Westminster Politics

He really is fecking clueless, can't even provide a politicians stock answer.




The way it always falls to bbc local journalists to take politicians to task is a damning indictment of the political journalists who work around Westminster.
 
You don’t think the North having high speed transport to the south would help move away from the London-centric thinking?
Unless something seriously changes with the franchising system and the POS companies running the services, I don't see how simply saving an hour on your journey - that will likely cost triple figures - is going to help Manchester and surrounding areas much at all. Then add the revised plans where elevated tracks will need to be constructed through the city after the government reneged on their initial idea of an underground link to Piccadilly Station and it looks increasingly like a raw deal.
 
It's quite incredible to see Sunak take one by-election in Uxbridge that was impacted by the ULEZ and reshape his whole platform around being wholy car-centric.
 
It's quite incredible to see Sunak take one by-election in Uxbridge that was impacted by the ULEZ and reshape his whole platform around being wholy car-centric.

What else could he campaign on? Leenoch Anderson said it himself a while ago, all they have are Trans issues and culture wars.

He'll take what was the thinnest of victories and magnify it times 1000 in the hope of clinging on to power.
 
It's quite incredible to see Sunak take one by-election in Uxbridge that was impacted by the ULEZ and reshape his whole platform around being wholy car-centric.

Not really he is like a drowning man grasping at straws.

A large proportion of the so called 'swing voters' in the country, vote often on the basis of a one item issue, something they believe will help them; it's not political thought, it's not a fundamental belief, it's not always the right thing to do, it's usually very narrowly focused, but it's usually focused on something they are concerned about, or feel strongly about.

Sunak will try very hard to 'shave' the final Labour majority at the next GE; it will not be enough to prevent Labour forming a government, but just enough to prevent them being 'in power'. If he achieves that it will be a result for the Tory party, it gives them an outside chance of getting back after 5 years or so, when Labour (or whoever wins) will be battling 'strong head winds' for the foreseeable future and without a sizeable majority will be fortunate to keep their heads above water, let alone change the political dynamic back to the majority of people who keep the wheels turning.
 
Don't know if you're being sarcastic or not but in all seriousness, no. Because the idea of HS2 seems to be to extend the London commuter belt to Birmingham and parts of the North where living costs are lower, as opposed to actually encouraging investment into Northern towns and cities. This will in turn artificially increase living costs in those areas due to London salaries reaching that far out. It's not like HS2 is a haulage line, it's being built for commuting.

No it isnt, but it is being built to free up the other haulage and commuter lines so they can run more trains instead of worrying about fittng in the express services.

High speed or not we need another rail line. If we're building one it may as well be the best we can build and I can't think of any country where a high speed network hasn't benefited the regions it connects to.
 
If we're building one it may as well be the best we can build and I can't think of any country where a high speed network hasn't benefited the regions it connects to.
This sounds good until you remember that they're planning to cancel the remainder of this single line because it's cost shitloads. Meanwhile the rest of the UK has nothing. Money well spent.
 
This sounds good until you remember that they're planning to cancel the remainder of this single line because it's cost shitloads. Meanwhile the rest of the UK has nothing. Money well spent.

Well infrastructure spending is a great way to stimulate your economy and we've lagged behind for years.
 
This friend of the motorist bullshit he was spouting on Radio Manchester is quite a stance to take. Anyone drive in Manchester? It's fecking dreadful. If you ever try and drive out to the countryside at the weekend or commute from anywhere in GM to the city centre at peak times it's a nightmare. Our tiny roads don't need more cars, they need fewer cars and reliable rail to make them quieter for those with no other option. Even the biggest bootcut wanker petrolhead doesn't think the answer is more cars. If that's the plan, we'd have to spend billions widening roads and that's only ever a very short term, expensive fix.
 
Well infrastructure spending is a great way to stimulate your economy and we've lagged behind for years.

Corbyn campaigned on infrastructure spending so it must be going against British values or something to even suggest such a thing
 
Corbyn campaigned on infrastructure spending so it must be going against British values or something to even suggest such a thing

If only the rest of his campaign had been any good.
 
No it isnt, but it is being built to free up the other haulage and commuter lines so they can run more trains instead of worrying about fittng in the express services.

High speed or not we need another rail line. If we're building one it may as well be the best we can build and I can't think of any country where a high speed network hasn't benefited the regions it connects to.

In spain there are plenty of high speed train sections that are useless and that this money (a lot) could be better spend on regional projects or to unite other big cities like valencia and barcelona or the mediterranean corridor. But as in spain everything is madrid centric like london

In UK, a great network (not talking specifically of HS) that could unite the north, could be more beneficial for the north? Talking without knowing UKs reality
 
In spain there are plenty of high speed train sections that are useless and that this money (a lot) could be better spend on regional projects or to unite other big cities like valencia and barcelona or the mediterranean corridor. But as in spain everything is madrid centric like london

In UK, a great network (not talking specifically of HS) that could unite the north, could be more beneficial for the north? Talking without knowing UKs reality

Is that the Spanish view or the Catalan view? :wenger:

The plan was originally supposed to do exactly that but it has slowly been stripped down. HS3 was supposed to link the Northern cities and HS2 was to connect them to London. It would have been brilliant. HS3 has become little more than some new track on the existing line and HS2 looks like its going to be a small London commuter route.
 
