Wesley Sneijder

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Well that's your opinion, SAF prefers to do the latter.

Well no, SAF usually buys proven players when he needs an instant impact from them. VDS, Berbatov, Valencia, Hargreaves being a few of the recents.

And we do need an instant impact. £25m for Sneijder? Yes please.
 
Bloody hell people his 26 not 36!!! Nothing is wrong with his age. How old was Zidane when he made the move to Madrid??

Him or Modric should be our main priority. The only two midfielders out there that would improve us no questions asked.
 
Can't believe people are using his age against him, even in this forum.

He'd be a brilliant signing.
 
Can't believe people are using his age against him, even in this forum.

He'd be a brilliant signing.

Its madness, isn't it? What is he? 26-27?

Prime of his career, still a good several years out of him yet. He'd be a fantastic signing. Our midfield is in serious need of something new.
 
Just asking. Remember reading somewhere that he's been pretty under par this season.

Could be the post WC syndrome that has affected quite a number of players, plus it was a long year for him, treble and internationals.Still a world class talent
 
Forget it. With the weakness of the pound against the euro and the UK's 50p top rate of tax, I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest that we'd have to offer him in the region of 250k per week in order to match his take home pay at Inter. That would be an additional £50m over a four year contract and would be the type of agreement which would see us go over the club's self-imposed 50% wages to turnover limit.

Not going to happen.
 
Forget it. With the weakness of the pound against the euro and the UK's 50p top rate of tax, I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest that we'd have to offer him in the region of 250k per week in order to match his take home pay at Inter. That would be an additional £50m over a four year contract and would be the type of agreement which would see us go over the club's self-imposed 50% wages to turnover limit.

Not going to happen.

Ahh yes, because players never come and go and we just stock pile even if they're not playing? If and I say IF, scholes retires, the club doesn't renew Hargreaves contract or he goes on to a pay as you play deal, that free's up 130-150k a week... Then we add other players that come and go, I reckon brown is on the out so another 65-70k a week....
 
Ahh yes, because players never come and go and we just stock pile even if they're not playing? If and I say IF, scholes retires, the club doesn't renew Hargreaves contract or he goes on to a pay as you play deal, that free's up 130-150k a week... Then we add other players that come and go, I reckon brown is on the out so another 65-70k a week....

That's not how wages work, though. 250k a week would shatter the club's payscale, and would have an impact on how much other players at the club would expect to get.

On the whole "buy young or in their prime" debate - it's not one size fits all. We like to develop players from a young age, but we also like players with experience. If Fergie can sign a midfielder that he knows can dictate from the centre, whilst also having won a european cup and played in world cup final, still only 26 and going for £25m, he's going to snap them up. Assuming the player wants to come, of course. You can't sign a 20 year old and expect them to do what Scholes does for us, he's been there and done it all, a club legend. Sneijder could, for a good while yet.

What GCHQ says might be important, though. England does have limited wage power compared to Italy and Spain. Hopefully, though, the club's stature and Fergie would count even greater in our favour.

Not saying we're going to sign him at all, of course, but it'd be brilliant if we did.
 
Ahh yes, because players never come and go and we just stock pile even if they're not playing? If and I say IF, scholes retires, the club doesn't renew Hargreaves contract or he goes on to a pay as you play deal, that free's up 130-150k a week... Then we add other players that come and go, I reckon brown is on the out so another 65-70k a week....

But that doesn't take into consideration other players coming in.

The wages could be a huge stumbling block
 
Ahh yes, because players never come and go and we just stock pile even if they're not playing? If and I say IF, scholes retires, the club doesn't renew Hargreaves contract or he goes on to a pay as you play deal, that free's up 130-150k a week... Then we add other players that come and go, I reckon brown is on the out so another 65-70k a week....

It doesn't work like that. You don't offload 4-5 senior players to facilitate the signing of one player. How does that fit with Fergie's desire to have a deep squad that can compete on all fronts? It doesn't make any sense. You'd weaken the squad and then be left looking incredibly stupid if the one player you did sign was unavailable for a few months through injury.

We won't be signing Sneijder.
 
Forget it. With the weakness of the pound against the euro and the UK's 50p top rate of tax, I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest that we'd have to offer him in the region of 250k per week in order to match his take home pay at Inter. That would be an additional £50m over a four year contract and would be the type of agreement which would see us go over the club's self-imposed 50% wages to turnover limit.

Not going to happen.

I'm not sure those numbers stack up, please explain.
 
It doesn't work like that. You don't offload 4-5 senior players to facilitate the signing of one player. How does that fit with Fergie's desire to have a deep squad that can compete on all fronts? It doesn't make any sense. You'd weaken the squad and then be left looking incredibly stupid if the one player you did sign was unavailable for a few months through injury.

We won't be signing Sneijder.

