charlenefan
Far less insightful than the other Charley
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Not as bad as he was against Villa but certainly worse than mid week and he was meant to push on from that today
That stuck out like a sore thumb. He just does not have the dribbling ability and his pace is gone. Add to that his poor first touches and I wonder how on earth is LVG not seeing that.That moment when Mitrovic robbed him, jesus christ! And to think that he is supposed to be world class.
we could have a whole XI better than him for that wages. Just imagine that. OMGHe is on £300K a week, how on earth is that possible?
I'm still looking for the nutjobs who said he would score over 20 goals this season. All gone into hiding
I can't disagree, but I think that's just the way we're set up.Seems pretty uninspiring to me, both in terms of Rooney and the team's attacking intent as a whole.
The other players on similar wages are Messi and Ronaldo..I cry when I think that we dont even get half of what they give their teams..He is on £300K a week, how on earth is that possible?
I thought he was good during the first half, then anonymous during 30 minutes in the second, and a bit better towards the end. He served Mata with a superb chance (the pass was very good, if Mata had a bit of a right foot it would've been a great goal), had a goal disallowed harshly (wrongly, imo) and had a couple of other half chances.
So no, not excellent but a decent performance overall. And if people think he's our problem at the moment, they're bonkers.
"He was fine"
Yeah, no goals in almost 15 hours is totally fine. No bother Wayne, good shift.
Believe us , we dont see the funny part..This is actually quite sad..David Moyes, what were you thinking?!?300k a week, feck sake.
There was another instance in 80th minute I think. Lost the ball again in a very poor way.That stuck out like a sore thumb. He just does not have the dribbling ability and his pace is gone. Add to that his poor first touches and I wonder how on earth is LVG not seeing that.
we could have a whole XI better than him for that wages. Just imagine that. OMG
The funny thing is, when he was playing #10 and central midfield, the same people were saying he's better at #9.No more this crap 'oh he looks better in the #10' he's not good enough, simple as that. Not good enough for #9 or #10, its time we move on. Mata #10, Hernandez/Fellaini #9
I've said this before, I think the 'bad touch' thing isn't true in the sense he does have some bad touches, but it's not a generality. It's just a stupid bandwagon people have jumped on. He had one truly bad touch today which cost us. He also has some fantastic touches.He's a big part of it. Bad first touch, no movement in dangerous areas and he made next to nothing of any ball he got in the box aside from that early chance.
That makes life a lot tougher for the creative players around him.
I have a feeling it's not so easy for LVG to rattle the Rooney situation - think there's a lot of politics involved and LVG doesn't have any credits in the bank yet unlike Sir Alex. Rightly or wrongly, I'm beginning to believe something is in Rooney's contract that ensures he starts or we pay some penalty. It sounds crazy to my ears but it doesn't make any sense. LVG surely knows Rooney is not good enough - he can see that, but his hands may be tied.What annoys me is Van Gaal seemed content to ship out RVP/Falcao and not bring in anyone else on the back of Rooney telling him he'll score a ton of goals if played as the striker. If you're going to claim that you better back it up.
300k a week should get you an Aguero/Hazard/Suarez level player.
Yes..there have been a few though over the years..Cleverley and Gibson come to mind.It's not often on the caf we see such a massive consensus regarding a player. Really Wayne has let down a lot of fans.
Who was it that gave him that contract? SAF or Moyes? Looking like a terrible decision now. And I don't think he was playing particularly amazingly at the time either.300k a week, feck sake.
Yes..there have been a few though over the years..Cleverley and Gibson come to mind.
Honestly wouldn't bother, people have short memories and the last thing they will reference is the one bad touch or bad pass. He was good today and you and I can both agree the attack has problems that don't just involve Rooney.I've said this before, I think the 'bad touch' thing isn't true in the sense he does have some bad touches, but it's not a generality. It's just a stupid bandwagon people have jumped on. He had one truly bad touch today which cost us. He also has some fantastic touches.
Don't agree about the movement in dangerous areas, he was found twice in dangerous areas (first half when his shot was straight at Krul, second half when he controlled it with his chest and got a countered shot off) mainly due to his good movement. Also, the times we went through the wings, the cutbacks and crosses were very poor and were incapable of finding him unmarked of him in the box.
I'd say the creative players are making it as hard for him as he is for them, at the very least.
He was a United fan though, and had been for all his life..For some players without that relationship, that wont happen.Neville retired when he was more hindrance than help time for Rooney to do the same
Yes..there have been a few though over the years..Cleverley and Gibson come to mind.
I thought he was good during the first half, then anonymous during 30 minutes in the second, and a bit better towards the end. He served Mata with a superb chance (the pass was very good, if Mata had a bit of a right foot it would've been a great goal), had a goal disallowed harshly (wrongly, imo) and had a couple of other half chances.
So no, not excellent but a decent performance overall. And if people think he's our problem at the moment, they're bonkers.
Who was it that gave him that contract? SAF or Moyes? Looking like a terrible decision now. And I don't think he was playing particularly amazingly at the time either.
Really hope we sign a striker. Either he replaces Rooney who sits on the bench or Rooney works hard and sorts himself out to perform at the required level a club like United needs.
Agreed. My only pet pieve with him this game was how slow he is..I've said this before, I think the 'bad touch' thing isn't true in the sense he does have some bad touches, but it's not a generality. It's just a stupid bandwagon people have jumped on. He had one truly bad touch today which cost us. He also has some fantastic touches.
Don't agree about the movement in dangerous areas, he was found twice in dangerous areas (first half when his shot was straight at Krul, second half when he controlled it with his chest and got a countered shot off) mainly due to his good movement. Also, the times we went through the wings, the cutbacks and crosses were very poor and were incapable of finding him unmarked of him in the box.
I'd say the creative players are making it as hard for him as he is for them, at the very least.
Oh, yes..I think even the ones defending him now are doing it more in defense of him and not his perfomances..you cant watch him play and come to any different conclusion.Sorry, I meant when it concerns such an important player.
Fergie threw him under the bus before he left, talked about him wanting to leave and handing in a transfer request. Moyes went down on both knees and did everything possible to keep him here, and Woodward made it happen.Who was it that gave him that contract? SAF or Moyes?
Moyes obviously.
Fergie wanted him gone.
Van Gaal needs to start dropping him. I rather play Fellaini upfront currently than him.
Fergie threw him under the bus before he left, talked about him wanting to leave and handing in a transfer request. Moyes went down on both knees and did everything possible to keep him here, and Woodward made it happen.
Straight swap for John Stones and we'll pay 50% of his salary for a season.
He's useless and him being our "unsubbale" captain is making the team struggle as a whole. He's hindering us big time.
Yep, not untrue, he seemed much more dynamic towards the end though, funnily enough. Mata annoys me from this point of view also, so slow.Agreed. My only pet pieve with him this game was how slow he is..