Which midfielder should we buy to give Pogba more freedom

Fer said:
In a midfield of 3 (Matic, Pogba, New Player)

1. What would be the best option?
A deep-lying playmaker like Pjanic OR an energetic midfielder similar to Vidal.

2. Could we play a midfield of 3 with a CAM such as Eriksen/Fekir/Isco...

3. Do you truly believe Mourinho is going to abandon 4231 for 433?
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We need two new midfielders, one to play on the right side of a midfield three up with Pogba and functions like a box-2-box as well as someone who can play in the Matic role but is more of a Carrick sort of player.

My suggestions would be to get

1. Milinkovic-Savic or Thiago

2. Jorginho or Fabinho

My preference being Milinkovic-Savic and Fabinho

And I would use the remainder of the money to get Isco as a RF

ST - Lukaku/ Rashford/ Martial
LF - Sanchez/ Martial/ Angel Gomes
RF - Isco/ Martial/ Tahith Chong
LCM - Pogba/ McTominay
RCM - Milinkovic-Savic/ McTominay
CDM - Matic/ Fabinho
LB - Shaw/ Young
RB - Valencia/ TFM
RCB - Rojo/ Jones/ Tuanzebe
LCB - Bailly/ Smalling
GK - De Gea/ Romero
 
beingshe7don said:
We need two new midfielders, one to play on the right side of a midfield three up with Pogba and functions like a box-2-box as well as someone who can play in the Matic role but is more of a Carrick sort of player.

My suggestions would be to get

1. Milinkovic-Savic or Thiago

2. Jorginho or Fabinho

My preference being Milinkovic-Savic and Fabinho

And I would use the remainder of the money to get Isco as a RF

ST - Lukaku/ Rashford/ Martial
LF - Sanchez/ Martial/ Angel Gomes
RF - Isco/ Martial/ Tahith Chong
LCM - Pogba/ McTominay
RCM - Milinkovic-Savic/ McTominay
CDM - Matic/ Fabinho
LB - Shaw/ Young
RB - Valencia/ TFM
RCB - Rojo/ Jones/ Tuanzebe
LCB - Bailly/ Smalling
GK - De Gea/ Romero
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I don't think Martial deserves the bench, I'm not sure Milinkovic-Savic and Pogba give Matic enough cover. Also McTominay cannot be the backup for both 8 positions let alone one.
 
Cassidy said:
I don't think Martial deserves the bench, I'm not sure Milinkovic-Savic and Pogba give Matic enough cover. Also McTominay cannot be the backup for both 8 positions let alone one.
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Martial can't play on the right and unless we decide to bench Lukaku since Sanchez will heavily feature on the left side. As for Milinkovic-Savic, he's a No. 8 and box to box midfielder just like Pogba and I feel if Pogba is further front in attack during a specific situation, he will Milinkovic-Savic could drop back. The other reason for getting Savic is also to not make our midfield light weight when Pogba is missing due to injury or suspension. And Matic wouldn't be my first choice as I would prefer to have Fabinho take over from Matic. I wouldn't even mind getting Fabinho and Jorginho but the bottom line is we need two central midfielders (NO.8 and NO. 6) and also a RF/ RW since we have no quality attack from the right.
 
beingshe7don said:
Martial can't play on the right and unless we decide to bench Lukaku since Sanchez will heavily feature on the left side. As for Milinkovic-Savic, he's a No. 8 and box to box midfielder just like Pogba and I feel if Pogba is further front in attack during a specific situation, he will Milinkovic-Savic could drop back. The other reason for getting Savic is also to not make our midfield light weight when Pogba is missing due to injury or suspension. And Matic wouldn't be my first choice as I would prefer to have Fabinho take over from Matic. I wouldn't even mind getting Fabinho and Jorginho but the bottom line is we need two central midfielders (NO.8 and NO. 6) and also a RF/ RW since we have no quality attack from the right.
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Sanchez
 
Basically next to Pogba you want someone like Modric or Kroos, who can dictate the tempo of games. Basically if you look at Barca's classic midfield 3, they had Busquets covering, Xavi controlling and Iniesta being the creative one (but of course also controlling). Pogba would do best in the Iniesta type role, where he can roam and do a bit of everything, while we need that all important midfielder who can dictate the tempo of games, is creative in his passing but also a proper central midfielder, and then Matic is the holding mid. Obviously we wouldn't play the same style as barca, but the midfield 3 balance stands.

