Were we happy to sell Beckham and van Nistelrooy to Madrid?

Beckham did engineered his move to madrid despite him claiming to be forced out. He had a new contract on the table for more than a year and while he was adamant he will sign, kept changing small details each time basically dragging the thing on. His wife was already in madrid visiting a few of the high end child care nursery/school type thing and securing a place for his kid around 10 months before the alice band incident. After taking more than a year to negotiate his contract with us, it took him minutes to sign his with Real despite losing 10's of millions each year. At United he gets to keep 100% of his outside sponsorship, at Real he split it with them 50/50. That's why Perez came out and said they got Becks for free. In fact they overtook us as the highest earning club.

Also Ronaldinho and Robben were already in the bag. Then Abramovich approached Kenyon to join Chelsea and Kenyon after agreeing, went back in to feck up the deals by re-negotiating for lower fees. At this point Chelsea went in for both players at asking price and offered higher wages. Robben agreed but Ronaldinho joined Barca instead as it was between United and Barca all along.

Have to say Real's way of signing players is much better than ours. Our method now seems to be just blindly announcing that we're interested in Muller/Neymar/Bales and willing to pay 100 millions.

Real's way is to tap them up 1 or 2 year before and whisper sweet nothings and wait for the player to be desperate for a move. Better yet he agitate for a move and burn bridges to drive down the price
 
Snow said:
Doesn't really answer my question. You're just trying to paint a picture to suit your agenda. You can also turn it around.

SAF kicked a boot at Beckham
He benched him for a forward
He openly disagreed with his lifestyle which was frankly none of his business as long as it didn't affect his performance.

It's all guess work anyways, All that I'm asking about are quotes from SAF that said different things than his book said years before it came out.
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And your reasons can also be turned around:

SAF kicked the boot at Beckham out of frustration that he was not performing his full duties in the match vs Arsenal.
SAF benched Beckham for Solskjaer in right midfield because his form was lower than it should be.
SAF believed that Beckham lost form because his focus was not primarily on the club, he was using up his precious energies on his celebrity lifestyle fuelled by his wife and his role as as England caption and on his ever growing personal brand 'DB7'.
 
sammsky1 said:
And your reasons can also be turned around:

SAF kicked the boot at Beckham out of frustration that he was not performing his full duties in the match vs Arsenal.
SAF benched Beckham for Solskjaer in right midfield because his form was lower than it should be.
SAF believed that Beckham lost form because his focus was not primarily on the club, he was using up his precious energies on his celebrity lifestyle fuelled by his wife and his role as as England caption and on his ever growing personal brand 'DB7'.
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Now you're just repeating what I was reversing.
 
RVN missed Beckham for his assists & when he left and became unsettled. Beckham was a constant headline front and back pages and Fergie knew what he had to do, although I think we really missed Beckham those first couple of years after he left, until CR7 came of age. Real have proven they can get big players out of big clubs time and time again, if there was ever an investigation in tapping up players down the years then they would have been shut down by now, but no one seems bothered nowadays. Beckham claims he left the club against his wishes and even at the end of his last season he didnt know he was leaving, for me thats bullshit he would have known where he was going and his ego/pride/PR couldn't take it, RVN would have known too before contact between the clubs what would happen. We were happy to sell, I would say so but I no doubt Real played a part bring it all along.
 
RedOldBoy said:
Incredible though how Ronaldo left to join a club that wasn't on our level at the time, and eventually millions after million spent they managed to build another great team.
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Great team? There's not much great about that Real Madrid team. They're a bunch of expensive payers assembled to try and form a team with no real significant style. It isn't a great team like some of ours, Barcelona or Ac Milan. In fact you look at it over the last 10 years and you can hardly identify a strongest team for a consistent period of time at all. Probably the reason why they only have 1 league victory. In the last 7
 
mariachi-19 said:
Great team? There's not much great about that Real Madrid team. They're a bunch of expensive payers assembled to try and form a team with no real significant style. It isn't a great team like some of ours, Barcelona or Ac Milan. In fact you look at it over the last 10 years and you can hardly identify a strongest team for a consistent period of time at all. Probably the reason why they only have 1 league victory. In the last 7
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What I meant is that they managed to bring together a lot of talented players. And yes they have won the league once because they were just individuals although the constant change of managers didn't help as well.
 
Ole's_toe_poke said:
We played the best football we've played in the last 10 years the season that Ruud left. How anyone can argue that we needed him is beyond me.
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RVN was one of our senior players and the deadliest striker in the world. Someone which such talent would have been a great asset especially in the CL.

RVN wasn't put in the transfer market because we didn't need him any more but because his attitude nosedived to unacceptable levels. A fully dedicated RVN would have remained at United for a couple more years which suggest that SAF believed that he still had a role in our team
 
Fergie always had the mentality that no one is bigger than the club and that's the reason why he got rid of beckham and RVN. Both players were disrupting the dressing room with thier attitudes and fergie removed them just as he would have done with Rooney had he remained.
 
Sigh ... why was it so with Ruud? I fecking love the guy, one of my favorite players at the time and still is. Fantastic striker he was and we're so desperate for someone of his ilk right now.
 
I've never been one to bother with football autobiographies but those little snippets alone are enough to make me curious. Very interesting.
 
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