Westminster Politics
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Lovely, stuff like that is excellent to dismantle the reputation of a minister.
The media are definitely turning on him slowly and i think it's largely spearheaded by his own party. We'll have a new PM and an election late next year i think.
Feel like “forgive me” could become a house song from a creative DJ and a good beat.
He is Churchillian in one respect, always seems permanently drunk.
Is it just me or is that genuinely worrying? He's reading a script and completely lost his way there.
Election...who puts an 80 seat majority at risk?
Winter elections are unusual
I could certainly see a challenge in the late spring / early summer with a new leader being elected in time for conference ... then a budget designed to win votes in April with an election in May 2023 ... which ties in nicely with the SNP pledge to hold indy ref 2 before the end of 2023 so ideal timing to make a vote for labour a vote for breaking up the UK.
suspect we will see sunak jostling for position to be next in line (and gove lining up behind him ready to knife him in the back)
New leader bounce. Leaders tend to get less popular as people get to know them more and as they develop a track record to criticise.
They have an 80 seat majority. These cnuts could pass any law they want. The gains to be had are marginal. That's too much of a risk.
It would be about the chances of winning the next election. Polls are levelish now, but given the tax increases and inflation coming, with possibly more, a 2024 election could be very iffy for the Tories, whatever majority they have now. New leaders are often popular to begin with (Starmer excepted!) so a 2022 election could mean being in power until 2027 instead of 2024. It would be a judgement call depending on the situation at the time, but a 2022 election is quite conceivable.
The fixed-term parliament act is bollocks by the way, ignore it.
Tories in charge until 2027? 
don't forgot the power of the newspapers, the ones who endorsed Johnson may get tired of his antics and for making them look silly. Johnson has served their purpose, got Brexit 'done', seen off Corbyn and got Labour to go in a more 'New Labour' direction
Johnson started off with no shortage of enemies in the Tory party itself, they'll be glad to get rid when they can.
As for Sunak I admit I don't know how popular he is amongst MPs actually. He would need to get voted first or second amongst MPs to stand for party leader, and I have no idea what his chances would be of that. The Tory press seem to like him, but that might not count for anything in the MP ballots.
@FireballXL5 mentioned Churchill. I think he at least disguised it a bit better when speaking in public. Today’s shambles is more like Boris Yeltsin. Johnson obviously has a problem. I thought he was pissed (or at least horrendously hungover) when I saw him interviewed in Glasgow the other week by Amanpour on CNN.
Sounds like a familiar situation.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59373237
I am sure that the business leaders were highly interested in Boris Johnson visit to Peppa Pig World.
Proof that he really does live in a fantasy world.
I am sure that the business leaders were highly interested in Boris Johnson visit to Peppa Pig World.
Proof that he really does live in a fantasy world.
WTF is Boris talking about???
Sooner the better without damaging the Tory brand. Johnson has gone from untouchable to untenable in a handful of weeks. Champ to chump
Anyway.....
Current Tory leader odds, bet365:
Rishi Sunak 12/5
Liz Truss 9/2
Michael Gove 6/1
Jeremy Hunt 10/1
Hunt seems to have a strange teflon quality which shouldn't be underestimated, no matter what he cocks up nothing sticks.
Rishi Sunak 12/5
Liz Truss 9/2
Michael Gove 6/1
Jeremy Hunt 10/1
Hunt seems to have a strange teflon quality which shouldn't be underestimated, no matter what he cocks up nothing sticks.
Hunt as one advantage over the other three, he hasn't served in Boris Johnson's cabinet
The last few weeks has been an incredible crash course on the role of the media in our political system. Johnson has been demonstrably unfit to be Prime Minister since Day One and a inept and embarrassing liability for a lot longer than that. For years none of his feck-ups, including ones that by rights should have ended the Tories as a political force, got any traction in the media. It's only now, when it benefits the Tories to pin their collective failings on him before they get rid, that he's actually subjected to anything approaching the level of scrutiny a Prime Minister should experience.
He has totally lost what little clue the dribbling buffoon ever had!
Give it to Rees Mogg till the end of the season.
I have always said that the next election is all to play for. Even his biggest supporters are beginning to realise that Boris is little more than a con man (and that is being incredibly polite) and is rapidly being exposed as unfit for the PM role. And Labour absolutely have to keep their powder dry and don't make stupid mistakes.
Our PM in a speech to the CBI Business Leaders were he loses his notes, tells them about going to Peppa Pig World and then makes car noises to tell them the difference between a normal car engine and an EV.
Just about the worlds most stupid man. Apparently he was heard after saying that he thought he 'just about got away with it'... Oh well. He is only the PM after all.
But is he not far too busy with all his other business interests.
Trading in the souls of children and burning the impure?
Busy trying to keep the fish British.
Locked in eternal struggle against his nemesis Mary Poppins?
Indeed, Mogg v Mary.
What?!
It's interesting how many Oxford and Cambridge graduates are complete feckwits.“Peppa Pig world is very much my kind of place”
we always knew he likes to wallow in dirt
we always knew he likes to wallow in dirt
Doesn't surprise me, Mrs rabbit has a different job each episode, tory 101 to expect a single mother to work a 90 hour week rather than get any help.