I've seen some talk about Jorginho, and while he would do the controlling role well, we would then need a defensively minded box to box IMO ahead of him. So it would then be jorginho controlling from deep, someone like Herrera (if he was at his best) on the right, and pogba left. Pogba has to be the most attack minded though. That's his best position. Though saying all that, he simply has to do better and work harder himself, but in terms of bringing the best out of him, it'd be that.
 
Infra-red said:
I expect he'll be playing mostly from the left at United, with one of Martial/Rashford/Mata on the right and Lingard through the middle.
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Either way I don't think another wide player is a priority. Martial and Sanchez should fill those spots.
 
beingshe7don said:
If Sanchez was to be used as a RF/ RW, Mourinho would have already tried him out there by now instead of meddling and disrupting Martial's confidence and form.
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I'm talking of what we need. We don't need to buy a RW RF we need to use Sanchez there or Martial ( I prefer Sanchez, right now Mou prefers Martial)
 
Cassidy said:
Either way I don't think another wide player is a priority. Martial and Sanchez should fill those spots.
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Midfielders are priority but in the hierarchy, I would put RF/ RW as the next possible need. Our team is looking more and more like the American Democratic Party. We need some balance
 
Cassidy said:
I'm talking of what we need. We don't need to buy a RW RF we need to use Sanchez there or Martial ( I prefer Sanchez, right now Mou prefers Martial)
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Martial is a similar mold of player as Henry who cuts in and shoots like an inside forward. We need someone who can provide width on the right. Therefore, after solving the midfield issues, RF/ RW would be issue to address since Valencia does not provide many crosses. We blame Lukaku for not scoring when most of the time we try to play the ball through the middle to him. And on the left, our wingers like to cut in and shoot and when they pass the ball to Lukaku, it's still centrally operated. We need width and crossing. That's what United was built on.
 
beingshe7don said:
Martial is a similar mold of player as Henry who cuts in and shoots like an inside forward. We need someone who can provide width on the right. Therefore, after solving the midfield issues, RF/ RW would be issue to address since Valencia does not provide many crosses. We blame Lukaku for not scoring when most of the time we try to play the ball through the middle to him. And on the left, our wingers like to cut in and shoot and when they pass the ball to Lukaku, it's still centrally operated. We need width and crossing. That's what United was built on.
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I'd argue it makes more sense to replace Valencia
 
Cassidy said:
I'd argue it makes more sense to replace Valencia
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We could replace Valencia if that's the case. I wouldn't mind that at all but he seems to have cemented himself as first choice RB considering he's the captain and so on. Walker or Azpi would have worked wonders for us right now and helped Lukaku score more in my opinion. Shaw needs to be given a continuous run at LB in my opinion. Playing Young every now and then just breaks Shaw's rhythm. He needs more game time even if it means being substituted.

One more thing is that Rashford is in danger of turning into Walcott where Rashford will be 25 and won't be an established striker or a winger. He'll just be an inbetween player. I really hope that Rashford needs gave time upfront to develop the striker's instinct. Versatility can be a curse sometimes.
 
The perfect player to complement Matic and Pogba is basically the player that Ander Herrera is supposed to be, but that sadly he isn't.
 
Sign Fekir and put him as a number 8 !!! ....He is gonna be a beast soon...

Bring back Pereira and let him be the Carrick replacement !
 
I’d go for Dembele... at the end of the season he’ll have just a year left on his contract.

Offer Spurs a reasonable amount of money and we could easily double his wages. They won’t be keen to sell but if his head could be turned and he’ll only have a year left on his contract... they may prefer to cash in.
 
This is the tricky for us, in yesterday's presser Jose talked about the fact he played Lingard as a #8, so we were using two #8's in front of a #6, now it didn't work obviously due to the fact Jesse doesn't understand the position and doesn't have the attributes for any version of it, but if that signals the intent that the second #8 must provide attacking threat as well, it brings into question Matic as most #8's that will supply forwards aren't usually that great at helping the DM, like if you look at City and Real who use the system, Fernandinho and Casemiro are monster DM's at closing space and covering ground.
 
Hitchez said:
Why would you sign Fekir and then play him as a #8? He's not a #8 and neither is Pereira for that matter.
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Fekir has been playing deep for some time. If you would have watched him then you could understand that he can be our own KbB . He can pick a pass , can dribble past players, damn good close control and doesn't loose possession often too. He reads the game well and defend well too. Whoever getting him will get an absolute fantastic player .

Pereira is a CM ( for Jose too ). If he is coming back at united then he would be our squad option for #8. Jose doesn't see him any role other than CM from his previous comments which I fully agree with. Whether he can be our Carrick replacement is another question though. But I believe he will be a good understudy to both Matic and #8 if we are switching to 4-3-3.
 
