What if Liverpool win the league this year?

Treble_Winning said:
In the meantime, we have already won a trophy, we are poised to win the FA Cup and Europa League, we havent lost a game in ages, we are looking very hard to beat even when we don't play well, and we are playing better and better. Those idiots giving us stick for being in sixth place, well I wonder who is laughing now???

Jose who they thought was past it has already won more than Klopp in far less time, and he is poised to win 2 more trophies while Klopp has surely got to be fearing for his job if he ends the season with nothing, no top four, no trophies, despite all that early bluster!
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Well done for jinxing it now.
 
When Poo were on a good run it was because they were relying on a high intensity pressing game, rather than quality football. It was effective for awhile, but thats VERY difficult to sustain for a whole season. Meanwhile we were getting stick for not scoring in the first half of games.... Maybe Mourinho knows what he's doing after all (shocker)

Now we're getting stick for celebrating a "mere" League Cup win. Well tough, I am still buzzing, and last nights result didnt dent that atall :D
 
*Off to search for PickledRed and Rafateria's posts in this thread*
 
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I just realised your man in the middle says "I don't believe it"... hahaha love this
 
Treble_Winning said:
Well, I was called all sorts of things (by both Liverpool and UTD fans) when I made the following assertions in early January -

1) Liverpool's defence is shambolic and a joke

2) Liverpool's playing style would cause their players to tire out, and Klopp has no Plan B

3) Liverpool's overall squad quality is weak, they were punching above their weight, and they were going to finish lower than UTD this season

4) there is no way that Liverpool are title contenders and in fact they would not even finish in the top four

I hate to say "I told you so" but well, I told you so!

Klopp was vastly over rated as a manager and the Liverpool squad were vastly over rated as well. The "Gegen Pressing" tactic was certain to get found out, and more than that, it would self destruct because their own players would tire out EVEN though they have no European games. Can you imagine if they did have European games? They would be doing even worse. They do not have the squad depth to be able to rotate players, and their playing style was always going to leave them exhausted and fatigued.

I think that's ONE game they have won in 2017, how embarrassing. To think that people were crowning Liverpool was champions-elect in November / December and Klopp himself was buying into the hype. The Liverpool of today is a nothing club, they aren't challenging for shit, no title, no cups, eliminated from the league cup by Southampton, even top four is looking out of reach now. They are a club on the decline (if that were even possible.. they have been in decline for years but are declining even more lol) and the momentum is totally against them.

Liverpool's level is not far above Everton's level, and certainly nowhere near the other top teams.

In the meantime, we have already won a trophy, we are poised to win the FA Cup and Europa League, we havent lost a game in ages, we are looking very hard to beat even when we don't play well, and we are playing better and better. Those idiots giving us stick for being in sixth place, well I wonder who is laughing now???

Jose who they thought was past it has already won more than Klopp in far less time, and he is poised to win 2 more trophies while Klopp has surely got to be fearing for his job if he ends the season with nothing, no top four, no trophies, despite all that early bluster!
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Yes :devil:
 
I think Carragher has had enough. He called Liverpool a disgrace on TV. Even he seems to be running out of excuses!

As for Klopp, we should all get ready for more unhinged behaviour from him in the coming weeks. He must be fearing the axe after promising so much but delivering so little. He has had three transfer windows now, he has no excuse. In his post-match interview he said that the players now need to play for their futures. He should speak for himself. He's been well and truly exposed, he had ONE game plan and it was never going to work, it was always going to tire his players out, bunch of bottlers that they are. It's not like they have 11 Zlatans willing to run themselves into the ground to carry the team.

Seriously over rated team and manager, I knew they would amount to nothing as soon as the business end of the season came around.
 
Aaaaaaaand relax.

Hopefully they pull themselves together and scrape a draw against Arsenal.
 
Spirit of Solskjaer said:
I highly doubt they're going to win the title. Their defence is nowhere near title winning standard and that will catch up with them. They seem like a classic erratic team that might tear a top side apart one week and limp to a home loss against relegation fodder the next. All the other title challengers seem much more consistent.

That being said, I think they'll definitely finish above Utd :nervous:
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This guy pretty much called it, hopefully not the last point though.
 
