Westminster Politics

Rolandofgilead said:
Ok I want us all to make a bit of money out of this fiasco, so @sun_tzu @Sassy Colin as our resident Tories (or as close as we have?) do you expect Boris to Win and what do you think his overall vote percentage will be?
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I was a member of the labour party till fairly recently but meh
I think Boris will win but at 1/7 on I don't think it's worth backing him
I'd guess about 65%-70% of the vote but honestly I wouldn't bet on anything with Boris as between now and the result he could totally gash it up and might end up just scraping home depending on the gaffes he makes

Next chancellor odds are more interesting I think
https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/next-chancellor

I'd stick some money on saaj and some on mogg

Rumours are Johnson might give it saaj but I wouldn't rule mogg out as an early backer of the Johnson campaign... He must have been promiced something

Put 2/3 on saj and 1/3 on mogg

Say 100 on Saj and 50 on mogg
450 back if mogg gets it
275 if saaj gets it
 
711 said:
Saaj is bleedin obvious given his financial (if dodgy) background. Mogg for foreign sec.
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Mogg has a pretty strong finance background as well... Plus he was one the very first prominent public backers bringing a chunk of the erg with him... For sure he has been promiced something I think.

I wonder if he will try and give gove the Northern Ireland job because he feking hates him and it's payback as its going to go to shit with a Hard brexit Gove spoke about having such good realtionahips with all sides over there during the leadership contest
 
This made me laugh. Then cry.
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sun_tzu said:
Mogg has a pretty strong finance background as well... Plus he was one the very first prominent public backers bringing a chunk of the erg with him... For sure he has been promiced something I think.

I wonder if he will try and give gove the Northern Ireland job because he feking hates him and it's payback as its going to go to shit with a Hard brexit Gove spoke about having such good realtionahips with all sides over there during the leadership contest
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Mogg does have a finance background, but as you say I think he is in more of a position to choose than Saj, and he'd go for Foreign sec.
 
Grinner said:
Will Mark Francois get a big job? A giant shit on his head would be my choice, but I mean summat in the cabinet.
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Hard to know but under Johnson I suspect a lot of brexiteers will be in prominent roles
Probably not Davies as he didn't run due to family issues...
I could see somebody batshit crazy about brexit as brexit secretary... Francois possibly maybe raab or even Esther mcvey
Treasury... Mogg or saaj
Foreign... Hunt if he plays nice in the election or mogg
International development... Francois / raab... Somebody brexity
Home... Perhaps ids or somebody like that
Health...hunt if he does not play nice possibly hancock
Ireland... Gove because he still hates him and it's going to be a difficult job with hard brexit etc
feck me it's gonna be bad
 
Boris said:
“I would rather than confiding in this archaic device to get this thing done at my own behest, I would rather confide in the maturity of common sense of parliamentarians, all of whom are now staring down the barrel of public distrust.”
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It amazes me sometimes that the best schools and universities that money can buy manage to deliver people who form sentences like this one. And then they probably become the next prime minister..
 
Boris to scrape home, vote of no confidence within 4 months, Corbyn gets ousted and Tom Watson becomes Prime Minister. Second referendum and we remain.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Twitter is awash with rumours that Bojo boned Bip Ling (which is pleasingly alliterative, if nothing else) Bip Ling is some kind of influencer, who I think sings on that (terrible) song.
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Oh, she actually looked alright when I googled her. Politics an power really are aphrodisiacs if he can get so much and even Prescott and Robin Cook got a bit of action.
 
blue blue said:
Boris to scrape home, vote of no confidence within 4 months, Corbyn gets ousted and Tom Watson becomes Prime Minister. Second referendum and we remain.
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Hi Mr Watson, welcome to the forum. Congratulations on the weight loss too.
 
Sweet Square said:
Vote Liberal get Tory.

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The two Liberal leadership contenders said they would refuse coalition with Corbyn because he is a Brexiter, but wouldn't rule out coalition with a different Labour leader. So, if they offered coalition with a new Remain Labour leader would you support a Labour leadership change or prefer to see a Tory government?
 
