Westminster Politics

The big guns of Boris Caligari's Cabinet (Hancock, Sunak etc) arrive on cue with natural, unsolicited and spontaneous messages of support.

They're all told to do that. I remember that car crash Theresa May conference speech when the lettering fell off and she could barely speak and afterwards on cue they all went on twitter to praise it (even though most of them wanted her out after 2017 election).
 
You do realise it’s only that long because you’re on your phone? I’m intrigued as to whether you read any long form articles?

most people will be reading this forum on their phone. A large block of text is really difficult to read. I don’t have issues reading long article on my phone, because usually they are formatted properly.
 
The simplest answers are usually the true ones. So did Cummings breach the guidelines because;
A) he couldn't get childcare in London so he went 260 miles North to stay with family so that they could watch the kid and then took a trip to test his eyesight before coming back to London for childcare that had magically just appeared.
Or
B) he took his family up to his parents' country estate for a holiday and got caught.
And the answer doesn't matter because the problem was breaching the guidelines in the first place.
I choose option b.

I also dont believe his claim that he didn't visit his parents or sister and that they communicated by shouting across the dinner. Absolute bollocks. Am sure his mother made fantastic hot dinners every night, and they all sat around the table enjoying the warmth of family camaraderie while other people couldn't even attend the funeral of their parent or child.
 
It so sure about that!

I would say if it was necessary, then you can write a paragraph of however many lines are needed.

if you want, I am sure you can rewatch the press conference and see approximately how many lines were in each of his paragraphs.
Honestly, do you want me to start photographing pages of books and posting them? 23 lines in a paragraph is clearly and demonstrably not unusual. (Edit: It's only 23 lines because of the screen that you're using too as an aside).

If I must justify my stylistic choice: I was deliberately writing Cummings fecking ridiculous position in a single paragraph to maximise the impact of how bloody silly it is. This was a deliberate decision to heighten the message I was making.

However, this is a totally fecking ridiculous digression which is one of the several distraction techniques you've deployed in this thread to distract from what you palpably know to be the truth:

Your boy fecked up big time.

Only used words of one syllable there too, just in case you decided to go for that angle.

The reasons why people feel this are not only very transparent but explained several times in this thread although sometimes perhaps using too many words or a paragraph structure you may have found unappealing.
 
Fair enough. I expect there to be some public indignation directed at police trying to enforce the regs. Nice position to be put in

Oh yeah I'm fuming about it all. It's difficult enough dealing with selfish know it all prats as it is and this just adds fuel to the fire.
 
Shows what a load of who ha this media outrage is, and a waste of everyone’s time and effort.

man drives to family home to support his wife and child.

mind you, this is such a left wing, Labour forum that this will be considered controversial.

“Man drives his family sick with contagious virus the length of the country, while entire country stays home”

That’s not a left wing point. It’s fact.
 
most people will be reading this forum on their phone. A large block of text is really difficult to read. I don’t have issues reading long article on my phone, because usually they are formatted properly.

You lay into other posters about not being articulate enough for you, but by your own admission, you find 23 lines of text really difficult to read... Er, okay then. :wenger:
 
The point he was making was that was After the had isolated for 14 days and based on science shouldnt have been able to pass it on.

The primary issue is whether he was able to arrange alternative child care in London.

At the start of this episode, he clearly stated that he was not able to arrange child care and therefore the only option was to drive to Durham.

My point is that I cannot believe that a senior government official had no plans for emergency child care and his only option was to do that.
 
The primary issue is whether he was able to arrange alternative child care in London.

At the start of this episode, he clearly stated that he was not able to arrange child care and therefore the only option was to drive to Durham.

My point is that I cannot believe that a senior government official had no plans for emergency child care and his only option was to do that.
His wife's family members in close proximity were also an option but he didn't want to risk their health.

The niece was fair game though it seems.
 
Honestly, do you want me to start photographing pages of books and posting them? 23 lines in a paragraph is clearly and demonstrably not unusual.

If I must justify my stylistic choice: I was deliberately writing Cummings fecking ridiculous position in a single paragraph to maximise the impact of how bloody silly it is. This was a deliberate decision to heighten the message I was making.

However, this is a totally fecking ridiculous digression which is one of the several distraction techniques you've deployed in this thread to distract from what you palpably know to be the truth:

Your boy fecked up big time.