But as in spain everything is madrid centric like london

In any country ,wherever the 'seat of government' lies, there resides the most money, spending, development, services, projects, etc. run by the government. This tends to be true whether it's a democracy or not.
 
Is that the Spanish view or the Catalan view? :wenger:

The plan was originally supposed to do exactly that but it has slowly been stripped down. HS3 was supposed to link the Northern cities and HS2 was to connect them to London. It would have been brilliant. HS3 has become little more than some new track on the existing line and HS2 looks like its going to be a small London commuter route.

They should have been done in reverse order. Tens of billions wasted and there'll be nothing useful to show for it.
 
His policies were fantastic, his PR was appalling, not helped by the media of course.

If they were fantastic they wouldn't have been so easily ripped apart. One led to the other.
 
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If they were fantastic they wouldn't have been so easily ripped apart. One led to the other.
They were mocked with the old 'magic money tree' attack the right wing always uses. But then within a year those same people found billions for furlough and an absolutely useless track and trace system.
 
They were mocked with the old 'magic money tree' attack the right wing always uses. But then within a year those same people found billions for furlough and an absolutely useless track and trace system.

And 10 bn for the DUP to prop them up in Westminster
 
If they were fantastic they wouldn't have been so easily ripped apart. One led to the other.
Also, and sorry to go back to this after replying to you previously, as I just reread those election pledges, but which of these policies were bad? To me it reads increasingly like the choice for a genuine positive future for this country that we're further away from achieving than ever before.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50501411
 
Is that the Spanish view or the Catalan view? :wenger:

The plan was originally supposed to do exactly that but it has slowly been stripped down. HS3 was supposed to link the Northern cities and HS2 was to connect them to London. It would have been brilliant. HS3 has become little more than some new track on the existing line and HS2 looks like its going to be a small London commuter route.

Is an honest view. Spain after china is the country with more km of HS in the world with doesnt make sense with only 40 million population. There are HS train stops on towns of 1000 inhabitants with a wooping average of 1 raider a day. Meanwhile the second and third biggest cities, at a perfect HS train distance to make sense are not connected. And the mediterranian coast with 5 of the top 7 cities could benefit much more than any other line.

Even the european funded commerce line that europe told spain to make through the cost bc it makes much more economic sense, spain put an alternative to do it though madrid

Centralism is the usual. That doesnt mean that is what it make sense. And in spain small towns would benefit much more of regional transport investment that having a useless HS train station
 
In any country ,wherever the 'seat of government' lies, there resides the most money, spending, development, services, projects, etc. run by the government. This tends to be true whether it's a democracy or not.

That doesnt mean that certain projects make more sense from an economically an developing POV
 
Also, and sorry to go back to this after replying to you previously, as I just reread those election pledges, but which of these policies were bad? To me it reads increasingly like the choice for a genuine positive future for this country that we're further away from achieving than ever before.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50501411

His policies were fantastic and fully costed. It just would have taken money away from those who had it to spare in bucket loads.
 
In the next few days we will all see more of the new-look Rishi Sunak.

'Mr Safe Pair of Hands' is gone - it's 'No more Mr Nice Guy' now.

Less of the touchy feely "green crap", as his forerunner David Cameron once branded it - more of the red meat for motorists and rhetoric for Tory members. And if that means the home secretary riling up the left about refugees, so be it.

Meet Rishi Sunak the "change candidate", to use the political jargon. The man who wants to tell you why the country is going wrong - and how he'll fix it.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-66970426

A totally-not-a puff piece from the former BBC Political Editor ahead of the interview tomorrow morning.
 
A totally-not-a puff piece from the former BBC Political Editor ahead of the interview tomorrow morning.
The man who wants to tell you why the country is going wrong - and how he'll fix it.
So he's just going to come out and say "it's basically my fault, and I'm planning on doing more of the same till all my mates are even richer"?
 
So he's just going to come out and say "it's basically my fault, and I'm planning on doing more of the same till all my mates are even richer"?
Kuennsberg - "What's wrong with the country?"
Sunak - "..."
Kuennsberg - "Sorry, that was rude of me. Why are Labour such bastards whereas you're totes amazeballs?"
Sunak - "That's a great question, Lozzaballs! It all began when Gordon Brown sold all of our gold..."
 
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Those who think not enough children are killed by speeding cars outside schools deserve political representation too.
 
"not commenting on speculation" is a new level of deceit and non-accountability, now that both the Minister for Transport and the PM have used it within 24 hours about cancelling HS2. No fecking surprise that Laura K didn't want to bring it up again this morning.
Those who think not enough children are killed by speeding cars outside schools deserve political representation too.
Like someone else said earlier; if these driving policies are enough to sway your vote towards the Tories then you were always going to vote for the Tories.

But imagine being the PM who has to base their entire election strategy on some fake War on Motorists. Their internal polling must be poor as feck.