I think their drop just highlights the fact that he didnt properly address problem areas in the team

Like, how has he not bought a leftback yet. It has got to be a priority for them in the summer
 
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sallycinnamin said:
The delayed reaction from the one with the Ronnie Corbett glasses gets me every time :lol:.
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To me it seems like he's trying to turn what just happened into a good thing. Like "wait a second, hold your horses, maybe this could actually... oh, feck me"
 
Liverpool are highly dependent on their system to thrive because they don't have the quality. When the system malfunctions so does their quality.
 
Still 12 games to go. Our unbeaten run will end at some point, we are by no means a shoe-in for the FA Cup (Chelsea away) or the Europa League (a lot of games left, Rostov are an unknown quantity); but we're definitely in a better position than Liverpool are at the moment. One point behind them in the league with a game in-hand; trophy already secured; still in two other competitions.

Klopp's pressing style relies on very athletic, very well-drilled, tactically-astute players, and Liverpool's lack of European football helped them in the early parts of the season. The introduction of the FA Cup, plus EFL Cup games, plus losing both Coutinho to injury and Mane to the African Cup of Nations have all contributed to their burn-out. Arguably this training camp in La Manga hasn't done them any good either, but we'll see. Carragher also made good points last night about Milner playing at full back and Lucas at centre half.

Wouldn't surprise me one bit if they absolutely smash Arsenal, such is their inconsistency. And United always have a 0-0 or a 1-1 in them (i.e. Stoke, Burnley, Hull), so things can still change very quickly. Three points against Bournemouth is by no means guaranteed.
 
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sallycinnamin said:
The delayed reaction from the one with the Ronnie Corbett glasses gets me every time :lol:.
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Yeah he's the best. You can see him thinking "We're still good, 3:3 is alright....oh wait..."
 
It seems like only yesterday when people were saying Klopp and Conte were the best managers in the league, "United's players would struggle to get into this Liverpool side", "Henderson is better than Pogba" and all that other rubbish.

Laughed at it back then and I'm laughing even harder now.

Liverpool were in good form... thats it. I predicted when the second half of the season came round, they would collapse and they did. Their players are midtable players. And as much as they try to delude themselves into thinking "ANY TEAM WOULD WANT KLOPP/COUTINHO"... they're wrong.

Klopp isn't a world class manager. Mourinho and Pep are world class managers. Ancelotti is a world class manager. Their trophy cabinets speak for themselves. Klopp has choked in his last 5 finals and he got found out against Wolves, Southampton, Swansea, Burnley, Bournemouth and now a desperate Leicester team who haven't even got a manager. It's a shambles and I can't help but think they treated poor Brendan Rodgers unfairly. Cause at the end of the day... whats changed really? Who did Klopp sign that Rodgers wouldn't? There's very little difference in the style of play that Liverpool were playing in 13/14 and the style Klopp was playing at the start of the season. He just put a fancy word on it and all the deluded scousers bought into it.

Things at Liverpool will never improve until they start attracting world class players. And I don't think they're capable of that. Klopp is a "building" manager. He wouldn't splash 70m on one player. And ultimately, thats what Liverpool need. A ruthless manager who isn't afraid to splash the cash and kick out the average.
 
royboy16 said:
Some title challenge collapse,I wouldnt write them off for top 4 yet though the way this season has gone.
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Well, considering they are still ahead of us, I don't think anyone should write their top 4 hopes off yet. Title race is over for everyone bar Chelsea and at a big push City.
 
in fairness Liverpool did look irresistible early in the season - even up until about November/December

playing great football
winning away at Arsenal, Chelsea, drawing at Spurs....
scoring plenty of goals...
having a week to prepare for each match...

last night they were very very poor - reminded me of Ranieri a few weeks ago when Leicester looked like they had given up
 
Jaybomb said:
It seems like only yesterday when people were saying Klopp and Conte were the best managers in the league, "United's players would struggle to get into this Liverpool side", "Henderson is better than Pogba" and all that other rubbish.

Laughed at it back then and I'm laughing even harder now.

Liverpool were in good form... thats it. I predicted when the second half of the season came round, they would collapse and they did. Their players are midtable players. And as much as they try to delude themselves into thinking "ANY TEAM WOULD WANT KLOPP/COUTINHO"... they're wrong.

