Wesley Sneijder

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He's a one half player, good technically but soft to play midfield. Like his countryman that plays for Spurs. Not someone I'd like at Utd to play even in the occasional mid 3. We need a more swashbuckling player even if he's less technical! Someone that can drive the team. Carrick and Fletcher'll be fine as the other 2. In the Essien or Fabregas mould.
 
Ah cmon, he's soft for the midfield. Someone that doesn't want to deal with the centre halves playing up front nor get into the gritty tackles in midfield. Lampard's made that position popular tbh.
 
He's awesome in that free role off the striker/tip of the 3 man midfield, splits open defences with his vision and passes. He's got a great shot as well. You didn't make much of his performances in Europe and the World Cup then?
 
No, I get what you're saying. And he has been effective of late. I'm just saying for Utd, we don't want him to effect Nani or Valencia deeper down the flanks. We'd rather want the mid 3 to rotate on defensive duties and support the attackers.

Maybe it's just me. I'm having a hard time dealing with the transformation from 2 up front and 4 in mid to 3 and 3. And just hoping that we don't end up with one-half players just for the sake of it!
 
For Inter he generally was told to stick on the opposition holding midfielder when his team didn't have the ball, and generally had as much defensive responsibility as Rooney would do for England or Berbatov for us last year, I thought. Not what I'd call part of a midfield three, he was in another line of his own.

And for Holland I thought his general play and creative play was good but not great, and he suffered from the added defensive responsibility a lot.
 
Brwned said:
For Inter he generally was told to stick on the opposition holding midfielder when his team didn't have the ball, and generally had as much defensive responsibility as Rooney would do for England or Berbatov for us last year, I thought. Not what I'd call part of a midfield three, he was in another line of his own.
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Exactly. With Sneijder it would be more of a 4231 than a 433, which IMO would be a good thing. That's what we more normally played in 06/07 and 07/08, and it gave us a better balance than the 433 we've been generally using in the last year or two.

The problem with Sneijder is that he is really only suited to that formation. VDV is doing fairly well out wide for Spurs in a 442, but I don't think Sneijder is quite as versatile.
 
If we get Sneijder I would be pleasantly surprised. He is a magnificent player but I doubt that the club is keen to spend 30m on a 27yr old player. (Don't mention Berba he came before the 'value' strategy).
 
If Man Utd were offerd Sneijder why would we say no? the only reason would be that we cant afford him.
 
zub2007 said:
If Man Utd were offerd Sneijder why would we say no? the only reason would be that we cant afford him.
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The two major stumbling blocks will be his salary and the fee. After Berba's signing the club had stated that it will never spend alot of dosh on anyone over 25 yrs of age.
 
devilish said:
The two major stumbling blocks will be his salary and the fee. After Berba's signing the club had stated that it will never spend alot of dosh on anyone over 25 yrs of age.
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I dont think age will be a factor here. He's 10 years younger than Scholes who still does the business.

Signing Sneijder would be a MAJOR coup. The highest profile player we've signed in years.

I doubt it very much mind. I dont think we would pay what Inter would want for him.
 
MUFC1902 said:
Why are we always linked to these players a year after they were available for relatively little and end up paying three times as much to get them?
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Because United are always linked to in form players.
 
He's a good player but he isn't versatile enough to fit into our style of play IMO. We'd have to base our tactics, formation, and selection on fitting him into the team.

Sneijder is very much a player who relies on being given a free role behind a striker(s) in order to get the best out of him. He's too loose in his defensive duties to play CM consistently, and isn't quick enough or adaptable enough to play wide.

We'd have to play 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-1-2 to get the best out of Sneijder, the problem comes when those formations leave us either bare up top or lacking in width.

He'd have been worth a punt at £13m last summer, but to get him now for £30-40m would be a gamble too far IMO. That's why he's not OT bound.

I wouldn't be surprised if Inter sold him to somebody else though, the potential of Coutinho and the other impressive attacking options they have would probably make the idea of a vast profit on him rathar than giving him the contract he wants an appealing prospect for Moratti and the money men at Inter.
 
WireRed said:
He's a good player but he isn't versatile enough to fit into our style of play IMO. We'd have to base our tactics, formation, and selection on fitting him into the team.

Sneijder is very much a player who relies on being given a free role behind a striker(s) in order to get the best out of him. He's too loose in his defensive duties to play CM consistently, and isn't quick enough or adaptable enough to play wide.

We'd have to play 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-1-2 to get the best out of Sneijder, the problem comes when those formations leave us either bare up top or lacking in width.

He'd have been worth a punt at £13m last summer, but to get him now for £30-40m would be a gamble too far IMO. That's why he's not OT bound.

I wouldn't be surprised if Inter sold him to somebody else though, the potential of Coutinho and the other impressive attacking options they have would probably make the idea of a vast profit on him rathar than giving him the contract he wants an appealing prospect for Moratti and the money men at Inter.
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Even assuming Sneijder can't play in a 4-4-2, what's wrong with playing 4-2-3-1? Its worked brilliantly for us in the past, and Rooney has demonstrated that he can play upfront on his own.
 
