I do struggle with is the conviction with which some anti-Poch posters are desperate to believe that “the Board” only have eyes for him and that his appointment is the inevitable conclusion of a long unrequited love affair. What evidence is there for this? United have had countless opportunities to employ him over the past nine years and yet have not done so.
nah United
definitely not…. Many United supporters want Poch.
That's a coincidence because it also perfectly sums up the club since Fergie left
Nope. Our fans don't boo, don't protest. We just blindly clap and "support"
Of course not, even if you prefer Ten Hag, which I do, we should give Pochettino our full backing for christ sake
I believe a doctor can prescribe something for anxiety and mood swings, so the fanbase can seek help there.
What worries me more is if these online fans opinions actually carry some weight at the club. I really hope not.
No protest, but there’s sure to be a plane….
Factually incorrect but do continue.
Nah. We (and i count myself too) became like (geek alert) Sith from Star wars. No grey zone. Players and managers are either great or shit. ETH and Poch is just latest example.
Yes.
Have you? It seems that fewer than 10% of online United supporters want him here as manager.
This, basically. Though I think City may well beat us to Ten Hag regardless of what we do. Their current squad and style of play are a much better fit with Ten Hag's style than ours. Also, Van Gaal openly advising him not to come here doesn't help. Louis is highly regarded in The Netherlands.
“Human sacrifice! Dogs and cats living together! Mass hysteria!”
Please don't bring up us choosing Ole over Nagelsmann and this place somehow finding cause to celebrate it. I think ETH has a style that can challenge Pep if everything pans out and is definitely worth the risk but am also cautious very many screaming out their lungs won't actually like his football here. Many of us only recognize higher tempo styles and call anything remotely possession based zombie football. Klopp would have been the ideal fit. All the best fits have gone to our rivals but the last 2-3 years was the worst because we would have been spoilt for choice if we would just let go of Ole before the wheels came off. They were always going to come off. The deluded dreams about his capabilities really lived up to that disneyland pitch.