Wesley Sneijder

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Ricardo Alvarez's Arsenal snub 'to gift Wesley Sneijder to Manchester United'

Read more: http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/868464-ricardo-alvarezs-arsenal-snub-to-gift-wesley-sneijder-to-man-united#ixzz1RQ9ryB6F


Inter Milan's signing of top Arsenal transfer target Ricardo Alvarez could mean Manchester United's continuing pursuit of Wesley Sneijder will be successful after all - with senior Old Trafford coach Rene Meulensteen backing the move.

Read more: Ricardo Alvarez's Arsenal snub 'to gift Wesley Sneijder transfer to Manchester United' | Metro.co.uk

Not the most reliable source, but here we go..
 
It is just too simplistic, but why doesnt Fergie, take Gill and one of the medical staff over to Milan and put our cards on the table; Can this deal be done or not? If so, lets make it happen. No bidding war, no nonsense, simply where do we sign.....

You've obviously never bid or worked out an agreement in your life. With 2 months left of the transfer period, no way would we go in guns blazing like that. We're in no position to start acting aggressive. We're in Inter's pocket now. Sneijder is not begging to be released; anything that gets produced comes down to them "being nice".

Bidding happens when two parties want differing somethings. Inter want a huge price tag, we want a cheap one. They aren't eager to sell, we are eager to buy. Sneijder wants lots of cash, we want to offer a sensible wage package. We want to act now, Inter would prefer to tow us around.
 
It is just too simplistic, but why doesnt Fergie, take Gill and one of the medical staff over to Milan and put our cards on the table; Can this deal be done or not? If so, lets make it happen. No bidding war, no nonsense, simply where do we sign.....

If that worked then everyone would do it.
 
It is just too simplistic, but why doesnt Fergie, take Gill and one of the medical staff over to Milan and put our cards on the table; Can this deal be done or not? If so, lets make it happen. No bidding war, no nonsense, simply where do we sign.....
Because that way we'd be at their mercy financially. Show that you're desperate to buy something and the cost of it suddenly triples.
 
I'm going to cling to this as gospel, on the basis that the combination of Arsenal being snubbed and Sneijder coming to United all in the same story is too delicious to ignore.

Some refer to that as "muppet in you triggered orgasm" :lol:
 
As reported by Luca Marchetti of Sky, Malaga on the plate would have an offer of 35 million euros for Wesley Sneijder. This evening we should also be a dinner between the representative of the player Soren Lerby and the entourage of Sheikh owner of Malaga, to find an agreement with the player who can be persuaded to accept the Spanish adventure.

If Sneijder had to go to Malaga, Man Utd will take Nasri Arsenal.
But how the money would be reinvested from the sale of the Dutch? There is talk of Casimir, Banega, but we must not leave aside the track that leads to Fabregas.

FC Inter 1908 - Tutta l'Inter 24/7
 
I just don't think we'll be going for Sneijder for the same reason we didn't go for him two years ago, and that's to do with what Neville's been saying recently - hunger, potential or the willingness/ability to be moulded to fit into the way this club works under Sir Alex's guidance.

Red Nev said:
"You're seeing signings with potential that can grow and deliver better than what they have done before," the 36-year-old told BBC Radio Manchester.

"Hungry players are always better than those who have got to the top already."

"The way the club always buys players who haven't reached the top of the mountain; they've always still got a climb to get there," he continued.

"I think it's been proven that when we try to buy the finished article it's difficult to.

"Don't get me wrong you can get people who have got to the top of the game and then can remain with that hunger, but I think it's very difficult.

"I think the best thing is to get people who have still got that little bit of development to go, and the manager always extracts the maximum amount out of players. That's the club policy and always will be."

I said something similar last year...

Hunger(mentality/character), suitability, quality, versatility, value. They're some of the factors, with Sneijder certainly ticking the box on two accounts, he's got quality and he was good value, but you'd assume he didn't tick some of the others in Sir Alex's view. We do go for players who are on the up, who have achieved relatively little in their career and have that hunger to reach the top, even with our most expensive signings - RVN, Rooney, Rio, Veron, Berbatov, they're our five most expensive signings, and they had one Serie A and two Eredivise titles between them, despite costing around £130m between them.

It made even less sense with the talk about Sneijder coming this summer, when you think about it - he'd have won a league title in Holland, Spain and Italy already, as many titles as those 5 combined!

Sneijder was leaving Real Madrid because he was getting kicked out, not because he had a hunger to player for any other certain club. VDV is likewise. Would Sneijder have disrupted the dressing room somewhat, upset the wage structure, shown a lack of appreciation for much of what makes Manchester United the club it is? We've no idea, but chances are there was a little of that and a little of him just not fitting in the current team, because in terms of quality and value I think anyone can see he was right up there with the best of them.
 
