Westminster Politics

I have yet to meet a single person who thinks “stopping the boats” should be our national priority right now. Cost of living, declining living standards, the general incompetence of the govt, the NHS, Ukraine… all of these things get mentioned plenty, but never the boats. Maybe I am just living in an echo chamber.
 
Anybody to the right of a hard lefty like Corbyn is Tory?!! :eek: I think I may have a hard time, yes. :lol:
I voted for Cameron, May and Johnson, mainly because I couldn’t bring myself to vote for Jezza or the creature comfort Wallace and Gromit guy before him. Previously I voted for Blair, and for Nick Clegg because I thought the country needed a change from the old red or blue. I can’t imagine Sunak will get my vote, but I don’t see Starmer getting his house in order either so who knows?!!

You know that you have the option to not vote or protest voting blank? You are criticizing johnson and you seem to know who he was and you still vote him? And you voted every single tory cnut of the last decade?
You are tory through and through and responsible of brexit and what the country is experiencing

And it is fine, is your choice as a voter. But i dont understand why you justify yourself who you are and what you partially caused. Own it
 
"Class has nothing to do with wealth"
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"My vote has nothing to do with my politics"
 
Anyone who is a floating voter at the moment is a Tory who doesn't want to admit it.

I am assuming that you're floating between the Tories and A.N.Other, probably Lib Dem, @Plant0x84
 
Anyone who is a floating voter at the moment is a Tory who doesn't want to admit it.

I am assuming that you're floating between the Tories and A.N.Other, probably Lib Dem, @Plant0x84
I’ve literally stated my recent voting history. I wouldn’t vote LD now as they are an irrelevance these days. I’m not likely to vote Tory either given the shambles we are in Under there ‘leadership’.
 
I’ve literally stated my recent voting history. I wouldn’t vote LD now as they are an irrelevance these days. I’m not likely to vote Tory either given the shambles we are in Under there ‘leadership’.
So you're going to vote Labour? Green? Spoil your vote?

You say not likely to vote Tory, so there's a chance?
 
It just doesn’t. It just goes to show how fecked and broken our political system and society are.

“I support a political parties ideas and principles and manifesto to the extent that I cast a vote for them”… is now not an indication that you’re aligned with that party?

Thats Fcuking bonkers mate.
 
So you're going to vote Labour? Green? Spoil your vote?

You say not likely to vote Tory, so there's a chance?
I live in a safe Conservative seat, my local councillors are Tory and I didn’t vote in the last elections because there wasn’t a candidate that grabbed my attention or made a case to warrant my support.
The next general election is anytime next year up to Jan 2025. I’ll let you know at the time.
 
“I support a political parties ideas and principles and manifesto to the extent that I cast a vote for them”… is now not an indication that you’re aligned with that party?

Thats Fcuking bonkers mate.
Manifesto, yes. The important issues at the time and the stance each party takes on them. But I don’t align with ideas and principles of any political party, and I don’t buy into their dogma which is why I don’t consider myself ‘labour’ or ‘Tory’. Also my vote was for my local MP, who up to the last GE had done a great job for my town, rather than voting specifically for May or Johnson. I happen to think they both were rotten uninspiring candidates, and Truss was an absolute brain fart shitstorm of a leader.
 
I live in a safe Conservative seat, my local councillors are Tory and I didn’t vote in the last elections because there wasn’t a candidate that grabbed my attention or made a case to warrant my support.
The next general election is anytime next year up to Jan 2025. I’ll let you know at the time.
It really sounds like you're giving yourself every excuse to vote Tory.
 
Sums it up nicely

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Voting conservative doesn’t make you a Tory. Most tories would probably look down on me rather than take me as their own.
I think I probably do regret it, but as I said earlier it’s based on the evidence at the time. Cameron should have had the balls to see through the brexit vote when he cocked up. Boris is a narcissistic pathological liar who can’t be trusted as far as you can throw him. Says much about UK politics that he was the best option. I’m certainly not voting for Sunak who is weak and forgettable while he stands by Priti Patel and Suella Braverman.

Just the one goat and they call me .......

Sorry - couldn't help myself.
 
Voting conservative doesn’t make you a Tory. Most tories would probably look down on me rather than take me as their own.
I think I probably do regret it, but as I said earlier it’s based on the evidence at the time. Cameron should have had the balls to see through the brexit vote when he cocked up. Boris is a narcissistic pathological liar who can’t be trusted as far as you can throw him. Says much about UK politics that he was the best option. I’m certainly not voting for Sunak who is weak and forgettable while he stands by Priti Patel and Suella Braverman.

I simply despair
 
Voting Tory at the last 3 elections doesn't make you a Tory. A perfect encapsulation of how the Tories usually do so well and why we are where we are.

This country is actually fecked. At least we have 5 years of austerity mk2 to look forward to under Labour before the Tories win again.
 
Labour to Lib Dem to Tory. I voted for May, and subsequently Boris as I couldn’t vote for anti-Semite Corbyn even though one or two of his policies were thought provoking.
Given you vote for a local MP and not the leader of a party and despite this, you were happy to think that you were voting for Boris I think you might not have any ability to have your thoughts provoked.
 
Voting conservative doesn’t make you a Tory. Most tories would probably look down on me rather than take me as their own.
I think I probably do regret it, but as I said earlier it’s based on the evidence at the time. Cameron should have had the balls to see through the brexit vote when he cocked up. Boris is a narcissistic pathological liar who can’t be trusted as far as you can throw him. Says much about UK politics that he was the best option. I’m certainly not voting for Sunak who is weak and forgettable while he stands by Priti Patel and Suella Braverman.


Out of interest (and I'm not really interested in joining the pile on) what do you think makes someone a Tory?
 
My grandad left me with two quotes that'll follow me until the end of my days.

"There's two types of folk - folk who aren't cnuts, and feckin Tories."

"Hide my porn stash."
You kept it didn't you
 
Manifesto, yes. The important issues at the time and the stance each party takes on them. But I don’t align with ideas and principles of any political party, and I don’t buy into their dogma which is why I don’t consider myself ‘labour’ or ‘Tory’. Also my vote was for my local MP, who up to the last GE had done a great job for my town, rather than voting specifically for May or Johnson. I happen to think they both were rotten uninspiring candidates, and Truss was an absolute brain fart shitstorm of a leader.
So now you are voting for your local MP and not the party leader....

Labour to Lib Dem to Tory. I voted for May, and subsequently Boris as I couldn’t vote for anti-Semite Corbyn even though one or two of his policies were thought provoking.
 
Labour to Lib Dem to Tory. I voted for May, and subsequently Boris as I couldn’t vote for anti-Semite Corbyn even though one or two of his policies were thought provoking.

Funnily I have done the reverse in my voting history.

Voted Tory in a Labour safe seat in protest at 72 day detention, then Lib Dem, and voted Labour ever since they have been out of power.

If you voted for the Tories post austerity, you are a Tory
 
Out of interest (and I'm not really interested in joining the pile on) what do you think makes someone a Tory?

Conservative mentality - is primarily a belief in ...'Self first, self last, and if there is anything left over, self again...' and unfortunately deep down there is a bit of this mentality in all of us. Which is why the Tories really do believe they are the 'natural party' of Government.