We are an awfully coached team

Let’s be honest, if Rodgers didn’t have the Liverpool connection, we’d all have him here in an instant over Ole.
 
At home to fecking Brighton and all we can think to do is counter attack, with two sitting central midfielders against a team that doesnt play with central strikers.

How can anybody defend that?
 
Love Ole but our style of play is as bad as it has been with the last few managers. He has no trophies and we don't show real signs of progress. Why is there even talk of a new contract, mental!

You look at that starting 11 and it should be doing so much better. I'm usually the first to blame players, but when consistently they are almost all poor you really do need to look at the coaching. No patterns of play, terrible movement and slow to fall back into place.
 
Performances like this are our standard now, and apparently that means we should reward the man producing them with a new contract.
 
Brighton are better than us. Obviously we accumulate more points over a year because of depth and sheer quality of individuals. But Brighton, and many other lower teams are better balanced if judging by actual style of play and patterns or sense of identity. I do not know what we're doing. Ive watched football for 3 decades and am a very amateur tactician with an interest in that part of the game. I have no clue what our plan is.
 
We tried to talk about Potter and how he got his team to play better football than a lot of top teams including United but this kind of talk is too negative for the caf members these days.
 
Just shocking from both the players and Ole. Again, Ole’s tactics are nonexistent. Just get it to Rashford and hope he can dribble past 5 players and put it in the top corner or hope Bruno scores from 20 yards. Utterly useless performance so far. Can’t help but feel trying a different formation is needed to have some unpredictability.
 
Ideally I would like to see us go for Graham Potter. I doubt it will even be a possibility due to him not being a high profile manager, but this is the second time he is getting it completely spot on against us this season. I can't imagine what he would be able to do with our squad.
 
There is no pattern of no play. It is difficult to understand what we achieve to do with the way players position, run(if they run) and pass. I like Ole but can't see him succeeding here, he is not good enough. Only thing we are good at is playing on counter against big teams. That's it. Otherwise we are woeful.
 
We need to do something drastically different at HT because this game is only going one way at the moment.

Greenwood has most of his touches in our half or out against the touchline which is such a waste.

I’d consider matching Brighton up in a 5-3-2 and getting Greenwood into the CF position with Cavani.

Move Rashford to RWB and bring a CB on for AWB
 
Even if we turn tonight’s game vs Brighton around and win ugly 2-1 say (looks unlikely so far), people who keep biting whenever Ole is anything like criticised, need to start thinking about the bigger picture here.

Is this brand of football satisfactory? Are we being coached to defend crosses, overlap our full backs and have our front 3 players make runs off the ball. I just don’t see any patterns or improvement in our actual football time and time again I’m afraid.
 
I got laughed off the Caf for suggesting I’d rather have Potter than Ole as United manager. But, again, he’s schooling Ole on tactics, set up and passages of play. Brighton are well drilled and you can clearly see what they are trying to do with the ball. Imagine if they had better players - like United?
 
The Ole cabal scoffed when we put Potter’s name forward months ago as being a manager capable of doing a better job than Solskjaer and I hope every single one of them are watching what’s unfolding tonight.

An utter embarrassment but not as embarrassing as the arrogant scoffing that went on by those obsessed with the mental notion that Solskjaer is doing as good a job here as anyone could possibly do.

Utter weirdos.
 
Utd just can't stop conceding the first goal (usually in the first attack also) against bottom of the table sides. Then it becomes an awful watch where Utd just can't create any decent chances. It has happened exactly like this so many times this season. I don't know if it is coaching or the players are just not good enough. I think the set up of the team is off. Seems that Utd let teams come on to them too much.
 
11101 said:
At home to fecking Brighton and all we can think to do is counter attack, with two sitting central midfielders against a team that doesnt play with central strikers.

How can anybody defend that?
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We're tired, man. Let us have a preseason or 8. We also need about £600,000,000,000 in transfers. And hopefully some easier teams to play against. Oh, and its so unfair that we've played during a global pandemic. Also, after all that, Ole has us in the top 4 which sees safe progression into the last 32 of the Europa league.
 
One thing I struggle to understand is if Ole is such a great man-manager why we see so many ball-less performances?

If he can't get good tactics right he should surely at least fire them up a little bit, no?
 
Sometimes you watch teams and you can tell after few minutes which elements of the game they have practiced recently, be it set pieces, build up, counter attack etc. It’s really months and months that I have no idea what our lads do in the training sessions. Looking clueless again.
 
It’s all well and good moaning and talking about being “awfully coached” but does anybody have a viable suggestion for what we could do differently?

Personally, I think we need a player like DCL. Wouldn’t be everybody’s favourite but I think a big physical presence like that would give us another dimension and force teams to think a bit differently.
 
Why does Rashford continue to stop and stand still when he gets the ball? It’s a bit weird.
 
Getting harder and harder to defend Ole as a coach, we've been consistently poor since January with an odd good performance here and there but mostly awful to watch.
 
pablo__p said:
One thing I struggle to understand is if Ole is such a great man-manager why we see so many ball-less performances?

If he can't get good tactics right he should surely at least fire them up a little bit, no?
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Hes so good that hes removed everything good out of Bruno too.
 
Lentwood said:
It’s all well and good moaning and talking about being “awfully coached” but does anybody have a viable suggestion for what we could do differently?

Personally, I think we need a player like DCL. Wouldn’t be everybody’s favourite but I think a big physical presence like that would give us another dimension and force teams to think a bit differently.
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Another Fellaini you mean?

Will we get Moyes back too for 100 crosses a match?
 
Potter's a good manager. I think if we swapped managers we'd be killing Brighton right now because he's shown he can get a team playing modern, progressive football with the bare minimum, so having a talented squad on top of his ability would just be the icing on the cake.
 
Yagami said:
Potter's a good manager. I think if we swapped managers we'd be killing Brighton right now because he's shown he can get a team playing modern, progressive football with the bare minimum, so having a talented squad on top of his ability would just be the icing on the cake.
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Also, we'd win because Ole would relegate this team of Brighton players.
 
Yagami said:
Potter's a good manager. I think if we swapped managers we'd be killing Brighton right now because he's shown he can get a team playing modern, progressive football with the bare minimum, so having a talented squad on top of his ability would just be the icing on the cake.
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I reckon every manager in the league has a system whether good or bad. What on earth is Oles? Are we trying to counter attack at home to Brighton?
 
Once the Glazers have gone and sold up, I’ll be able to watch this team legitimately. At the moment, this is not my club
 
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