How exactly is it weakening the squad? Brown is fit, rarely plays, Hargreaves hasn't played for 2 and a bit years, Scholes is probably retiring... How exactly are we losing 3-4 players for one signing? We then have a keeper coming in that will be on less then VDS... The side isn't weakening for the sake of facilitating one player, its evolving to encompass new players.

Brown: has a replacement.
Hargreaves: doesn't have a replacement, but it wouldn't be out of the norm to bring a young player up given that anything would be an improvement over his contribution for 2 and a bit years.
Scholes: Needs to be replaced if he is indeed retiring
VDS: Replacement on the cards
PIG: already replaced

There's 300k in players take 50-75k away for a replacement keeper, and you have nearly 75-85% of your proposed wages but even then I'm sure there are ways around the taxing issue. Whats stop Mr. Sneijder for example to say he lives in Spain, and lives in a club provided house when playing for United? F1 drivers "live" in Switzerland yet work for British owned companies and are not required to pay the full english tax percentage, only in their country of choice.

In regards to player matching clause, whats stopping United from paying sponsors to pay the players? I believe this is common practice in salary capped competitions. This isn't just about United of course but any club....

Fergie will buy whoever he likes regardless of what you believe. If he says this player will be key to success then they'll buy that player based on the belief that by not doing so it will be detrimental to potential future success. He won't have a blank check, but hands will not be tied for potential signings either.
 
We just wouldn't pay him 250k a week, that's the long and short of it. He'd have to take a pay cut.
 
That's not how wages work, though. 250k a week would shatter the club's payscale, and would have an impact on how much other players at the club would expect to get.

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We just wouldn't pay him 250k a week, that's the long and short of it. He'd have to take a pay cut.
doesn't Rooney make over the 200k mark?

it's so funny how you're so firm on this stance, as if you're an executive of the club who has final say in the matter. If that's what it takes to get him and SAF wants him, he's going to get 250k a week.
 
doesn't Rooney make over the 200k mark?

it's so funny how you're so firm on this stance, as if you're an executive of the club who has final say in the matter. If that's what it takes to get him and SAF wants him, he's going to get 250k a week.

I thought the reports of Rooney getting that much turned out to be bollards?

You don't think a new player coming in and getting far more than all others at the club would cause a bit of a stink? All so that we could match a player's net salary from a club in a country with lower tax rates and a stronger currency?

fecking hell I feel like a right muppet here, arguing about the wage of a player who's not likely to join...and I thought I was being sensible earlier too.
 
I thought the reports of Rooney getting that much turned out to be bollards?

You don't think a new player coming in and getting far more than all others at the club would cause a bit of a stink? All so that we could match a player's net salary from a club in a country with lower tax rates and a stronger currency?

fecking hell I feel like a right muppet here, arguing about the wage of a player who's not likely to join...and I thought I was being sensible earlier too.
I'm not sure about Rooney

I'm not trying to start a fight or anything, it was just funny how strongly you felt about the issue. In regards to the rest of the team, football is a business. They're all grown men. The team would just have to deal with it if that's what it really took.
 
Forget it. With the weakness of the pound against the euro and the UK's 50p top rate of tax, I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest that we'd have to offer him in the region of 250k per week in order to match his take home pay at Inter. That would be an additional £50m over a four year contract and would be the type of agreement which would see us go over the club's self-imposed 50% wages to turnover limit.

Not going to happen.

:lol: you think top footballers are paying standard rates of tax?
 
I'm not sure about Rooney

I'm not trying to start a fight or anything, it was just funny how strongly you felt about the issue. In regards to the rest of the team, football is a business. They're all grown men. The team would just have to deal with it if that's what it really took.

:lol: I know, just realised what I was arguing about and had to strongly consider what I was doing.

It would just be unprecedented at the club as far as I know, hence my severe skepticism.
 
Are people really suggesting he is to old? The reason we have been so successful over the years is because we have created the perfect mix of youth and experience, I am sure people just want us to turn into another Arsenal.
 
According to the Dutch Newspaper "De Telegraaf" we spoke to the Sneijder's camp two weeks ago, so this is probably where the Dailyfail's report came

MANCHESTER - Coach Alex Ferguson wants a serious attempt to loosen Wesley Sneijder at Internazionale. The Scottish coach sees the 27-year-old successor to the Orange-international Paul Scholes. United has 30 million euros for Sneijder.

The English club two weeks ago has been informal contact with the camp Sneijder. The arrival of the Dutch financial firm will basher, because in addition to his transfer fee is also a gross salary of 40 million euros for four seasons come. The total package would amount to approximately 70 million euros coming.
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Ferguson, who has a couple of years fan of Sneijder, becomes obsessed with a player who is used to winning in the Champions League and proved that he reaches the top a winner. Sneijder had recently been know to have a good time in Italy, but it's always been a dream of his, when one of the top clubs in the Premier League play.

Here's the link:
Ferguson wil Sneijder - Voetbal | Het laatste voetbalnieuws leest u op Telesport.nl van De Telegraaf [Voetbal]
 
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