I just don't think we'll be going for Sneijder for the same reason we didn't go for him two years ago, and that's to do with what Neville's been saying recently - hunger, potential or the willingness/ability to be moulded to fit into the way this club works under Sir Alex's guidance.



I said something similar last year...


Whilst you're absolutely bang on in you analysis, this one is different. Fergie has always explicitly said that he would have to buy ''established'' players to replace Giggs and Scholes.


Sneijder may be at his peak, but he will be plenty hungry for success at United.


He is a genuine world-beater, who it seems is very keen on signing for us and at £35m would be a very fair deal...
 
Are we even interested in Sneijder? I'm sure we were linked with him a lot last summer and we came out and said that we weren't interested. Plus we've said we won't spend big money on players over 26 anymore.

Pretty sure we have never actually said that?
 
According to FreddieBoswell, an account on some social networking site of a football scout and Inter fan who has proven himself as reliable, we bid £30m for Sneijder last week.
 
Wasn't he in Bread?

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:lol:

Scouser. Don't trust.
 
Do Malaga have the same amount of stupidly ridiculous money as City though, or is it somewhat at a level in between Barcelona and Chelsea?
 
Do Malaga have the same amount of stupidly ridiculous money as City though, or is it somewhat at a level in between Barcelona and Chelsea?

Their Qatari owners are richer than City are they not?
 
The fact that Rene Meulensteen commented on him is proof enough that we are not after him.. We are/were probably looking at him but he is definitely not our 1st choice.. Remember when he commented on Martin Stekelenberg? We in turn signed David De Gea.. It was clearly a planted story..

There were 2 benefits:

1. Other clubs think we are after 1 player while we are actually after another..

2. Players who we are after begin to think about their opportunity of not playing for united if they do not agree a deal soon..

In both the De Gea and Sneijder situation I think its option 1

He is 27 as of last week.. Will demand over 200k in wages, a 30M+ Transfer fee, and will have absolutely no resale value in the transfer market at the ages of 31/32.. Nor will his transfer fee meet a break even on a value basis (We paid around 20M for DDG but he will potentially be with us for atleast 10 years so if you break that 20M over that period it will be a value signing)

Further more he in my very honest opinion is not a player who can play in a 442 (which is SAF's favourite formation imo) Also the position he should ideally occupy is the same position of one of the few players of our team that can be assured to start all games when fit.. Rooney who also happens to be our best player... So unless I am completely wrong I doubt Sneijder is United bound however much he wants to join us..
 
The fact that Rene Meulensteen commented on him is proof enough that we are not after him

Completely agree.

Couple that with Gary Neville's comments yesterday.

"You're seeing signings with potential that can grow and deliver better than what they have done before," the 36-year-old told BBC Radio Manchester.

"Hungry players are always better than those who have got to the top already."

"The way the club always buys players who haven't reached the top of the mountain; they've always still got a climb to get there," he continued.

"I think it's been proven that when we try to buy the finished article it's difficult to.

"Don't get me wrong you can get people who have got to the top of the game and then can remain with that hunger, but I think it's very difficult.

"I think the best thing is to get people who have still got that little bit of development to go, and the manager always extracts the maximum amount out of players. That's the club policy and always will be."

I'm certain now we won't be signing Sneijder.
 
The fact that Rene Meulensteen commented on him is proof enough that we are not after him.. We are/were probably looking at him but he is definitely not our 1st choice.. Remember when he commented on Martin Stekelenberg? We in turn signed David De Gea.. It was clearly a planted story..

There were 2 benefits:

1. Other clubs think we are after 1 player while we are actually after another..

2. Players who we are after begin to think about their opportunity of not playing for united if they do not agree a deal soon..

In both the De Gea and Sneijder situation I think its option 1

He is 27 as of last week.. Will demand over 200k in wages, a 30M+ Salary, and will have absolutely no resale value in the transfer market at the ages of 31/32.. Nor will his transfer fee meet a break even on a value basis (We paid around 20M for DDG but he will potentially be with us for atleast 10 years so if you break that 20M over that period it will be a value signing)

Further more he in my very honest opinion is not a player who can play in a 442 (which is SAF's favourite formation imo) Also the position he should ideally occupy is the same position of one of the few players of our team that can be assured to start all games when fit.. Rooney who also happens to be our best player... So unless I am completely wrong I doubt Sneijder is United bound however much he wants to join us..

Tell that to the muppets that want him so bad.
 
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