I agree with most of the posts here and some quality players have been mentioned. One player I’d love to see at United is Mousa Dembele from spurs. He bullies every midfielder he comes up against and is a good ball winner. I remember us being linked with him years ago when he played with Fulham. I believe this would give Pogba the freedom to play.

I like the 4-2-3-1 system but Pogba is clearly better behind Lukaku. We also need to get Luke Shaw back in the team. Best left back in England sitting on the bench is no good.
 
The thread title speaks volumes.

I can't imagine Spurs fans asking "which midfielder do we need to sign to give player X more freedom."
 
GlastonSpur said:
The thread title speaks volumes.

I can't imagine Spurs fans asking "which midfielder do we need to sign to give player X more freedom."
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:lol: Relentless. Spurs fans obsession about Pogba is very weird.
 
roonster09 said:
:lol: Relentless. Spurs fans obsession about Pogba is very weird.
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I think it's more a reflection of United's fans coming up with variety of reasons as to why, you know, Pogba has been distinctly underwhelming since returning from Serie A.
 
I think Fabinho would be a good choicec
 
GlastonSpur said:
I think it's more a reflection of United's fans coming up with variety of reasons as to why, you know, Pogba has been distinctly underwhelming since returning from Serie A.
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Yeah considering Pogba creates more chances than all the Spurs Center Mids combined, it's very valid opinion to discuss which midfielder we have to sign to give more freedom for our most creative player.

To put in binary which is your favourite, Dembele has 7 assists in PL since he joined Spurs, Pogba has almost as many (6) in just 3 games.

That's the role Pogba plays.
 
GlastonSpur said:
I think it's more a reflection of United's fans coming up with variety of reasons as to why, you know, Pogba has been distinctly underwhelming since returning from Serie A.
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He hasn't. Stop talking shite. Been one of our best players over the last couple of years and we miss him every time he's out.
 
roonster09 said:
Yeah considering Pogba creates more chances than all the Spurs Center Mids combined, it's very valid opinion to discuss which midfielder we have to sign to give more freedom for our most creative player.

To put in binary which is your favourite, Dembele has 7 assists in PL since he joined Spurs, Pogba has almost as many (6) in just 3 games.

That's the role Pogba plays.
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Dembele plays in a midfield 2 (alongside either Dier or Wanyama). Isn't that precisely what many United fans says Pogba can't do well?
 
GlastonSpur said:
Dembele plays in a midfield 2 (alongside either Dier or Wanyama). Isn't that precisely what many United fans says Pogba can't do well?
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Yes because Pogba is attack oriented player, who creates plenty of chances. He isn't a DM, if he was then he could play in midfield 2 alongside one more defensive player.

It's like people have different strengths and weaknesses. If CM are rated on their attack score then Dembele would near bottom.

Btw, all the Pogba's assists are from midfield 2 except Everton, so yeah playing in midfield 2 never stopped Pogba creating chances and have more assists than Dembele did in his entire Spurs career.
 
Everyday which midfielder will make pogba better? Maybe pogba is the problem..did you all geniuses ever think about that?
 
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roonster09 said:
Yes because Pogba is attack oriented player, who creates plenty of chances. He isn't a DM, if he was then he could play in midfield 2 alongside one more defensive player.

It's like people have different strengths and weaknesses. If CM are rated on their attack score then Dembele would near bottom.

Btw, all the Pogba's assists are from midfield 2 except Everton, so yeah playing in midfield 2 never stopped Pogba creating chances and have more assists than Dembele did in his entire Spurs career.
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How many Spurs fans would wish to swap Pogba for Dembele? My guess is zero.
 
GlastonSpur said:
How many Spurs fans would wish to swap Pogba for Dembele? My guess is zero.
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So what? Some ManUtd fans didn't want to sign Neymar because we had Martial.

Who cares what Spurs fan think, especially some troll.
 
GlastonSpur said:
The thread title speaks volumes.

I can't imagine Spurs fans asking "which midfielder do we need to sign to give player X more freedom."
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You'd have the exact same thread on a Spurs forum if Pochettino continuously tried to play Dele as a CM in a 2 just because he's tall and athletic.
 
GlastonSpur said:
The thread title speaks volumes.

I can't imagine Spurs fans asking "which midfielder do we need to sign to give player X more freedom."
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It speaks volumes because every move Manchester United makes is over analyzed because Manchester United is the only name in british football that makes money. Martin Samuel said it and its demonstrably true. All the media cares about with Spurs is when Poch, Kane and Ali will leave and who to.
 
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