Westminster Politics

Can Cameron do PM again?

He'd need to stand as an MP again, according to this today in the Tel. They're getting excited about which next leader will drive Britain into outright fascism.

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I don't think you can sit in both houses, so standing as an MP again seems problematic to say the least.
 
Who do you vote for?

Looks like the Labour campaign is again going to be 'we're not the Tories', only instead of Corbyn's batshit policies its going to be no policies at all.

I know loads of people who have said they will abstain.

Labour will win but it probably won't be as comfortable as they'd hoped last year. Their issue is, like you say, that too many won't vote. This country is also insane and the Tories will probably pick up votes if they replace Sunak.

I'd also say that if Labour went to this election with 95% of Corbyn's 2017 manifesto, they'd absolutely annihilate the Tories. The man who everyone apparently hated wasn't a million miles away from forming a Government.
 
Labour will win but it probably won't be as comfortable as they'd hoped last year. Their issue is, like you say, that too many won't vote. This country is also insane and the Tories will probably pick up votes if they replace Sunak.

I'd also say that if Labour went to this election with 95% of Corbyn's 2017 manifesto, they'd absolutely annihilate the Tories. The man who everyone apparently hated wasn't a million miles away from forming a Government.

Anyone heard if Corbyn is standing as an independent, yet? Fingers crossed he does.
 
I don’t understand why Starmer doesn’t more frequently call for a GE. Whenever Sunak is going on about how great things are and how they are delivering - the really simple retort is “well then why doesn’t he call for a GE?”
 
Labour will win but it probably won't be as comfortable as they'd hoped last year. Their issue is, like you say, that too many won't vote. This country is also insane and the Tories will probably pick up votes if they replace Sunak.

I'd also say that if Labour went to this election with 95% of Corbyn's 2017 manifesto, they'd absolutely annihilate the Tories. The man who everyone apparently hated wasn't a million miles away from forming a Government.

In 2019, he really was a million miles away from forming a government if you recall. Or did you forget that bit....
 
In 2019, he really was a million miles away from forming a government if you recall. Or did you forget that bit....

In 2019, he was miles away. In 2017, he was very close.

People ultimately didn't like him but liked a lot of the policies put forward in 2017. The 2019 election was ultimately a second referendum and Labour's fumbled party line on Brexit cost them votes on both sides of that divide.
 
Anyone heard if Corbyn is standing as an independent, yet? Fingers crossed he does.

Honestly I doubt he will make any decision before the election is announced and candidates have to declare. It is better optics for any number of reasons for Labour to choose a candidate for the seat. That will allow him to say that Labour left him, and he can stand as an independent.
 
In 2019, he was miles away. In 2017, he was very close.

People ultimately didn't like him but liked a lot of the policies put forward in 2017. The 2019 election was ultimately a second referendum and Labour's fumbled party line on Brexit cost them votes on both sides of that divide.

That 2017 election was crazy. Theresa May presenting a plan for social care and Labour running on the policy of ensuring millionaire pensioners keep their homes to win votes (it worked). Plus we had everyone in favour of trans rights. Crazy how far we have moved in less than 7 years.
 
Can Cameron do PM again?
Technically he can, by convention the PM is an MP but there's no actual rule or law that says the PM has to be an MP, prior to 1902 it was not that uncommon for a member of the Lords to be PM, since then it's happened once, Alec Douglas-Home was a member of the Lords in 1963 and became PM, he renounced hisntitle shortly after and thus was no longer a member of the Lords
 
In 2019, he was miles away. In 2017, he was very close.

People ultimately didn't like him but liked a lot of the policies put forward in 2017. The 2019 election was ultimately a second referendum and Labour's fumbled party line on Brexit cost them votes on both sides of that divide.

That is correct. But ultimately it was also Corbyn weakness, dithering and lack of leadership. I for one was for the first time in my life questioning whether I really wanted to vote for this guy.
And remember that in 2017 he was up against a very weak opponent in May.

Anyway I am glad that he is no longer leader.
 
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Tory social housing plan aims to prioritise ‘British homes for British workers’

Exclusive: Proposals to be put forward next month will favour UK citizens, but experts say they are likely to be illegal or unworkable

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...-prioritise-british-homes-for-british-workers
It is reasonable to have people living in Britain to be preferred house buyers over foreign companies/individuals (residing abroad) and British companies. The first flat I was paying rent at was owned by a company based in Dubai, in order to get some house work done urgently they had to contact the company and it took several days, was an absolute nightmare.
 
