Westminster Politics

Just watching the PMQs now. Bojo really losing his cool. Really stark contrast of styles. Personally I am much more comfortable with the calm, logical style of Starmer vs the emotive, "passion" of Bojo.
 
Just watching the PMQs now. Bojo really losing his cool. Really stark contrast of styles. Personally I am much more comfortable with the calm, logical style of Starmer vs the emotive, "passion" of Bojo.
Fake passion and bluster. He has likely been briefed by Cummings to show outrage and be a bit more 'Trumpian' in how he responds to Starmers detailed grilling in PMQs.
 
Fake passion and bluster. He has likely been briefed by Cummings to show outrage and be a bit more 'Trumpian' in how he responds to Starmers detailed grilling in PMQs.
It still riles me up to this day when Miliband asked Cameron to explain why so many people were being forced to turn to food banks to survive and his response was "how dare you insult the hard working people who run the food banks". Toothless opposition let this grow and grow up to now where they can blatantly lie and they think they're untouchable. Which for the most part they are.

Looking at you, Dom.
 
British Airways does not attend meeting with Britain's interior minister Priti Patel

(Reuters) - British Airways and its parent company IAG did not attend a meeting on Thursday with Britain’s interior minister Priti Patel, with the meeting meant to discuss the UK’s new quarantine plans.

“Neither IAG nor BA attended the meeting”, an IAG spokeswoman told Reuters in an emailed statement, declining to comment further when asked for the reason and if there were any conditions put forward by the company to attend future talks with the government.

The BBC earlier reported the development, adding that the operator was upset at what it saw as a lack of consultation over the quarantine’s introduction.
 

I was thinking about this sort of thing the other day. There's no way she can actually believe there's no racism in the UK. I find it hard to believe there's any BAME people in this country who have gone their whole lives without experiencing any form of racism.

I reckon an ethnic minority could do quite well financially if they have no morals or self worth, and basically just parrot right wing talking points about everyone being equally able to succeed if they just work hard enough etc
 
I was thinking about this sort of thing the other day. There's no way she can actually believe there's no racism in the UK. I find it hard to believe there's any BAME people in this country who have gone their whole lives without experiencing any form of racism.

I reckon an ethnic minority could do quite well financially if they have no morals or self worth, and basically just parrot right wing talking points about everyone being equally able to succeed if they just work hard enough etc
Didn't she come from a pretty well off family who owned a bunch of newsagents? Not saying wealth eradicates racism but her experience in life is far from the same as everyone else's.
 
Didn't she come from a pretty well off family who owned a bunch of newsagents? Not saying wealth eradicates racism but her experience in life is far from the same as everyone else's.
I wasn't aware of her background but even rich Asians face discrimination, albeit it'll be more subtle and less in your face.

I suppose it does make sense she's turned out the way she has if she was from a well off family.
 
I wasn't aware of her background but even rich Asians face discrimination, albeit it'll be more subtle and less in your face.

I suppose it does make sense she's turned out the way she has if she was from a well off family.


From the Ugandan migration of the 70s. I don't think she identifies as anything else other than British.
 
But Jeremy Corbyn, or something. Plus, today Boris said the UK wasn't racist....so everything's tickety-boo. Tories make me fecking sick.
 
Has anyone pressed Boris yet on saying blacks lives matter but having said many racist things in the past?

If not, why not? And it’s an easy opportunity to make him look the cnut he is.
 
But Jeremy Corbyn, or something. Plus, today Boris said the UK wasn't racist....so everything's tickety-boo. Tories make me fecking sick.

That is yet another gross generalisation from Boris.
Quite how he thinks he can say or even know the views of millions of people is typical of how blinkered he is.
 
kier starmer once again bettered boris who floundered all the way through PMQ'S
I agree, and appreciate that it's difficult for him as he's obliged to be somewhat restrained (given Labour's desperate need for credibility, in order to be taken seriously by the electorate again), but...where is the anger at what this government and Prime Minister have done? Who will speak for those of us who are outraged at the misconduct, the casual and lazy neglect, the amateurishness, the arrogance?

As it stands, PMQs on a Wednesday is a bit of trial for Johnson - a brief trial - then it's an all too rare briefing appearance and his one-day-per-week job is apparently done; then he disappears again. All of this is simply not good enough, and should be called out with justified anger and contempt, regardless of how it would be framed as 'the looney Left frothing at the mouth, as usual'.
 
I agree, and appreciate that it's difficult for him as he's obliged to be somewhat restrained (given Labour's desperate need for credibility, in order to be taken seriously by the electorate again), but...where is the anger at what this government and Prime Minister have done? Who will speak for those of us who are outraged at the misconduct, the casual and lazy neglect, the amateurishness, the arrogance?