Klopp isn't a world class manager. Mourinho and Pep are world class managers. Ancelotti is a world class manager. Their trophy cabinets speak for themselves. Klopp has choked in his last 5 finals and he got found out against Wolves, Southampton, Swansea, Burnley, Bournemouth and now a desperate Leicester team who haven't even got a manager. It's a shambles and I can't help but think they treated poor Brendan Rodgers unfairly. Cause at the end of the day... whats changed really? Who did Klopp sign that Rodgers wouldn't? There's very little difference in the style of play that Liverpool were playing in 13/14 and the style Klopp was playing at the start of the season. He just put a fancy word on it and all the deluded scousers bought into it.

Things at Liverpool will never improve until they start attracting world class players. And I don't think they're capable of that. Klopp is a "building" manager. He wouldn't splash 70m on one player. And ultimately, thats what Liverpool need. A ruthless manager who isn't afraid to splash the cash and kick out the average.
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If Liverpool can't attract world class players then why is Klopp not being willing to spend on a world class player relevant?

He wouldn't be able to even if he wanted to.

I don't see the point in getting rid of him anyway, even if we end up 7th or 8th again. So what if we go a couple more seasons not winning anything? Nothing will change and it's unlikely that any of the sides below us are going to force us further down the table when they're spending their big money on the likes of Ibe, Zaza, Bolasie and Benteke.

We're stuck where we are unless we go down the City/Chelsea route in my opinion, so why not be patient and see if Klopp can learn from his mistakes. Managers develop and learn just like players do.
 
JB08 said:
This guy pretty much called it, hopefully not the last point though.
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Haha, I got Liverpool's title challenge collapsing correct, I just couldn't predict us getting our shit together to the extent that we have :D It really didn't seem at the time like we would.
 
Klopper76 said:
If Liverpool can't attract world class players then why is Klopp not being willing to spend on a world class player relevant?

He wouldn't be able to even if he wanted to.

I don't see the point in getting rid of him anyway, even if we end up 7th or 8th again. So what if we go a couple more seasons not winning anything? Nothing will change and it's unlikely that any of the sides below us are going to force us further down the table when they're spending their big money on the likes of Ibe, Zaza, Bolasie and Benteke.

We're stuck where we are unless we go down the City/Chelsea route in my opinion, so why not be patient and see if Klopp can learn from his mistakes. Managers develop and learn just like players do.
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If Liverpool had Ancelotti, there would be a lot of players wanting to play under him.

Klopp on the other hand, can't hold onto his top players. Gotze, Lewandowski, Kagawa and more left him high and dry.
 
Crystal Palace were joint 4th December before last. Any two-bob club can start the season fast and reach Xmas well above where they will finish. This year was obviously Liverpool's year.
 
Jaybomb said:
If Liverpool had Ancelotti, there would be a lot of players wanting to play under him.

Klopp on the other hand, can't hold onto his top players. Gotze, Lewandowski, Kagawa and more left him high and dry.
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Ancelotti wouldn't achieve much more than Klopp has at Liverpool. He's a better manager but he'd still be limited by the same limitations when it comes to wages and attracting players to Liverpool.
 
Klopper76 said:
Ancelotti wouldn't achieve much more than Klopp has at Liverpool. He's a better manager but he'd still be limited by the same limitations when it comes to wages and attracting players to Liverpool.
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Plus Ancelotti bores the bejesus out of me. Hes got a face like a slapped arse.
 
Jaybomb said:
If Liverpool had Ancelotti, there would be a lot of players wanting to play under him.

Klopp on the other hand, can't hold onto his top players. Gotze, Lewandowski, Kagawa and more left him high and dry.
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But but, if Liverpool got Klopp, he'd get all the top German players....

what happened to that theory?
 
shaky said:
Crystal Palace were joint 4th December before last. Any two-bob club can start the season fast and reach Xmas well above where they will finish. This year was obviously Liverpool's year.
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It's all very easy to be smug now, and don't worry, i'm embracing it too.

But for one very real long period, when they were smashing some of the top teams away, and scoring tonnes of goals, there was that incredible worry that the style of play was magically overriding how incredibly average their squad is.

Thank goodness the spell seems to have broken.

I mean, Milner and Lucas in the back 4?!
 
Sandikan said:
It's all very easy to be smug now, and don't worry, i'm embracing it too.

But for one very real long period, when they were smashing some of the top teams away, and scoring tonnes of goals, there was that incredible worry that the style of play was magically overriding how incredibly average their squad is.

Thank goodness the spell seems to have broken.

I mean, Milner and Lucas in the back 4?!
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Football fans just like fearing the worst for some odd reason. Just like the number of folk on here who declare our top 4 chances completely finished after every dropped point.
 
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