What did Hillary do wrong and what's next for her?

I see the 'You're-anti-Clinton-and-DNC-corruption-ergo-you-love-Trump' brigade are out in force again.

Yawn.

That's how things are atm, there is no reflection or scrutiny, no introspection - just polarized positions that cannot be reasoned with
 
Oh, and finally, it is virtually impossible for the party to break laws during the primary. They argued successfully in court that as a private organisation they have no need to be fair in the nominating process.
 
Which Weaver emails?
There are some spicy ones in the wikileaks thing where the Clinton team is deciding how to spin their fundraising deal with the DNC (when it came out last year). They settled on something like "not technically illegal" or some such bs.

Here, @berbatrick:

https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/9495

Chain of emails from May 2016, started by Jeff Weaver, Bernie's campaign manager, which outline - very specifically - the fact that Sanders' campaign knew of the campaign finance swindle within Clinton's campaign from the outset.

Why did Sanders' team try to play the primary clean for so long? It's all well and being principled but it cost him hugely. He'd have won that primary if he took her out at the knees on a range of issues, but was too principled/meek to do so.
 

That email quoted Jeff in a fundraising mail to supporters, with him quoting from a Politico article. That means he knew when the rest of us did - when Politico ran that story.
This was May, when the campaign was only mathematically alive (with the benefit of hindsight and as more sober people were telling me in the thread, it was dead from March 1, but the loss in New York was the terminal blow).


Why did he keep it clean?
1. He has always endorsed the Dem against the Republican in the presidential race. When he was a nobody, these were long and bitter endorsements. When he became a senator, they were unenthusiastic. As a national figure, I think he felt that he had to do his bit to keep Trump out and his language mattered.
2. His appeal came from a combination of being constant and focused on the issues, not his opponent (he made it a talking point himself) and from his obvious gruff/unpolished way (he was obviously not a typical insider). Going dirty wouldn't have helped. Last year, Hillary's popularity within the party was close to 90% or more, there were no votes to be gained by attacking her anyway.
 


I remember these tweets from earlier this year (before Therriault deleted them) when Clinton tried to throw her data crew under the bus.

Relevant again, however, as he alluded to the money laundering in his tweets and this chain of emails outlining Politico's investigation into Hillary Victory Fund's dubious money transfers from state parties and how team Clinton made a pact to 'ignore' the story:

https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/13233

It's these kind of people who deserve a wry smile at moments like these, when their concerns are finally vindicated.
 
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I mean, does anyone on here actually like her or want her to be president? (unless it was just to prevent Trump getting it). The DNC are fecking idiots for backing her.
Me... I've wanted her to be president ever since Die Hard with a Vengeance, to fulfill Bruce Willis' prophecy.
 
:lol: i bet she doesnt realize

From the comments:
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https://www.huffingtonpost.com/medea-benjamin/hillary-clinton-the-podes_b_11779826.html

It's beautiful that the Clinton's penchant for pay-for-play deals will be their ultimate undoing. They just couldn't quit while they were ahead.

Huffington Post said:
What did the Saudis get for their largesse and access? Wikileaks revealed a 2009 cable by then Secretary of State Hillary Clinton saying: “More needs to be done since Saudi Arabia remains a critical financial support base for Al Qaeda, the Taliban, Lashkar e-Tayyiba and other terrorist groups.” Instead of sanctioning the Saudis, Clinton did the opposite: She authorized enormous quantities of weapons to be sold to them. On Christmas Eve in 2011, Hillary Clinton and her closest aides celebrated a massive $29.4 billion sale to the Saudis of over 80 F-15 fighter jets, manufactured by Boeing, a company which coincidentally contributed $900,000 to the Clinton Foundation. In a chain of enthusiastic emails, an aide exclaimed that it was “not a bad Christmas present.” I’m sure the Yemenis at the receiving end of the Saudi bombings would not be so enthusiastic.

Follow the money...
 

+1.

Although Biden himself procrastinated too long before committing to running in 2016. Clinton's pledged superdelegates were never going to swap at that stage (I wonder what they were promised?) and it was too late to tap into the swelling Sanders base, too. If he'd have committed early in 2015 or beforehand, I think he'd have won the DNC nomination.
 
About the Podestas:
https://theintercept.com/2016/06/03/heather-podesta/
https://theintercept.com/2017/06/23...nald-trump-mottur-podesta-comcast-prudential/
The author writes a lot about lobbying/corruption in general.
If you prefer audio, he was interviewed last year about lobbying including the Podestas (10 mins - 51 mins)

Obama was onto these guys. I'd love to hear his honest feelings about the Clintons, the lobbyists and all the other cancers within Washington.
 
Obama was onto these guys. I'd love to hear his honest feelings about the Clintons, the lobbyists and all the other cancers within Washington.

Listen to the interview, it's a lot more complicated :D
(I'm listening now, the Podesta part starts at ~28 mins)
 
I think the celebrity sexual assault allegations are a direct consequence of Hilary losing to Trump. The election emboldened a lot of women to take a stand in light of the nationwide endorsement of a misogynist over the first female candidate for a major political party.

Hilary might not have won, but her loss is affecting Western society more than any other Presidential runner-up I can think of. It's only a consolation, but will be a very worthwhile one once all is said and done.