Wesley Sneijder

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Rumbled. Nice work there, alastair.
 
Yep, that's about the size of it and it'll probably be someone whose name hasn't been mentioned in the press or on the caf. But I still think that Fergie has high hopes for Anderson now he can step out of Scholes' shadow. I'm not saying he's able to replace Scholes - nobody can - but it's time some seriously responsibility was given to Anderson. I didn't used to be a fan but during the last quarter of last season, he started to come good and once he'd scored a few goals, you could see the confidence in his play.
I agree with this. IMO I'm beginning to think we are more likely to sign someone who can cover or be competition for Fletcher and Carrick than a proper Scholes type replacement.
 
I really hope city don't get sneijder, their squad will almost be as good as ours if they manage to get him and a quality defender.
 
I really hope city don't get sneijder, their squad will almost be as good as ours if they manage to get him and a quality defender.

One story, no quotes. I would expect the pessimists to jump right on it though.
 
I really hope city don't get sneijder, their squad will almost be as good as ours if they manage to get him and a quality defender.

In individual talent they would be close, their defense isn't as good as ours despite our defenses young age and their striker force isn't a patch on ours if Tevez leaves, but they definately have a better midfield. The sqaud as a whole though doesn't have the same all round balance as ours though. We have a squad of very adaptable players.
 
I agree with this. IMO I'm beginning to think we are more likely to sign someone who can cover or be competition for Fletcher and Carrick than a proper Scholes type replacement.

I'm worried about Fletcher though. This virus thing is really bad news and we could be without him for the first couple of months of the season. Do you think Cleverley will have a role to play in the 1st team this season?
 
One story, no quotes. I would expect the pessimists to jump right on it though.

It makes sense when inter want Tevez, and also want to sell Sneijder for the highest price possible. City want world class players and possibly want to stop us getting them aswell.

The only thing is that sneijder probably doesn't want to go to city.

I really want Sneijder at this club, but its seeming less and less likely. I think we will sign a centre mid, but not one of the big three were after. Hopefully we can find another gem, and also pogba could maybe make the step up, one thing I certain though is that our midfield compared to our rivals is weak.
 
In individual talent they would be close, their defense isn't as good as ours despite our defenses young age and their striker force isn't a patch on ours if Tevez leaves, but they definately have a better midfield. The sqaud as a whole though doesn't have the same all round balance as ours though. We have a squad of very adaptable players.

I don't think city will finish ahead of us, I just think that their squad is almost on par with ours, our squad is more well - drilled and balanced, but cities squad is only going to get better these next years and players like Sneijder are going to realise that. We need a top CM to do well in all competitions this year, as that area of our squad is weak.
 
I'm worried about Fletcher though. This virus thing is really bad news and we could be without him for the first couple of months of the season. Do you think Cleverley will have a role to play in the 1st team this season?
I feel He does. He is most likely going to help Giggs and Anderson with attacking midfield duties over the course of the season. I don't know though if he has the combative qualities to compensate for a missing Fletcher. That is why like you the current Fletcher situation worries me. For with Fletcher out Carrick is our only other natural defensive midfield player with the untested defender Jones as potential cover. That's shaky ground to be on IMO.
 
Palermo close to selling Pastore - FourFourTwo



Could have something to do with Sneijder moving.

It quite clearly does. They want a replacement. Unless they plan on playing Sneijder in the centre of a midfield four with Pastore in the hole behind the 2 forwards, I can't see the logic in the both in a 3-4-3. Although having them both operate behind Et'o, shit, that would rule.
 
Palermo close to selling Pastore - FourFourTwo



Could have something to do with Sneijder moving.

Full quote from ESPN:

"I heard from another great club on Monday, a European one and not an Italian side," Zamparini told Radio Radio. "They are an important European outfit. I spoke to their sporting director and I told them to talk to the player's agent.

The person with whom I talked to asked me to lower Pastore's price from €50 million to €45 million. I'm only accepting cash though and no player exchanges.

"Roma need to hurry up if they want him as I think the situation will be resolved in the next ten days. I've not heard from anyone at Roma, though, even if it would be nice if Pastore did continue to play his football in Italy."

He has done this in the past -- I don't think there's been a bid, he's just inviting Roma and possibly Inter to bid for Pastore.
 
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He has done this in the past -- I don't think there's been a bid, he's just inviting Roma and possibly Inter to bid for Pastore.

That fact he referred to them as. Sporting Director would mean it's not an English side as that set up isn't common here. No German club is going to spend that. if he's not lying, which is the main possibility, then it could be Malaga. They wanted Sneijder, allegedly and have money to spunk.
 
