All that would do is guarantee the continuation of Tory rule
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All that would do is guarantee the continuation of Tory rule
My view as well.
Talks BS but, people there are lapping it up.
Poor from Corbyn imo. Whatevers happened, he knows damn well he's not winning any election, this is literally to split the labour vote. Considering he's a man of morals, it's reeks of putting his own disdain for the current labour party that's "wronged" him over getting the Tories out.
Or he believes that the current Labour Party does not represent Labour values. It took the Brexit party to get the Tories to pivot right because it was eating into its base. Could it take a Real Labour Party to get Labour to move more to the left.
I'm not saying it's a good idea but can see how some people would and that they wouldn't do it just to spite Starmer.
I hear that, but by the time Brexit party was formed the western world was already on its way to becoming more right wing, and think that pivot would have happened one way or another under Johnson regardless. Trump had been on office for atleast a year for example. And also, the Tories were already in power and had been so for years at that point. Getting a party in opposition that's genuinely winning to pivot to the left seems like a different situation to getting party already in government to pivot to the right.
And anywho, though he was running for mayor or something?
I would like to see a party to the left of Labour personally, with a manifesto that gives people more choice of what to vote for. At the moment the far left are an irrelevance in British politics, constantly criticising whilst being incapable of offering an alternative themselves. The standard excuse for not doing is 'first past the post', which of course will never change unless people actually do something about it.
X plans to start a new party stories are never true.
Jeremy up to his old tricks then? Just when Labour has a chance to annihilate the Tory Party
Sunak reaction..... Every cloud has a silver lining
Starmer reaction......... Every silver lining has a cloud
Sunak reaction..... Every cloud has a silver lining
Starmer reaction......... Every silver lining has a cloud
There's been a few over the last decade to be fair, I still remember some in here giddy at Change UK. I'd love a Corbyn party to pick up a seat or two and then Starmer having to come begging to get anything through.
Ideally it's the greens in that situation so at least Starmer can't backtrack on his green pledges.
Fair point. It’s just these parties never last long and their goals are always short sighted. Both Change UK and The Brexit Party were more like fake parties funded by rich donors attempting to move the tories and labour through media appearances(Well imo mostly to attack the socialist leadership of Labour).
A left alternative party would be good but without the unions it wouldn’t work. It would become like the parties mentioned above but without the rich donors. Plus the mild social democratic policy platform of 2017 - 2019 is pretty outdated now considering the hellhole of the last few years.
The best case scenario imo would be Starmer Labour winning a insanely big majority but having no ability to solve the dog shit economy leading to a labour government going after the unions which would causa crisis/break in the party.
Apparently this is just the Conservative MP's
Also, I think Corbyn has probably had enough of leading a party. He probably thinks he can do more as an independent MP. This story may have been planted by Starmer's allies tbh, as a way of pivoting minds and the story towards how he is the antithesis of Corbyn.
I think we are also counting the House of Lords in this.
Larry needs to pull his claw out.
I can’t imagine he would want to repeat the leadership years. I’m sure he recently did a joke Christmas with some lads in Irish balaclava. He’s living his best live now.
Yep your probably right about who’s planted the story. It’s genuinely going to be strange watching Starmer on the campaign trail in the next election.
We should play a drinking game. Take a shot every time Starmer makes a policy announcement. Everyone would go through the year completely sober.
Read the damn website. He has TOO MANY policies that are taking aim at TOO MUCH. There’s pages of the stuff.
It’s utterly mad for politically engaged people to suggest that Labour under Starmer don’t have any policies. No oppositional party has ever had more. The entire country is fecked and they have policies to address every single area.
I’m not suggesting they’re all brilliant, but they’re covered, costed, outlined and detailed.
I remember the Starmer bit where he had all these left wing pledges and then backtrack on all of them after getting power.
Whats that Starmer has been elected PM?
Missed that, my goodness I must had one too many over Christmas!
Led by donkeys
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...-in-england-partly-due-to-conspiracy-theories
Ministers prioritised driving in England partly due to conspiracy theories
Exclusive: Documents show shift in transport policy influenced by unfounded fears about loss of freedom of movement in ‘15-minute cities’
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...-in-england-partly-due-to-conspiracy-theories
Ministers prioritised driving in England partly due to conspiracy theories
Exclusive: Documents show shift in transport policy influenced by unfounded fears about loss of freedom of movement in ‘15-minute cities’
Someone in the replies pointed out she did raise it...maybe only in opposition. Pretty sure she did feck all while in government.
https://www.theyworkforyou.com/search/?q=horizon&pid=24778&phrase=horizon&person=priti+patel
Normal practice by Sunak. Concerning statements by Labour.
Bit of trolling here! Labour took out adverts on Tories website
Fair play to the MP, he offered to look into this further down the thread
Next GE will have the lowest turnout in modern history
I find that incredible, considering the suffering.
People need a reason to go out and vote. If no one is offering anything materially different to the status quo then your only motivation to vote is to demonstrate your displeasure with the current incumbents. That's not going to be enough to get the apathetic to polling stations.
Unless JC starts a party or teams up with the greens...only then will I vote
Purely hypothetical scenario:
Labour: 41%(% of seats, 51 for a majority)
Corbyn FC: 10%
Tories 10%
(Greens and Lib Dems make 9% combined)
What does Starmer do?
Labour: 41%(% of seats, 51 for a majority)
Corbyn FC: 10%
Tories 10%
(Greens and Lib Dems make 9% combined)
What does Starmer do?