Only used words of one syllable there two, just in case you decided to go for that angle.

The reasons why people feel this are not only very transparent but explained several times in this thread although sometimes perhaps using too many words or a paragraph structure you may have found unappealing.

The post you have written is much easier to read. Thanks, well done - I appreciate it.

Although, I think your last paragraph could do with some punctuation, so I can understand what you are trying to convey.

he’s not my boy.

I’d love you to go off and take pictures of long paragraphs and post them on here. It really would make my day.
 
:lol: He wanted to make sure he was safe to drive...so he packed up the car with his wife and kids. Yeah, put the kids in the car when you're worried you can't drive. It makes no sense.

He’s the kind of nasty cnut that wouldn’t want his family to survive him. Definitely a ‘If I can’t live you must all die’ kind of sociopath.
 
Asked if he stopped for petrol, he said probably but could not be sure.

Assuming he left London with a full tank, he drove to Durham, plus an ‘eye test‘ jolly at Barnard Castle. What fecking car can do 580 miles without refuelling?

He obviously stopped for fuel, so why the loss of memory?
 
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He’s the kind of nasty cnut that wouldn’t want his family to survive him. Definitely a ‘If I can’t live you must all die’ kind of sociopath.
Yep. Just like that fella from Germany...Oliver Kahn.
 
It's demonstrably clear that Cummings thinks you are stupid. If he didn't he'd have spent some time creating an excuse that actually makes sense, but they know that there's a mass of people that will lap up and repeat whatever bullshit they put out.

I disagree that they tried to create an excuse which would persuade people what he did is right. My prediction is that telling people that he drove when his eyesight was bad will fill the headlines tomorrow and for the next few days. They're probably hoping that the police pick it up to investigate to prolong the exposure and that people will be talking about that rather than the fact he went to Durham in the first place.

By the time all that has passed and he at worst gets a public telling off from the police people will have forgotten that the real issue was his breaking of lock-down and the press will have their bit of blood so will move onto the next thing. It's all very deliberate in my opinion.
 
Not sure what is worse. Traveling across the country infected while perfectly informed of what the consequences to others might be of that, or trying to use your 4 old son to weasel yourself out of trouble for it.

What a shitstain of a politician.
 
The post you have written is much easier to read. Thanks, well done - I appreciate it.

Although, I think your last paragraph could do with some punctuation, so I can understand what you are trying to convey.

he’s not my boy.

I’d love you to go off and take pictures of long paragraphs and post them on here. It really would make my day.
Yes, I adapted my style to help you out. Glad you appreciate it. Hope it warms your grizzled old heart.

You do realise that your grammar isn't particularly strong don't you? You're not launching your pedantic attacks from a position of strength.

He is your boy. I know baiting the Labour loving lefties in their echo chamber is your game but that means you've got to adopt these guys that you'll defend pretty much no matter what they do. He's your boy by default.

241 words in a paragraph is not in by any normal standards "massive" and the topic didn't change. I'm comfortable with that.

However, I'll continue to use short sentences to aid your comprehension. Just for you.
 
Good stuff. That'd be a very common number of sentences in those book things you obnoxiously suggested I look at earlier.

To follow the spirit of your line of questioning regarding distances travelled earlier: how many lines would you consider to not be massive? 19? 12? 8? Or would it simply be whatever length of paragraph Dominic Cummings happened to use that would just the right length of paragraph to avoid the wrath of your partizan belligerent pedantry?
Ha! Good one.
 
it’s quite difficult to know what I “don’t get” without you stating what it is, so thanks for now elaborating.

it’s pretty difficult to read one massive paragraph for a start, to accept my apologies in not reading in detail a massive block of text.

Do I see anything wrong in travelling to Durham in those circumstances, and if they don’t have other child care option - no.

do I see anything wrong in him picking up his child from hospital, who got taken awayin an ambulance - no.

is the story about his eyesight and the need for a test drive as fishy as hell - yes.

is this something the media and government should be focusing on and dedicating days to get to the bottom of - no.

is every political opponent jumping on this and making it more of a story to gain politically - obviously yes (as always happens in opposition).

You’re boring.
You enjoy being governed by a ruling class
You voted for terrible humans
You’re probably a garbage person.
 
Dom-estic abuse.
I can't help thinking about John Profumo, Steve. He resigned for lying to the House - but of course, went on to have a very honourable life and worked for charity as a volunteer for the rest of his days. Compared to this whining muppet, we've gone a million miles backwards as far as political integrity is concerned.
 