As it stands, PMQs on a Wednesday is a bit of trial for Johnson - a brief trial - then it's an all too rare briefing appearance and his one-day-per-week job is apparently done; then he disappears again. All of this is simply not good enough, and should be called out with justified anger and contempt, regardless of how it would be framed as 'the looney Left frothing at the mouth, as usual'.

I believe that there is increasing annoyance at the government mishandling and incompetence in the overall handling of this pandemic.

It is no good Boris looking around in his usual stupid way without identifying a clear and coherent strategic plan.

He must know that Labour were going to attack him on the school debacle.
So where was his sound reasoning.

Instead, he resorted to his usual tactic. Blame Starmer.

He is rapidly becoming a laughing stock.
 
Notice how Boris starts banging the dispatch box harder and harder as sessions go on against Starmer.
 
It still riles me up to this day when Miliband asked Cameron to explain why so many people were being forced to turn to food banks to survive and his response was "how dare you insult the hard working people who run the food banks". Toothless opposition let this grow and grow up to now where they can blatantly lie and they think they're untouchable. Which for the most part they are.

Looking at you, Dom.

Boris pretty much tried this today in reframing Starmers criticism on the death numbers as a criticism not of the government but of the NHS and countries effort. Wasn't so blatant but that was the angle.

Incapable of anything but deflection.
 
I'm honestly not criticising Johnson for the sake of it, or because of my personal politics, but I'm really struck by how incredibly bad he is at this tactic (i.e. making out that Starmer is attacking the government or the NHS instead of helping matters as Labour stated they would do during the crisis). It says a lot that Johnson is viewed by his set as some great entertainer and wit; how the hell does he think words like 'tergiversations' will go down with the rest of the public? Such deeply serious circumstances are hardly the arena for verbal grandstanding...
 
Is it true Sunak is meeting the 1922 committee? Any chance this is a quiet conversation about ousting Boris?

Be amazing to have another unelected PM.
 
Is it true Sunak is meeting the 1922 committee? Any chance this is a quiet conversation about ousting Boris?

Be amazing to have another unelected PM.
Mr Future PM Material was out and about at a market this morning, with his shirts sleeves up in the time-honoured focus group-inspired way. Bleugh.
 
Mr Future PM Material was out and about at a market this morning, with his shirts sleeves up in the time-honoured focus group-inspired way. Bleugh.

Honestly, I don't get this future PM thing.
It is not that difficult to hand out public money, especially during a situation like we have now.

The really difficult thing is managing the economy through a deep recession which will be caused by corona as well as the self inflicted problems of brexit.

Let's see how he manages the economy through the next few years before we think about him as a future PM.
 
Honestly, I don't get this future PM thing.
It is not that difficult to hand out public money, especially during a situation like we have now.

The really difficult thing is managing the economy through a deep recession which will be caused by corona as well as the self inflicted problems of brexit.

Let's see how he manages the economy through the next few years before we think about him as a future PM.
indeed - most probably there is going to have to be some tax increases - lets see how his popularity fares at that point ... and besides if anybody pushes in line in front of gove he will 100% knife them in the back
 
indeed - most probably there is going to have to be some tax increases - lets see how his popularity fares at that point ... and besides if anybody pushes in line in front of gove he will 100% knife them in the back
Agreed, when he starts delivering bad news we will see how ‘future PM’ he will be.
 
Has anyone pressed Boris yet on saying blacks lives matter but having said many racist things in the past?

If not, why not? And it’s an easy opportunity to make him look the cnut he is.
To be fair, the Tories have been defunding the police since before it was fashionable.
 
indeed - most probably there is going to have to be some tax increases - lets see how his popularity fares at that point ... and besides if anybody pushes in line in front of gove he will 100% knife them in the back

Ultimately, there will be a need for tax increases.
But in my view, that should not be the first action.

The first action has to be to stimulate the economy.
Unfortunately, we are far too reliant on the service sector.
So we can not manufacture our way out.

I would like to see VAT temporarily reduced in order to stimulate growth.
Once the economy has stabilised at whatever level of recession, increasing taxes will only stunt potential growth.

And let's not forget the impending hit from finally leaving the EU.
 
I would like to see VAT temporarily reduced in order to stimulate growth.
Once the economy has stabilised at whatever level of recession, increasing taxes will only stunt potential growth.

Agreed (although my reduction of VAT wouldn't be temporary).

I'd also like to see an increase in the tax free allowance. Increasing the minimum wage above inflation in the current climate is going to be hugely counterproductive but giving a pay rise to particularly lower earners should be a priority.

I'm not sure if it's workable but I also wonder whether some sort of temporary corporation tax relief could be given to companies that take on young people over the next few years too since they'll be the worst hit (possibly a % of corporation tax so that businesses that avoid huge amounts would be prejudiced against).

With the minimum wage as it is and the pool of possible candidates for unskilled jobs as it will inevitably be I can't see the incentive for businesses to employ for example a 25 year old with very little experience.