The Hilton
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I understand what he meant by "transitional" football. But he abandoned if after a couple of games. Just like he abandoned his plan of playing out of the back at the start of last season once beaten by Brighton and Brentford.
The idea was to have 2 x 8s (Mount and Bruno) playing further up the field. It left us completely exposed and wide open in midfield. As seen v Wolves and Spurs. And this was when we had a full team, minus Hojland.
You seem incapable of discussing this without hyperbole and obvious falsehoods. He absolutely has not abandoned any of his plans. We were still playing out from the back last season, although not as much as he wanted due to personnel and lack of ability, but that was a postponement, as we can see now this season. By the same token, we're still pressing high and still generating lots of turnovers, nothing has been abandoned. The Wolves and Spurs matches you highlight are both good examples of what we're doing well, and what we aren't doing well, and how the latter is holding us back. In both matches we generated tons of high turnovers, and would have been out of sight if we had made the most of them, but in both we were vulnerable and exposed due to players not committing to the press. Mount then got injured, which is why he's been out of the team, and I'd like to see him back in it sooner rather than later.
Agree, Postecoglou has more honors to his name, but they are from Japan, Australia and Scotland.
I would argue that successful years in Seria A and the Premier League counts for just as much as winning trophies in farmers leagues.
This is subjective then. I'd suggest you're overvaluing mid table finishes under no pressure or expectations whatsoever, as compared to actually winning things in several farmers league (with a team of said farmers), and having the experience of high pressure and expectations with Celtic. At United playing nice football and finishing 6th wouldn't be good enough, whereas winning stuff would be.
ETH has had the opportunities to sign his lynchpins - over 400mil spent. De Zerbi and Brighton have spent a quarter of that in the same time period.
Beyond Martinez, I dont think you could say any have been bona fide successes.
De Zerbi hasn't spent that money though, Brighton's excellent recruitment team have. If you were telling me we should be signing them, I'd be totally on board. As for ETH signing his lynchpins, he has and they led us to an improved finish last season. This season they've all been injured. If De Zerbi was in the same situation, forced to use a makeshift defence and at points having almost all of the players he signed being out injured, we wouldn't look great trying to play his style either.