Who replaces Ten Hag?

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Maybe we can tell all the agents how much money the managers make when they get sacked and ask if their clients are interested in loads of money to take shit from the top and from the players for a year and half.
 
the point is that the club footballing structure needs an overhaul. We can keep hiring and firing managers and hope something clicks, but until we have the right structure many people believe it won’t.


1 person isn’t going to be the difference between success and failure at a club the size of Man Utd!
No it doesn’t, this is just an excuse people like to peddle because they want to give the manager more time to feck up more things. Do you honestly think Ten Hag would have been an amazing appointment if we had a DOF? Nothings going to change when we finally do appoint a DOF, it’s just going to be one more person to scrutinise and blame when the manager fecks up.

Like I said before, a competent DOF helps but it’s no silver bullet for a shite manager. Klopp transformed Liverpool, they had a structure similar to ours when he joined, and that’s the same situation for most clubs outside of City who have cheated to get Pep and set their club up for Pep to do what he wants with.

You get the manager right and you’d be amazed what else all of a sudden works. You shouldn’t be caveating a manager with ‘well if we had a DOF he’d succeed’, if that’s the case then he’s a bad manager.
 
I think on evidence of what’s he’s done with Newcastle, you’d have to say Eddie Howe is a superior manager to Ten Hag, right? I would say Newcastle, at least on pedigree, have a less talented squad than ours.

Of course, we wouldn’t be able to get him, but still, it seems like there are a few available managers who could potentially get results and install an identity.
 
No it doesn’t, this is just an excuse people like to peddle because they want to give the manager more time to feck up more things. Do you honestly think Ten Hag would have been an amazing appointment if we had a DOF? Nothings going to change when we finally do appoint a DOF, it’s just going to be one more person to scrutinise and blame when the manager fecks up.

Like I said before, a competent DOF helps but it’s no silver bullet for a shite manager. Klopp transformed Liverpool, they had a structure similar to ours when he joined, and that’s the same situation for most clubs outside of City who have cheated to get Pep and set their club up for Pep to do what he wants with.

You get the manager right and you’d be amazed what else all of a sudden works. You shouldn’t be caveating a manager with ‘well if we had a DOF he’d succeed’, if that’s the case then he’s a bad manager.

I take your points but we’ll have to agree to disagree. I refuse to believe 1 person is the difference between us being top 8 and challenging for titles.
 
Do we need a manager? Just let the players sort it out among themselves.
exactly what i was thinking. Let the players stroll in whenever they want, sancho can lead them in some sweet fifa club tourneys, and then while they party they can just sort out the starting lineup for the game then and just decide it all
 
There isn't a manager in world football that would get this squad playing well on a consistent basis over a 2-3 season period.

The culture, mentality, attitude and entire structure of this club from the top down is beyond a joke.

It genuinely does not matter who manages us. We are rotten from the inside out.

I believe we would have a new manager bounce of course, but nothing would change if we sacked Ten Hag. Not a single thing would change
I don't entirely disagree but it's quite possible a new manager might be able to learn from what hasn't worked over the last few months which ten hag seems incapable of. Ten hags tactical plan also appears hopelessly naive
 
Just checked out the odds on the next manager. Got up to 66/1 and didn't see anyone who would enthuse me.
 
Low-key think Marcelo Bielsa coming in and alienating a bunch of our players, flogging them off and installing some discipline before inevitably spiralling out of control and leaving over a row about the amount of Earl Grey tea bags in the cafeteria could work.

Probably better options out there, but I really think we need a stern disciplinarian, that can be strict about all standards would be good, and then we can bring in someone to play nice football afterwards. Think that's what Ten Hag is trying to do too, but a bunch of the players he's brought in haven't really worked out that well yet either.

That being said, I haven't given up on Ten Hag yet.
 
A new coach like De Zerbi will cost a fortune and I‘m not even sure he‘d want to manage MU. The job is seen as a crapshoot, Ten Hag wanted a challenge and boy he has gotten it.
 
Carlo Ancelotti, players like rashford, holjund and bruno will thrive under him

Not sure about Rashford thriving under anyone but I do agree that Ancelotti is definitely the most sensible and practical appointment we could make.

A pure winner who is tactically brilliant, proven to manage the very best and biggest egos, won everywhere he’s been and is out of contract in the summer with Real looking at Xabi Alonso.

Kieran McKenna worth a shout to keep an eye on in the coming years. Terrific at Ipswich, potential promotions in back to back seasons on the cards which is a hell of an achievement. Don't watch them but top scorers in league 1 last year and top scores in the championship this season too.

We've made appointments on less evidence..

I also said McKenna some time ago as he’s done an unbelievable job with Ipswich and could very well be managing in the PL next season, my only concern would be he wouldn’t be given the time needed at United right now so Ancelotti followed by McKenna is the best option in my eyes if Ancelotti can work his magic.
 
I would probably go for Nagelsman for next season. Also has a pretty solid history on signing players which fit his style of play.
 
Just checked out the odds on the next manager. Got up to 66/1 and didn't see anyone who would enthuse me.
Zidane is always favourite even though he never goes for it or has any interest in it

Second favourite will always be some underwhelming British manager like Rodgers or Potter

In reality it’ll be some interim who nobody ever considered, someone completely out of left field who inevitably fails
 
And in 18 months De Zerbi will get sacked, with fans complaining about his lack of credentials in the same way they are about EtH. We're stuck on a loop until deeper changes occur.
Maybe , Maybe not at least we will have a pattern of play and be competitive in big games?
 
Not sure about Rashford thriving under anyone but I do agree that Ancelotti is definitely the most sensible and practical appointment we could make.

A pure winner who is tactically brilliant, proven to manage the very best and biggest egos, won everywhere he’s been and is out of contract in the summer with Real looking at Xabi Alonso.



I also said McKenna some time ago as he’s done an unbelievable job with Ipswich and could very well be managing in the PL next season, my only concern would be he wouldn’t be given the time needed at United right now so Ancelotti followed by McKenna is the best option in my eyes if Ancelotti can work his magic.
Ancelotti turned vini from an absolute meme player to a top 3 best LW in the world,i believe he can do the same to rashford.

Carlo is good at coaching strikers, benz, drogba, inzagi, calvin all had their best season under carlo so i think holjund will thrive under him
 
It will be interim till the end of the season then well push for Carlo.
 
Ancelotti ? Oh man, when clubs are moving towards the new style we are going back in times. The first thing that need to change is the mentality of fans . Until that happens, we will be stuck in this loop for ever.
 
Is it possible for any manager to come in and succeed with our current player contract structure? As long as we're held hostage financially by player wages and transfer debt, the manager will never be fully backed. We need to blow it all up.
 
Going on recent history and how the club is run we'll go for whoever is trending. Whoever the fans fancy.
 
Tuchel was my sexy choice. I'm keeping an eye on Allegri, he's still a young man (56) and Italy has supplied 4 EPL winning managers. He's got a pretty practical approach I've been told (dour even they say), but I suspect he's malleable enough to adapt to English football. I've always liked Max.
 
You’d imagine INEOS will get a say in the next appointment. How do they handle their recruitment at Nice? Anyone know?

if this Blanc chap is coming in, I would imagine his input and opinion on the entire football structure would be significant.
 
Wouldn't you say he thrived last season when he scored 30 goals under our current manager?

One half season as the exception to the rule wouldn't you honestly say ? Let’s also be honest his all round game outside of the goals still wasn’t world class as some made out, I’m a Rashford fan in saying this as well but then Rashford is a conversation for another thread.
 
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