Asked if he stopped for petrol, he said probably but could not be sure.

Assuming he left London with a full tank, he drove to Durham, plus an ‘eye test‘ jolly at Barnard Castle. What fecking car can do 580 miles without refuelling?

He obviously stopped for fuel, so why the loss of memory?

He definitely stated that he did not stop on the way to Durham.
Anyway. If he did stop for fuel on the way back, he should have used his card.
So that can be easily checked.

But that is a slideshow.
Was his London home a target. There must be evidence of this.

Why did a senior government official not have emergency child care support in a city the size of London.

Why did he have to drive 30 miles with his son to 'test his eyesight'.

Come on. He had weeks to come up with a better story than that.
 
I know we're bad but we don't have our politicians saying this whole thing is a Democratic plot and that we should inject bleach, refuse to wear masks and storm government buildings to demand they let us go back to work.

If Cummings was part of the US government he'd be sacked, though. Or at the very least they'd have clarified they didn't think he was doing anything wrong at the time he did it.

Stupdity is one thing but stupidity with a complete lack of any integrity is quite something else. Trump comes out and tells the world he's a clown. Our lot dress as responsible adults and then only reveal they're clowns once people have followed their advice and thrown themselves off the cliff.
 
I can't help thinking about John Profumo, Steve. He resigned for lying to the House - but of course, went on to have a very honourable life and worked for charity as a volunteer for the rest of his days. Compared to this whining muppet, we've gone a million miles backwards as far as political integrity is concerned.

Not sure about that, you had guys like Cyril Smith who was a paedophile and serial rapist who did things like lying to parliament to cover up the dangers of asbestos at the world‘s biggest asbestos factory in Rochdale.

I‘d argue they were a lot worse then in many regards because they could get away with nefarious deeds more easily.
 
You’re boring.
You enjoy being governed by a ruling class
You voted for terrible humans
You’re probably a garbage person.

Garbage person :lol::lol:

let’s just remember the choice we had when we last voted, the alternative being a Corbyn led government.

Somewhat brush to call everyone who voted for the largest party a garbage person (whatever that may be!).
 
He definitely stated that he did not stop on the way to Durham.
Anyway. If he did stop for fuel on the way back, he should have used his card.
So that can be easily checked.

But that is a slideshow.
Was his London home a target. There must be evidence of this.

Why did a senior government official not have emergency child care support in a city the size of London.

Why did he have to drive 30 miles with his son to 'test his eyesight'.

Come on. He had weeks to come up with a better story than that.
I think it weird that he could not be sure if he stopped for fuel, why lie about it?
 
I can't help thinking about John Profumo, Steve. He resigned for lying to the House - but of course, went on to have a very honourable life and worked for charity as a volunteer for the rest of his days. Compared to this whining muppet, we've gone a million miles backwards as far as political integrity is concerned.
And, typically, it was (apparently) the women who were immoral.
Seriously, little changes in Britain, and it's been like this for centuries.
 
Was this eyesight test drive thing a big old Trumpian style distraction?

Give everyone something so ridiculous to run with so we ignore the fundamental issues at the heart of his story? Now I’ve digested it a bit it just feels too constructed. They’ve had over 48 hours to get this story sorted and the excuse they come up with was “eyesight”.
 
Asked if he stopped for petrol, he said probably but could not be sure.

Assuming he left London with a full tank, he drove to Durham, plus an ‘eye test‘ jolly at Barnard Castle. What fecking car can do 580 miles without refuelling?

He obviously stopped for fuel, so why the loss of memory?

Mine. But then again, I doubt he has a Mondeo estate (lay off me, it’s a company car).

There must be so many families where both parents had the disease at a similar time. How does he think they’ve all managed it.
 
Garbage person :lol::lol:

let’s just remember the choice we had when we last voted, the alternative being a Corbyn led government.

Somewhat brush to call everyone who voted for the largest party a garbage person (whatever that may be!).
Would love to have heard your opinion if Corbyn had won the election and his chief advisor conducted himself the exact same way as Cummings did. Food for thought? Your tribalism is very transparent.
 
Johnson: "To the best of my knowledge, Mr Cummings has just subjected himself to your interrogation for quite a long time now"

'Interrogation'. They're the victims, folks. Who knew?