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It is reasonable to have people living in Britain to be preferred house buyers over foreign companies/individuals and British companies. The first flat I was paying rent at was owned by a company based in Dubai, in order to get some house work done urgently they had to contact the company and it took several days, was an absolute nightmare.

This would be reasonable if the same government hadn't spent the last decade and a half making it piss easy to sell mansions and houses in central London to foreign billionaires, fuelling house price inflation and impacting housing stock, as those same properties sit empty 11 months of the year.

At least this way they get to shift the blame for that mess to the foreign nurses and social care workers who are earning 25k a year.
 
I don’t understand why Starmer doesn’t more frequently call for a GE. Whenever Sunak is going on about how great things are and how they are delivering - the really simple retort is “well then why doesn’t he call for a GE?”

I'd be happy if Starmer did anything, let alone call for a GE. Corbyn was totally unelectable but at least people knew what he stood for. Starmer acts like a back bench MP rather than leader of the opposition.
 
This would be reasonable if the same government hadn't spent the last decade and a half making it piss easy to sell mansions and houses in central London to foreign billionaires, fuelling house price inflation and impacting housing stock, as those same properties sit empty 11 months of the year.

At least this way they get to shift the blame for that mess to the foreign nurses and social care workers who are earning 25k a year.

i think if this was the case i’d have read about it in the telegraph or times. typical left wing doom mongering.
 
This would be reasonable if the same government hadn't spent the last decade and a half making it piss easy to sell mansions and houses in central London to foreign billionaires, fuelling house price inflation and impacting housing stock, as those same properties sit empty 11 months of the year.

At least this way they get to shift the blame for that mess to the foreign nurses and social care workers who are earning 25k a year.
Apologies for being unclear, but when I say foreign individuals I meant people not resident in the UK. As long as you are living in the UK you should be allowed to buy a house, nationality doesn't matter.
 
It is reasonable to have people living in Britain to be preferred house buyers over foreign companies/individuals (residing abroad) and British companies. The first flat I was paying rent at was owned by a company based in Dubai, in order to get some house work done urgently they had to contact the company and it took several days, was an absolute nightmare.

Ok, but the movement towards making life miserable for immigrants moving to the UK is despicable.
 
It is reasonable to have people living in Britain to be preferred house buyers over foreign companies/individuals (residing abroad) and British companies. The first flat I was paying rent at was owned by a company based in Dubai, in order to get some house work done urgently they had to contact the company and it took several days, was an absolute nightmare.

The article is specifically about social housing, i.e. provided by your local council. They want councils to prioritise housing British people over immigrants.
 
Ok, but the movement towards making life miserable for immigrants moving to the UK is despicable.
The article is specifically about social housing, i.e. provided by your local council. They want councils to prioritise housing British people over immigrants.
I am an immigrant myself and have been at the wrong end of government decisions frequently. I am just saying that people who are not physically living in the country and corporations shouldn't be allowed to buy property in the UK. I know friends in the USA and back home who buy UK property as investment. This shouldn't be allowed. Similarly allowing corporations to buy property is just asking for rent and price rises.

I went on a tangent from social housing article. I am not familiar with social housing so can't comment on it.
 
"His utter incompetence in every sense is now offending me on behalf of politicians everywhere"

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I really doubt this will happen but it would be fecking funny if it did


With that sort of majority you could tell the right wing media to feck right off, you wouldn’t have to pander to them at all and instead you could bring in Leveson-2 and spend the next five years bringing in solid media regulations and ensuring that rich individuals and corporations cannot have the political power they currently exploit.

Starmer however will still spend 5 years twerking for Murdoch only to be brutally betrayed by him.
 
With that sort of majority you could tell the right wing media to feck right off, you wouldn’t have to pander to them at all and instead you could bring in Leveson-2 and spend the next five years bringing in solid media regulations and ensuring that rich individuals and corporations cannot have the political power they currently exploit.

Starmer however will still spend 5 years twerking for Murdoch only to be brutally betrayed by him.
Something something you need to be in power to make effective progressive changes. Starmer won't push for PR, he won't make any rightful changes towards pushing for affordable housing or green initiatives, and he certainly won't stop selling arms to pariah states like Israel and Saudi. He's a Temu Tory with a red tie that'll do the same neoliberal song and dance until he ends up being abandoned entirely by his base, all the while the Tories manage to rally behind someone who isn't hopelessly atrocious. 105 year old Rupert Murdoch will then switch allegiances yet again and Starmer will then be left trying to weasel himself into a role as some sort of peace envoy or C(nut)-level role at a tech company, and we'll do it all over again.
 
bring back the sturge. if someone’s going to be pilfering the coffers, i’d rather it be someone who’s got their head screwed on.