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Physically, athletically and technically stands out as a lower standard than the players around him. Does not belong.
Just watching Ibra's comments about Rooney. Clearly incredibly well respected by his team-mates.
He's not exactly going to call him a fat useless Cnut on tv is he.
One assist. That pass to Lingard is not an assist.3 games, 1 goal, 2 assists.
He is Adolf Satan Putin and must be sold straight away to appease the caf match day threads.
Because he only had two options, right?
I must have imagined sarcastic recent posts claiming people write stuff like "He's the anti-Christ", "Worst performance of all time" etc etc. But yeah, you're all the unbiased voices of reason, and so on.Steve for crying out loud. The "defense" amounts to "yeah he's not been that bad, calm down and lets see how he goes after a couple of months.." hysterical and melodramatic. Pull the other chain, pal.
oh no...shoot him!One assist. That pass to Lingard is not an assist.
oh no...shoot him!
It was an assist whether you put it down as one or not.
He had a good game, not that hard to say. I know his levels have been absolutely dire as of late(the shit he was pulling in the Leicester game was below dire) however he did play well. His touch seemed to be back, his pace wont come back, however he still knows how goals are made during games and we all know that's what wins matches. .
He's not exactly going to call him a fat useless Cnut on tv is he.
I never said that he was fantastic, The point is the No10 is essentially a forward thinking midfielder, if we discount the charity shield then it still equates to him having a hand in 2 goals in 2 games. So what is the problem?Yeah but you should definitely not use it to back up your reasoning as to why he is effective. The way you state '3 games 1 goal 2 assists' as if that alone should shut everyone up when in fact 1 of the assists was a 5 yard midfield pass and the goal was the result of a mis-hit shot that landed to him a couple of metres away from goal, under no pressure what so ever. What has he done in these 3 games that any no10 in the league or even championship would not be able to do? And besides his general play is absolutely horrendous. Today it was average to be fair which for a lot of his sympathisers translates to 'fantastic'.
I never said that he was fantastic, The point is the No10 is essentially a forward thinking midfielder, if we discount the charity shield then it still equates to him having a hand in 2 goals in 2 games. So what is the problem?
People are too quick to point out the flaws in his games but seemingly can't be arsed to compliment the good aspects to his game, or his decent performances. I personally couldn't give a feck about the anti-Rooney brigade.
The best way I describe Rooney is serviceable. He may be capable of better performances than today, but they will be few and far between. Somewhere between today and Bournemouth will be par for course.
He didn't get in the way today as he did against Bournemouth. Was an okay cross for the goal, but Ibra did BEAST it.
I really feel he is holding us back from going up another gear. A 3 of Martial Mata Mkhitaryan with Rashford rotating in the front four could be amazing. Rooney as it stands doesn't have the ability to link up and interchange with the, much more capable, players around him at the moment.
However he will chip in with the odd goal and assist. This is enough to keep his fans happy and fight his corner. However I believe many have seen that, as a team, we are capable of much more given the players at our disposal.
I will repeat. A solid 6/10 performance today. Not much wrong, not much great either.
I never said that he was fantastic, The point is the No10 is essentially a forward thinking midfielder, if we discount the charity shield then it still equates to him having a hand in 2 goals in 2 games. So what is the problem?
People are too quick to point out the flaws in his games but seemingly can't be arsed to compliment the good aspects to his game, or his decent performances. I personally couldn't give a feck about the anti-Rooney brigade.
A forward thinker? Blimey, he turns his back towards goal, loses it, passes it side ways or backwards almost every time he receives the ball in a dangerous area. The only good things he has done in the last two were an easy goal and a good cross. There was a lot more he did wrong, so much wrong that a lot of people tend to focus on the whole game and his incompetence on the whole rather than a second or two of brilliance, if you can even call it that. Please tell me what else he has done to deserve compliments in those two games other than a good cross and a 5 yard finish?
Again is there really any forward in the league who wouldn't be able to put in a cross to Zlatan like today or finish 5 yards away from goal without any pressure?
if you think that finish was easy, you have clearly never played football in your life.A forward thinker? Blimey, he turns his back towards goal, loses it, passes it side ways or backwards almost every time he receives the ball in a dangerous area. The only good things he has done in the last two were an easy goal and a good cross. There was a lot more he did wrong, so much wrong that a lot of people tend to focus on the whole game and his incompetence on the whole rather than a second or two of brilliance, if you can even call it that. Please tell me what else he has done to deserve compliments in those two games other than a good cross and a 5 yard finish?
Again is there really any forward in the league who wouldn't be able to put in a cross to Zlatan like today or finish 5 yards away from goal without any pressure?
if you think that finish was easy, you have clearly never played football in your life.
It's Zlatan, if that was what he thought I wouldn't be surprised if he said it.
Champagne comedy. This thread in a nutshell.Great point mate. If theres one thing i want from our number 10 its interceptions. Not assists or goals!
Grasping here pal. Really grasping.
For the record guys Bailly HAS ZERO ASSISTS. Embarrassing stuff really...
I think it is quite telling that you ignored the rest of the post whilst picking out a little detail to argue with. Yeah, it was a good finish but it was gifted to him by a mis hit shot which was also the reason there was no defender there to put pressure on him. They were all over the place trying to block the shot at goal. Was quite easy for a professional football player in all fairness. Look at Zlatans goal today and the amount of pressure he had around him. Around the same distance, but there was a big difference in quality.
Typical Rooney sympathiser. Ignores all but one or two convenient to argue against points presented to them and then has a sly dig at the person with which they are arguing. Actually I used to play for Reading u13's mate and have been part of many football teams throughout my life. I don't care if you believe me or not.
No...
You misunderstand me friend. I am not a Rooney sympathiser in the slightest, I get equally as frustrated with him as the rest of you. I am however a United fan, a passionate one. And feel that sometimes, like tonight. That people don't give him any credit if he deserves it. He wasn't poor tonight. He was on sunday and he was in the charity shield, but not tonight.
As for keeping the ball or playing it backwards/sideways etc, that can sometimes be common sense, yes, we all love it when United attack with pace, but you simply cannot attack every second of every game. If Rooney gets the ball and has nothing on ahead of him, i am happy to see him play sideways or even backwards, i am happy to see us keep the ball and build an attack from behind....this goes for ANY player FYI, it's just that we happen to be discussing Rooney here.
Something i do sometimes think is underrated from Rooney is what he does off the ball when we are going forward. Tonight especially, he would lay one of those boring sideways passes and then run into the space that same sideways pass created, of course because he doesn't have the ball this often gets overlooked and discredited....again this extends to ANY player, yet we happen to be discussing Rooney here.
Zlatan was actually further out then rooney for his header tonight, but they were completely different goals (Zlatans was better FWIW) Rooney had a chance that he did well to finish, it wasn't easy and you fail to credit his movement that led him to be in that position in the first place. Zlatan tonight came from deeper and rose above 2 defenders and picked out the corner, it was a beautiful header from a beautiful cross. However i concede the fact that Southampton should have closed Rooney down a lot quicker.
It is a assist.One assist. That pass to Lingard is not an assist.