Westminster Politics

It's not just Starmer that looks bad there, it's the Labour Party as a whole.
 
There's also another poll that shows people think Keir Starmer would do a better job on the right than Marcus Rashford.

there's layers to that joke
 
It's not just Starmer that looks bad there, it's the Labour Party as a whole.

Too true! They couldn't win an election for dog catcher.
They are almost totally out of 'sync' with their red wall supporters, even Nandy, who was being hailed as the great 'northern saviour' for Labour has shot herself in the foot; wrong subject, wrong place, wrong time!
 
The general public are thick as feck.

Tories will bring in a simple 3 or 4 word slogan and the masses will fall for it...they got Brexit done, and by the time of the local elections, things will be re-opening and a sense of 'normality' will be returning.

ANDDD the Corbynism supporters may not come out to vote Labour this time
"We cured covid" I can see it now. The Tory voting masses will lap it up.

If by Corbynism, you mean socialism, the founding stone of the Labour Party, then you may be right. Maybe suspending the whip from the former Labour leader is not the best way to go about creating unity. Especially after the formal investigation recommended the opposite.
 
Indeed.
But Marcus Rashford and Piers Morgan are both high profile and in the public eye.
Apart from the weekly PMQ, when do the public at large get to see the leader of the opposition.
The only time he popped his head up was to demand schools go back. Other than that he has been far to compliant on disastrous Tory policy. Oh, and he has done the odd Daily Mail article.

I don't think most of the general public even watch PMQs to be honest.
 
Indeed.
But Marcus Rashford and Piers Morgan are both high profile and in the public eye.
Apart from the weekly PMQ, when do the public at large get to see the leader of the opposition.

Indeed. The opposition has been almost completely pushed off the news agenda because of all that's going on at the moment.
 
"We cured covid" I can see it now. The Tory voting masses will lap it up.

If by Corbynism, you mean socialism, the founding stone of the Labour Party, then you may be right. Maybe suspending the whip from the former Labour leader is not the best way to go about creating unity. Especially after the formal investigation recommended the opposite.

We'll get an indication whenever the local elections take place. That will hopefully light a rocket under Labour
 
The only time he popped his head up was to demand schools go back. Other than that he has been far to compliant on disastrous Tory policy. Oh, and he has done the odd Daily Mail article.

I don't think most of the general public even watch PMQs to be honest.

No they don't. And quite frankly I am finding it just a sham.
 
Indeed. The opposition has been almost completely pushed off the news agenda because of all that's going on at the moment.

Yes.
I do still believe that their time will come as we draw closer to an election though.
And hopefully when a public inquiry into the government shambolic handling of the pandemic; if that happens...
 
Yes.
I do still believe that their time will come as we draw closer to an election though.
And hopefully when a public inquiry into the government shambolic handling of the pandemic; if that happens...

Their usual airtime slots have basically been taken up by scientists.

I do hope we have an enquiry. It would be scandalous if we do not.
 
Their usual airtime slots have basically been taken up by scientists.

I do hope we have an enquiry. It would be scandalous if we do not.

It will. But they are going to need to be dragged screaming to accept one.
It is up to us to push hard for it.
I have and will continue to lobby my (useless Tory) MP.
 
Yes.
I do still believe that their time will come as we draw closer to an election though.
And hopefully when a public inquiry into the government shambolic handling of the pandemic; if that happens...

'Time will come' for what?
If there is a public enquiry into the handling of the Pandemic it will be along the lines of an evaluation exercise, of what went right, and what didn't, it will be non political, there will be no 'blame game'; unless Labour are 'praying' for another pandemic to occur, when they are the government, just so they can show they would do it right!

A post Covid 'hammering' of the Government over its handling of a pandemic that no one had experienced before, is not viable, yes it might soothe brows of those who only want to get stuck into the Tories but it is not a vote winner for future elections. Labour should be wary of focusing on a 'sitting/easy' target and anyone suggesting that they do!

The 'Levelling up' promises and any targets that Boris set is the thing Labour should be focusing; on again not 'name calling of the Tories', but actually putting forward policies to achieve that aim, quicker and more effective than any Tory ideas, in other words 'steal the Tory's 'levelling- up' clothes, but do it faster, better and smarter!

The one good thing coming out of Labour's 'Corbyn Leadership' era was that for a while Labour did have some policies that resonated with the public; then finding they were getting a good response, they went completely mad and started promising everything to everybody, and subsequently any chance of affecting a GE result via realistic policy, went down in flames.
 
Yet again and with over 100,000 covid related deaths, Starmer was not really able to score a knockout punch on Johnson.
This I believe is because Starmer is too much of a gentleman who believes that logic and tough questions are going to unsettle Boris.
Unfortunately, Starmer is going to have to become less well mannered and more brutal in his dealings with the PM.

Its not that easy though, you can’t just stick the boot into the government in the middle of a massive crisis without looking like opportunistic dicks who put politics above the national interest. Politicians have made this mistake before and suffered for it.
 









Every single feckin day it seems another one of these dodgy contracts comes to light.

I don't think anyting has made me so angry in recent times. It's gone beyond 'Cronyism' into theft and corruption on a national scale and yet barely a peep from the msm.
 









Every single feckin day it seems another one of these dodgy contracts comes to light.

I don't think anyting has made me so angry in recent times. It's gone beyond 'Cronyism' into theft and corruption on a national scale and yet barely a peep from the msm.

It's the sort of thing that if it happened in another country we would be laughing at how corrupt that nation is.
 
I won't be holding my breath for a Panorama investigation that's for sure.

It is disturbing because the majority of the public have no idea this is going on at all.
Yup, which is why the Tories will keep winning as long as their media pals keep them cosy.

The best we can genuinely hope for is a socialist clone of Donald Trump to run around shouting "fake news, eat the rich" or one of the Pop Idol winners* to run as a Labour candidate.

Until then they'll see Tories as, arseholes sure but still, competent and tough politicians whilst Labour are the party of a war criminal, a man who called a bigot a bigot, and Compo from Last of the Summer Wine.

*Any Saturday night boring TV show star will do.
 









Every single feckin day it seems another one of these dodgy contracts comes to light.

I don't think anyting has made me so angry in recent times. It's gone beyond 'Cronyism' into theft and corruption on a national scale and yet barely a peep from the msm.

The media are not holding the Tories to account because they serve their financial interests.

No surprise, this is the same media that convinces people to vote against their interests on Brexit and in the GE, that Corbyn would be a national threat. The lifetime anti racist is branded anti semitic.

Meanwhile we have the Tories wasting billions on contracts to their donors. Draining the public finances for their own private benefit, leaving the UK in a noose of debt on contracts to failed companies which have not delivered any value or assets for the country. Spy cop bills being passed allowing rape and murder by undercover officers. A PM boasting about shaking hands with people during a pandemic and over 110,000 deaths, the highest death toll in Europe. Grim.