Agree here if ETH has no plans to use him as a regular off the bench. He needs games to improve or he'll stagnate. But we need to protect our interest in case he clicks and a new coach wants him back.I said a few years ago it would be his temperament which prevents him having a career at United. I now think the best option for all parties is to sell with buy-back and sell on clauses included. He needs to play regular first team football for the good of his career.
We want to sell allegedly, it’s Rangers who want the loan. Typical tight Scots.I think he'd do well in Scotland, a year at Rangers could be the making of him.
That’s an oxymoronbig Scottish club
Agree with this entirely.I'm convinced he's a decent player but whether he'll show it in time before being moved on is another question.
If we played with a three in midfield he'd link up well with Mainoo as they're similar technical players. Given we play with a 10 though I'm not really sure where he fits.
We won’t get £10m from the clubs he’s being linked with and honestly with how little he’s achieved in grown ups football I don’t think he’s going to gather much interest from clubs who can pay that.I'd like to think we could get £10million with big sell on and buy back clauses. That being said I'd sooner keep him than McT. If selling both gets us Ugarte then yes please.
I think that's asking a lot.I'd like to think we could get £10million with big sell on and buy back clauses. That being said I'd sooner keep him than McT. If selling both gets us Ugarte then yes please.
It might suit him. The early move to Scotland helped the development of Gattuso and Arteta. Forced them to grow their game in new ways.I think he'd do well in Scotland, a year at Rangers could be the making of him.
Yeah, a Rangers move could go either way.It might suit him. The early move to Scotland helped the development of Gattuso and Arteta. Forced them to grow their game in new ways.
A few questioning his rashness and decision-making - that is the sort of stuff that gets exposed in the bubble of Scottish football and the pressure cooker of an Old Firm match.
Rangers won’t have the money to pay upward of £5m. A loan to buy similar to what we did in plucking Diomande from the Danish league is more likely. Rangers have shifted their transfer strategy towards younger players with potential for sell-on so in theory this could tick boxes for player and club.
Just don’t see how that works for us though as he’s out of contract next summer and on a free transfer. I’d rather us sell for a fee around what you mention with add-ons, sell-on clause etc as well.It might suit him. The early move to Scotland helped the development of Gattuso and Arteta. Forced them to grow their game in new ways.
A few questioning his rashness and decision-making - that is the sort of stuff that gets exposed in the bubble of Scottish football and the pressure cooker of an Old Firm match.
Rangers won’t have the money to pay upward of £5m. A loan to buy similar to what we did in plucking Diomande from the Danish league is more likely. Rangers have shifted their transfer strategy towards younger players with potential for sell-on so in theory this could tick boxes for player and club.
Don't see why he couldn't do a Fred engine role type player for us if he can be slick with his tackling.
Aye, good point. Scottish football is very cynical and anyone with a (perceived or real) weakness in temperament will be relentlessly wound up.Yeah, a Rangers move could go either way.
On the one hand, they'll have plenty of the ball against many of the domestic opponents, and hopefully he'll be allowed to play a CM role like a #8 and get on the ball much more and get to display his technical side.
However, playing for one of the (comparatively) huge Old Firm sides, he might well have to deal with the similar kind of dirty and cynical tactics of opponents that he did in our youth system. And hopefully he'll either be protected more by refs, or show that he's learned how to deal with it better.
They're an absolute basket case at the moment.Not sure it's a good place for him.I think he'd do well in Scotland, a year at Rangers could be the making of him.
I’d put money on him getting overexcited and sent off or hooked than handling it.Aye, good point. Scottish football is very cynical and anyone with a (perceived or real) weakness in temperament will be relentlessly wound up.
I like the notion of a more combative all-rounder in midfield though. At times we've either been a bit soft in a physical battle or lacking the creative ability to break down packed defences on poor pitches.
I'd sell him. He should be able to fetch 15-20m EUR, you'd think
I don’t get it with him. Yes he was overhyped - but when he actually got the chance to play a few games, I felt he was actually decent. Definitely not as good as Mainoo, but not as bad as some of our other midfielders
Really wouldn’t mind having him as a squad option here - felt we missed Fred at times last year and I think he can replicate his energy