Just Diane Abbott openly trolling her party leader.
Westminster Politics 2024-2029
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Just Diane Abbott openly trolling her party leader.
Shouldn't they be called WASPE?
This is embarrassing from the BBC.
There was a real sliding doors moment with that plane crash.
Still good to know Farage is getting a hagiography. No need to mention his fascism. Gets in the way of the message.
Still good to know Farage is getting a hagiography. No need to mention his fascism. Gets in the way of the message.
The beeb created the farage, when regularly platforming him on QT when he was still a nobody.
Anyone who uses the phrase "at the end of the day" really is a fecking moron, aren't they?
Dear fecking lord. I’m fed up of people licking his arsehole.
They're definitely moving the dial.
Ministers resist calls to block Musk donations to Farage’s Reform UK
“We’ll beat Reform by defeating their arguments rather than changing the rules to stop them getting money from Elon Musk,” said a source. “You don’t successfully take on populists by changing the rules in bid to thwart them.”
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...-to-block-musk-donations-to-farages-reform-uk
“We’ll beat Reform by defeating their arguments rather than changing the rules to stop them getting money from Elon Musk,” said a source. “You don’t successfully take on populists by changing the rules in bid to thwart them.”
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...-to-block-musk-donations-to-farages-reform-uk
Yeah this country is absolutely fecked. Reform will win the next election and Labour will all be sitting there with pockets stuffed full of cash crying “how did this happen?”
Yeah, and I’ll take this knife to a gun fight and come out the victor.
Absolute idiocy. They must be somehow totally unaware that the majority of Reform voters aren't supporting their arguments, but simply opposing the government with protest votes, having lost faith in the ability of the two main parties to give us anything but the abject shit show we've had 15 years of. And there will be millions more protest votes if Labour carry on governing as they have been doing. They very urgently need to prevent an influx of money from the likes of Elon Musk to make the next election anything but a forgone conclusion.
Apparently a populist political movement is one which is underwritten by a billionaire with a blank cheque book.
The UK is about to marketplace of ideas themselves into fascism.
Yup. The worst thing is that I can see Reform abolishing devolution as well.
Are you speaking about devolution of councils?
Labour said they wanted more city mayor's, it could push out local elections as the boundaries or even the local council will change.
The cynic in me can see why they are driving this change very quickly.
That's 33% gain, and a 33% loss to labour, Reform took only this one but they are making 8% to 30% gains.
People might say "the real point here is the turn out" - but to me the size of the data set doesn't matter its the information inside the data.
I am worried about about our economy lots of hiring freezing in the UK or 6 month contracts being offered.
Remember the discussion in here around why it matters Labour were taking massive private donations and some said it was a non-story? Yeah this is why it matters.
Labour won't do shit about Musk donations to Reform because their donations are equally questionable and none of them want to lose their cash cow.
Labour won't do shit about Musk donations to Reform because their donations are equally questionable and none of them want to lose their cash cow.
Tories are a laughing stock.
Reform have lost more by elections than they have one. Having worked in local government for many years, such by elections are dependent on a number of factors and outside parties / independents tend to do much better.
This is the problem they are in. They would be seen to be rigging the rules when the rules should have prevented such donations in the first place.
A lot will depend on how Trump gets on during his term as this country’s election will be after that. If it is a shitshow and Musk is associated with, Reform’s support will be affected. Reform have to a major gaining of seats to win, a more realistic situation will be a hung parliament.
That is why they are suddenly trying to push an election now because they are probably as popular as they will get with Trump winning as well. The problem for them as well is that they have plenty of time to get themselves into bother as well.
Everything about this is amazing. 'Professors say'? Sounds like a massive objection.
How many professors. Three.
"The letter was authored by three prominent historians, including Prof. Robert Tombs from St John’s College, Cambridge, Prof. David Abulafia of Gonville and Caius College, and Prof. Lawrence Goldman, emeritus fellow at St Peter’s College, Oxford."
Robert Tombs's speciality is 19th-century France, focusing primarily on the political culture of the working classes. He is a strong supporter of Brexit and founded 'History Reclaimed', which has praised Kemi Badenoch's historical grasp of the truth of the Atlantic slave trade.
This type of appeasement is despicable. Defending the process that would see a foreign billionaire have his way with the country, with the pathetic reasoning that it'll work itself out in the marketplace of ideas, so as to keep their own party's money faucet flowing, is rat cowardice. We need to bring back the pillory for people like this.
And that goes for any billionaire trying to buy influence, not just those with nazi and pedo proclivities.
The naivety here is that you think a party like Reform operate under the same standards as a British political party did 15-20 years ago. Trump and Johnson, as well as Braverman etc have shown that their brand of politics is scandal/bother proof. People simply don't care that they are corrupt, fraudulent, abuse women or all of the above, so long as they promise to make life worse for their enemies.
Also the notion that "everyone is corrupt anyway" so why bother focusing on the far right.
Very true. And while many people have given up on the traditional political parties, they've also surrendered the notion that they need a party to promise to improve things for them. They're happy now just to make things worse for other people, in the belief they'll be still alright somehow.
Sadly you are right on this front. Certain people are also lazy enough not to research topics and stories so the gotcha headlines pushed resonate with some people who lap it up as the real news.
For a party that is what....5 years old, they are doing very well.
I don't think you can separate that timescale from the history of UKIP/Brexit Party. The name is different but their voters remained consistent. It doesn't mean that they are not doing very well, but the kind of eurosceptic/socially conservative message they are promoting is not just 5 years old.
Did I say anything about the messages, I was speaking about them as a party - personally I think it's always good to have more opinions for the public.
If you or I don't like them, don't vote for them.
Do you vote for them?
Posting this until the end of time
David Graeber on the Extreme 'Centre'
David Graeber on the Extreme 'Centre'
No, I voted tories
That wasn't my point. My point was that I don't think we can claim they are 5 years old. They are the successor to UKIP and the Brexit Party, just like the Lib Dems are the successor to the Liberals. They are not new.
£100m spent in England on failed efforts to block children’s Send support
More than £100m was spent last year by local authorities and the government on failed efforts to block support for children and young people with special educational needs in England, according to analysis by the Guardian.
The enormous cost in legal fees and staff resources came after councils won just 136 out of more than 10,000 tribunals in 2022-23, a success rate of 1.2%, as record numbers of families took to the courts to challenge councils over agreements known as education, health and care plans (EHCPs).
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...ailed-efforts-to-block-childrens-send-support
That ended well
More than £100m was spent last year by local authorities and the government on failed efforts to block support for children and young people with special educational needs in England, according to analysis by the Guardian.
The enormous cost in legal fees and staff resources came after councils won just 136 out of more than 10,000 tribunals in 2022-23, a success rate of 1.2%, as record numbers of families took to the courts to challenge councils over agreements known as education, health and care plans (EHCPs).
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...ailed-efforts-to-block-childrens-send-support
That ended well
Remember, there's no money for anything. Warms the cockles, don't it?
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...ailed-efforts-to-block-childrens-send-support
Edit... Frosty got in before me!
£100m spent in England on failed efforts to block children’s Send support
'More than £100m was spent last year by local authorities and the government on failed efforts to block support for children and young people with special educational needs in England, according to analysis by the Guardian.'https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...ailed-efforts-to-block-childrens-send-support
Edit... Frosty got in before me!