Rate him very highly but we would need to spend too much money to get him now. Still can't get over the fact that Spurs got van der Vaart for such little money. Both players are excellent and would do the job at any club. Already a thread started on Afelay, he would be a good buy if we went Dutch.
 
‘I think he will renew his contract this week,’ Inter president Massimo Moratti said of his 26-year-old star. 'Negotiations have reached a good stage.'

The Dutch playmaker had been linked with a move away from the San Siro, with Manchester United and Chelsea emerging as potential suitors - the former as they attempt to match the big-spending of the Premier League champions and their local rivals, Manchester City.

Manchester United have also been linked with much-fancied striker Edin Dzeko, though the pair would not be made available at a cheap rate.
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kietotheworld said:
Even assuming Sneijder can't play in a 4-4-2, what's wrong with playing 4-2-3-1? Its worked brilliantly for us in the past, and Rooney has demonstrated that he can play upfront on his own.
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It would be good to have a choice of options.

I think Sneijder could play wide in a 442, given a free roaming role. Against some teams then possibly he could play in a central midfield 2, but it's not ideal.

I think Sneijder would obviously be a fantastic signing but he isn't the answer to our CM problems that people go on about. A player who is happiest in an orthodox midfield role is surely the priority once Scholes retires.
 
kietotheworld said:
Even assuming Sneijder can't play in a 4-4-2, what's wrong with playing 4-2-3-1? Its worked brilliantly for us in the past, and Rooney has demonstrated that he can play upfront on his own.
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Nothing is wrong with playing that formation when it suits, I just wouldn't want to see it on a regular basis which is probably what would happen if we got Sneijder as to get the best out of him, you have to adapt your system accordingly.
 
MUFC1902 said:
Why are we always linked to these players a year after they were available for relatively little and end up paying three times as much to get them?
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Rowem said:
Because United are always linked to in form players.
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Basically as soon as a player is playing particularly well the papers start linking various clubs with them, United are favourites for this sort of thing.

Gareth Bale has jumped up in popularity with the papers since his hat trick the other day. Same will happen if anyone else gets a hat trick, or has a stunning performance against major opposition.

Don't assume United are interested in the player or actually have any interest in buying them....it's purely entertainment value on the part of the newspapers.
 
I can't see United spending 30m and give a big salary to Sneijder when they can get Afellay on cheap.
 
devilish said:
If we get Sneijder I would be pleasantly surprised. He is a magnificent player but I doubt that the club is keen to spend 30m on a 27yr old player. (Don't mention Berba he came before the 'value' strategy).
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I'd be surprised if we did go for him, but despite being 27 he's the kind of player who could easily stay at the top of the game for quite a long time to come, like Scholes.
 
Rowem said:
It would be good to have a choice of options.

I think Sneijder could play wide in a 442, given a free roaming role. Against some teams then possibly he could play in a central midfield 2, but it's not ideal.

I think Sneijder would obviously be a fantastic signing but he isn't the answer to our CM problems that people go on about. A player who is happiest in an orthodox midfield role is surely the priority once Scholes retires.
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I'd disagree - your big problem is invention in midfield whether from CM or AM. It's getting more difficult to be a playmaker from CM (see Fabregas and Xavi move further up)
 
Red Pavan said:
8 years of service if he decides to come here, would be perfect.
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Especially considering our emerging candidates for the position...

SAF's recent comments about Cleverley, the continued recovery of Anderson, and the promise of Morrison and Eikrem, all lead me to the conclusion that if we invest in the midfield it will be for an established player like Sneijder. At 26, his age make him, in my mind, a more likely target than Afella.y
 
Inter Milan president Massimo Moratti has confirmed that the reigning European champions would need to sell players in order to conduct business in the transfer market.

The club have recently been linked with renewed interest in Barcelona superstar Lionel Messi following the tongue-in-cheek comments of Moratti and the slightly more serious remarks of chief executive Ernesto Paolillo.

It was also revealed by Paolillo earlier in October that Rafa Benitez's Inter plan to sign two players in the January transfer window, but that they would also need to allow two of their current squad members to leave.

And Moratti has reiterated that the Serie A title holders will need to raise funds through sales if they are to be able to make offers to other clubs.

He told Italian media with regards to the transfer market: "I don't know if we will do something. We are looking around.

"But to buy we must sell. We will see if we are able to do both of these things."

Moratti has also been unable to resist another comment regarding Messi, who said on Tuesday that he was happy at Barcelona but that the future was never certain.

"Everything will be a joke, maybe," said Moratti. "Anyway, we have time. Messi said never say never and he speaks the truth."
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More confirmation that Inter would not be impervious to a large bid for Sneijder.
 
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