What is Luis Suarez worth?

FWIW, he is quite a flat track bully.

All good footballers score more against weaker opposition. But he scored against us before, I remember a couple of goals at least against Chelsea. Seems like every top footballer goes through this stage where people say he doesn't score enough against the big teams. Until he does or they realise that he does.
 
If he goes at any time within the next year it'll be for £55-£60m at least I'd imagine. I'm 95% confident he'll not be going anywhere in January though.
 
I can see Madrid going after him next summer properly. He is easily inside the top 5 best players in the league.
 
All good footballers score more against weaker opposition. But he scored against us before, I remember a couple of goals at least against Chelsea. Seems like every top footballer goes through this stage where people say he doesn't score enough against the big teams. Until he does or they realise that he does.

He's been absolutely invisible in all bar one of his matches against us. Despite some decent matches and moments against good teams, there's always going to be a hint of the flat track bully when such a huge proportion of his goals come in braces and hat-tricks against lesser sides.
 
I can see Madrid going after him next summer properly. He is easily inside the top 5 best players in the league.

Who would you have as better than him?

FWIW, he is quite a flat track bully.

Disregarding the fact that this isn't true, I'm perfectly fine with him helping us do what youse did in 08/09 and helping us thrash the bottom 13 or 14 teams while taking minimal points against the top teams.
 
He's been absolutely invisible in all bar one of his matches against us. Despite some decent matches and moments against good teams, there's always going to be a hint of the flat track bully when such a huge proportion of his goals come in braces and hat-tricks against lesser sides.

He's scored against City, Chelsea, Arsenal and Everton and put in brilliant performances against each.
 
Who would you have as better than him?



Disregarding the fact that this isn't true, I'm perfectly fine with him helping us do what youse did in 08/09 and helping us thrash the bottom 13 or 14 teams while taking minimal points against the top teams.
I would say the best 5 players in the league would be Rooney, Toure, Suarez, RVP and based on name Ozil. I refuse to give an order as I will be bias as will you.

Suarez, Oscar and Ramsey have been the best so far this season as far as form is concerned.


Edit:
Aguero unluckly to miss out on both my lists.
 
Right, for the Arsenal fans that are having wet Suarez dreams. Put down whatever you're smoking. Give Wenger his pipe back. And make the cheque out for £80m IF we DON'T FINISH top four. If we do then it's £120m. You can forget player exchanges. :)

Otherwise he can leave for Madrid for £70m, which may be the most likely outcome. Though PSG, City and Chelsea may prefer entering a childish bidding war. :)
You're a spastic, and if he moves it'll be for less than those sums you've mentioned.
 
He is worth whatever a club will pay. But in comparison terms, I'd argue he's better than both Cavani and Falcao, who both went for big sums in the Summer. I'd assume Liverpool would be looking for around £60 million and I wouldn't blame them. After Van Persie, he's the second best player in the league for my money.
 
He's scored against City, Chelsea, Arsenal and Everton and put in brilliant performances against each.

He's scored against United too, despite doing feck all else in that match. His only good performance against us was when he enabled Kuyt's two-yard hattrick. The point is that people point to his admittedly rather impressive goalscoring tally since the last start of the season as some undoubtable proof of his being one of the best in the world, but the man absolutely loves hattricks against Wigan and Norwich and braces against Sunderland and Fulham.

In RVP's last season at Arsenal and his first at Man United he scored two in two matches against United, two in two against Arsenal, four in four against Chelsea, four in four against Liverpool, and an admittedly paltry (if rather important) one in four against Man City. I would suggest that If Suarez really wants to be in the top bracket he needs to be matching that, although RVP has admittedly fallen away from that level himself of late.
 
He's worth a lot. Until he does his usual idiotic action sometime this year and then his value drops again.
 
£50m would snare him. I think he's the best player in the league right now. He's clinical, productive and clearly on another level to his team that are sat 2nd. That says a lot.
 
Gerrard is probably a good comparison actually. Both are almost absurdly talented footballers whose mental limitations have held them back from potentially being true greats.
 
They are second in the league now. In November. A third of the way through the league after an easy start.

They, like yourselves, won't be anywhere near it come May.

I think we'll be able to make fairer judgements on all teams once everyone's played everyone. Incidentally Liverpool's 16th, 18th and 19th matches are away to Spurs, City and Chelsea. I suspect they won't be second after that...
 
In RVP's last season at Arsenal and his first at Man United he scored two in two matches against United, two in two against Arsenal, four in four against Chelsea, four in four against Liverpool, and an admittedly paltry (if rather important) one in four against Man City. I would suggest that If Suarez really wants to be in the top bracket he needs to be matching that, although RVP has admittedly fallen away from that level himself of late.

The current Liverpool side is easily the best Suarez has played with. So I'd suggest seeing how he does for the rest of the season before making declarations.
 
Well, so far this season he's been to Old Trafford and the Emirates and done the square root of feck all, and scored braces and a hattrick against Sunderland, Fulham and West Brom.

We'll wait and see, I suppose.
 
Well, so far this season he's been to Old Trafford and the Emirates and done the square root of feck all, and scored braces and a hattrick against Sunderland, Fulham and West Brom.

We'll wait and see, I suppose.

It's extremely harsh to use the Old Trafford game against him, considering he hadn't played in a few months for us.

Against Arsenal he was average, but his support behind him was abysmal.
 
They are second in the league now. In November. A third of the way through the league after an easy start.

They, like yourselves, won't be anywhere near it come May.

You've played one more "top team" than us and lie in eighth. Your start has been nearly just as easy.
 
Class talent. The PL is lower than any point in the last ten years on truly top quality players many would say but he is one.

I hope he stays in the PL but wouldn't be surprised if he leaves. I would think £55m would be the rock bottom price.
 
Chelsea, Liverpool, City in the first 5 games. If that isn't a difficult start, then I don't know what is.

As far as I'm aware, he was talking about games up to now, not the first five games. When that post was made, the toughe teams you had played were City, Chelsea us, Southampton and Swansea. We had played Arsenal, youse, Southampton and Swansea. Not a huge difference.
 
As far as I'm aware, he was talking about games up to now, not the first five games. When that post was made, the toughe teams you had played were City, Chelsea us, Southampton and Swansea. We had played Arsenal, youse, Southampton and Swansea. Not a huge difference.
You should mention Newcastle too if you mention Swansea. And you have already played Newcastle away.

I don't think it's much between us and your fixtures so far, both just as hard.
 
As far as I'm aware, he was talking about games up to now, not the first five games. When that post was made, the toughe teams you had played were City, Chelsea us, Southampton and Swansea. We had played Arsenal, youse, Southampton and Swansea. Not a huge difference.
City and Chelsea aren't a huge difference?
 
You should mention Newcastle too if you mention Swansea. And you have already played Newcastle away.

I don't think it's much between us and your fixtures so far, both just as hard.

Good shout. Including Arsenal today, yours are a bit harder, but there's not too much in it.
 
An honest price for Suarez should land somewhere about £30m, however, on todays market he's probably worth something crazy like £35-38m.
 
He's not very good at math. English schools, tut. No one tell him 40m+penny is considered more.
 
He's probably worth between 40-50 million, as much as anyone in the premier league IMO. Liverpool won't let him go for anything less then 60m I think though, nor should they. Don't think he'll be going anywhere unless Madrid offers like 70 million for him, especially if they get into the champions league.