I feel He does. He is most likely going to help Giggs and Anderson with attacking midfield duties over the course of the season. I don't know though if he has the combative qualities to compensate for a missing Fletcher. That is why like you the current Fletcher situation worries me. For with Fletcher out Carrick is our only other natural defensive midfield player with the untested defender Jones as potential cover. That's shaky ground to be on IMO.
I like how you capatalised the H on He. As if Cleverly going to be our new God. I like your thinking.
 
What encourages me is that we are searching for quality.
We are not, as many on here suggest, just searching for players like Parker who would probably strenghten our squad as a whole but not our first XI.

I'd rather we gave our youth a chance than sign someone who hasnt got the qualitiy to significantly improve our CM.

But getting exactly that kind of player would be important, and Sneijder is.
 
Bargain for Inter. Money from a 27 year old Sneijder + €10m to get a 22 year old Pastore.

€45m for an unproven youngster like Pastore would be utter madness. Up there with the Carroll transfer.
 
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He has done this in the past -- I don't think there's been a bid, he's just inviting Roma and possibly Inter to bid for Pastore.

Zamparini is simply doing what Pozzo did in the last few weeks ie trying to get the best possible fee for his player. Btw...he s also one of the loudest mouths in italian football, if he was a manager he would be the italian version of harry redknapp :)
 
Why do some people act like being 27 means you're on your deathbed?! And overrated? :confused:
 
€45m for an unproven youngster like Pastore would be utter madness. Up there with the Carroll transfer.

He's hardly unproven.

Does that mean Sanchez and Aguero are madness too? Pastore has pretty much the same experience as them in terms of the stature of the club he plays for.

And eh, I'm preeeetty sure he'll go on to be a better player than Andy Carroll.

Why do some people act like being 27 means you're on your deathbed?! And overrated? :confused:

I didn't say he was too old, I said Pastore is 5 years younger and clearly going to be absolutely class, he pretty much already is. It's good business from Inter's point of view seeing as he would probably not even be on half the wages Sneijder is.

I don't want Sneijder purely because he won't fit in here, in my opinion anyway. others will argue.

But if you compare players and their comparative cost and ability, age will inevitably come into the equation. it's important in some aspects.
 
He's hardly unproven.

Does that mean Sanchez and Aguero are madness too? Pastore has pretty much the same experience as them in terms of the stature of the club he plays for.

Yes, it means precisely that.

Pastore might become a world-class player but there were tons of South American players in the past who looked good at small to medium clubs then got found out at the very best. He definitely hasn't done enough yet to justify such a transfer fee; and neither have Agüero and Sánchez.
 
Pastore has already said he wants to stay in Italy so we weren't really going to get him. Sneijder would be a quality signing imo and at 27 he's at his peak right now. And we as fans don't really need to care about resale value. If he's brilliant for his 5-7 years here then it would have been worth it.
 
Yes, it means precisely that.

Pastore might become a world-class player but there were tons of South American players in the past who looked good at small to medium clubs then got found out at the very best. He definitely hasn't done enough yet to justify such a transfer fee; and neither have Agüero and Sánchez.

Welcome to the modern transfer climate.

Those 3 are worth their money given the cost of players these days.

Sneijder at €40m is the one that's a crazy price.
 
Welcome to the modern transfer climate.

Those 3 are worth their money given the cost of players these days.

Sneijder at €40m is the one that's a crazy price.

I just can't see how can you say that. If Pastore is worth €45m, Sneijder is worth €60m. He actually won a CL trophy - and was kind of an important player in the side - and carried Holland all the way to the World Cup final.

Meanwhile, Pastore looked good for some periods of the last two seasons. At Palermo.
 
Ronaldo>>>>Sneijder. Stupid comparison, unless you are daft enough to rate Sneijder that highly.

EDIT: and yes, the way you go on I do think you overrate him or have been led to believe he is something that he isn't.

The stupid comparison is that they both play different positions. I doubt Ronaldo could play CM as well as Sneijder and Sneijder can't play Ronaldos role as well.
 
Ronaldo>>>>Sneijder. Stupid comparison, unless you are daft enough to rate Sneijder that highly.

EDIT: and yes, the way you go on I do think you overrate him or have been led to believe he is something that he isn't.

They don't play the same positions. Sneijder is among the best in the world in his position and was top 4-5 in the World just one year ago...ahead of C Ronaldo.
 
City, or Chelsea for Pastore. Especially as Mancini has talked about Pastore before and Palmero have claimed they rejeced a bid for Pastore by Chelsea a few weeks back.

He also says he's spoken to a Sporting director, we don't have one.
 
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