711 said:
The two Liberal leadership contenders said they would refuse coalition with Corbyn because he is a Brexiter, but wouldn't rule out coalition with a different Labour leader. So, if they offered coalition with a new Remain Labour leader would you support a Labour leadership change or prefer to see a Tory government?
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Liberals probably not too keen on collective farming and co-operatives either.
 
711 said:
I'll try again, would you support removing Corbyn and replacing him with a Remain Labour leader or prefer a Tory government?
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:lol:

So are you just dropping the whole the lib Dems are only not supporting Corbyn because of Brexit then ?

As for your question well yeah if getting someone like Clive Lewis in meant Labour would win a general election and put forward a left wing manifesto then yeah I would(I'm not as fascinated with Corbyn as well the people who dislike him are)

But

1) Corbyn has come out for a people vote, so er...... him being a secret brexiter is something in your head.

2)There nothing to suggest simply replacing Corbyn with a more openly pro Euro candidate would get labour into power(Or for millionith time gets us another referendum)
 
Sweet Square said:
:lol:

So are you just dropping the whole the lib Dems are only not supporting Corbyn because of Brexit then ?

As for your question well yeah if getting someone like Clive Lewis in meant Labour would win a general election and put forward a left wing manifesto then yeah I would(I'm not as fascinated with Corbyn as well the people who dislike him are)

But

1) Corbyn has come out for a people vote, so er...... him being a secret brexiter is something in your head.

2)There nothing to suggest simply replacing Corbyn with a more openly pro Euro candidate would get labour into power(Or for millionith time gets us another referendum)
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:lol: It may be a secret for you but it's obvious to everyone else.
A people's vote for an agreement in parliament and the only possible agreement is the one Corbyn himself and his party voted against.
 
Paul the Wolf said:
:lol: It may be a secret for you but it's obvious to everyone else.
A people's vote for an agreement in parliament and the only possible agreement is the one Corbyn himself and his party voted against.
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Ah from the brilliant mind of iPhones are causing the housing crisis.
 
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Sweet Square said:
Is it more or less obvious then iPhones causing the housing crisis ?
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We've been over this about 4 times - you must do better.

If Corbyn 's not a Brexiter let's see a vigorous campaign from Labour now to stop the insanity and prevent the UK crashing out with no deal in 4 months time. Perhaps by being the opposition for a change and not proposing ridiculous alternative ways of leaving (which by the way is not remaining) - any form of Brexit will be a disaster - just a question of degree, very bad to catastrophic, surely a true Remainer would fight.
 
Sweet Square said:
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So are you just dropping the whole the lib Dems are only not supporting Corbyn because of Brexit then ?

As for your question well yeah if getting someone like Clive Lewis in meant Labour would win a general election and put forward a left wing manifesto then yeah I would(I'm not as fascinated with Corbyn as well the people who dislike him are)

But

1) Corbyn has come out for a people vote, so er...... him being a secret brexiter is something in your head.

2)There nothing to suggest simply replacing Corbyn with a more openly pro Euro candidate would get labour into power(Or for millionith time gets us another referendum)
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Thanks for the answer, eventually. The point you originally made, which was that a vote for the Liberals was a vote for a Tory/Liberal coalition seemed like it might have some validity, so I wondered how far Labour would be prepared to move themselves to achieve a coalition, and you've answered that well, ditch Corbyn for a start. It does mean that your original point was incorrect though, and you now think voting Liberal could mean a Lib/Lab coalition as well as a Lib/Con coalition, which is what I was trying to determine really. Obviously someone could win outright, but I can't see that at the moment.
 
The Lib Dems went into coalition with the Tories when their party was full of Brexiteers, I'm largely tired of Corbyn now and think he's doing a fairly rubbish job as leader but if the electoral math were there the Lib Dems should clearly be going into coalition with him if they get the chance because his party is still mostly filled with Remainers, and such a move would likely appeal to their Remain base more than another deal with the Tories.
 
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