Of course. It was ridiculous when people were suggesting if he was dropped we'd suddenly improve. He was far from the only cause, he just simply didn't help matters.
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Of course. It was ridiculous when people were suggesting if he was dropped we'd suddenly improve. He was far from the only cause, he just simply didn't help matters.
He was never the whole problem, far from it. But he is not the answer either. We need a better player.
Defend like a pro, create chances, hold everybody accountable when we got down and maybe the most important thing: play for the crest..
No one said otherwise. There's a lot of problems with this team, starting with the manager.
Doesn't change the fact that he is past it though. And his performances have been woeful.
yep. although reading the amount of idiots saying he was the main problem was unreal.
2 defeats and a 0-0 in the biggest historical home banker we've had in premier history
a lot, of people said otherwise. This place can be very foolish, especially after bad displays
Things have played out well for him by being absent for our CL exit and some lacklustre results, I would hope as captain he would return and lift the squad because we really need somebody to do that.
I'm not saying they haven't, but at the same time, I'm basically 99% sure that he would look a lot better under a manager who played a more counter attacking style, as would the rest of our attack. He's just not suited to Van Gaal's style at all, and it's making him look a lot worse then he probably is.
When was the last time he did all that then?
Usually too busy puffing his guts up after 5 minutes or chasing his first touch.
Absolutely. Since LVG took over not a single striker has looked competent in our system. Doesn't change the fact that Rooney should still be gone in the summer though.
I'm certain we've been a far better attacking side since Rooney's been out. We created chances again today, vs Wolfsburg, and vs West Ham. We've gone to shit at the other end of the pitch, but lets not pretend this loss of form is anything to do with Rooney.
We absolutely have been. Unfortunately it's not enough but there's no denying we look better (at least more dangerous) without him.
But again, it's not enough.
Rooneys still finished.
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Rooney's defending is so fecking under-rated here.. Sick and tired of hearing how all the fault always goes to him(of course he has to take some, because his level should be carrying us to win trophys) and some others are never put to the sword. The simple fact is we are a better side with #10 playing.
Obviously yes. I was surprised to see so many being happy that he is out because in the end it's never going to help Man Utd to have less players available.
You lot a probably the same people that booed Fellaini in pre-season.. Maybe call Dortmund if Kagawa is for sale at 25m..?
I try to be supportive of underperforming players as much as anyone, but Rooney has just been woeful this season. He's made one assist in 30 Premier league games.
With Fellaini getting a goal that now ties him with Rooney on 2 goals in the league. Fellaini has however managed this playing about 440 minutes wheres Rooney has played 1048.
Fellaini for me is an example of a player who gets far too much stick unfairly, Rooney on the other hand is a player who should be sat on the bench until his level of performance improves.
Our Under 21's losing a league game doesn't alter the fact Rooney is finished, he's not the whole problem, but him and LvG between them are the bulk of it and should both move on down the road.
Rooney's work without the ball is getting no love and that's the main reason I keep bringing this up.. Of course he needs to produce more but feck me, that second goal isn't happening if he's the in the box. Defending set-pieces cost us a UCL spot and is putting our title challenge in jeopardy..
Whats telling is, Im sure we are creating more chances without him and more importantly, no one is saying 'if Rooney was playing we would have won'
His work without the ball as a striker/forward is to link-up well with other players by making runs and finding space. So far this season, he has been shocking at both.
Him falling back to the half-way line to knock 5-yard passes sideways, bumping into BFS half the time, then making his way to left-back position against PSV is not something to celebrate or admire. It's an incredibly immature and ill-disciplined way to conduct yourself when you're supposed to be a forward on the pitch to score goals. He's a headless chicken, there's no method to the madness when he does that and the fact he's still doing it at 30 years of age is testament to his lack of intelligence (football intelligence I mean). That lack of intelligence is why the suggestions he could drop deep in his later years and become a Giggs/Scholes figure is so laughable, it's frankly frightening how some people would consider that.
And as for your set-pieces stuff. Well then we might as well just play Fellaini up top each match from now on then.
Rooney remains our best outfield player.
Yes, he is not the fantastic young Rooney of years past. But he is still much better than anyone else we have.
Until we get better players and a manager who can utilize them... it is foolish to blame Rooney for our problems.
Yes, he is not the fantastic young Rooney of years past. But he is still much better than anyone else we have.
Until we get better players and a manager who can utilize them... it is foolish to blame Rooney for our problems.
News flash. You're high. Go recover.
That is just blatantly not true. Either you're trolling or you haven't seen Rooney play for the last few seasons.
nick, this isn't 2004! In the words of Sam Johnstone, 'your drunk'.
Rooney being out the team is not the problem, his actual replacement (herrera) being out is. I honestly think if Herrera was playing we would be doing better.
Whilst were not playing well, Rooney was just terrible. He was playing like a player past it, with his passing and first touch. Its one thing if were playing terrible which is not helping him, but he was not helping us either.
Whilst were not playing well, Rooney was just terrible. He was playing like a player past it, with his passing and first touch. Its one thing if were playing terrible which is not helping him, but he was not helping us either.
Play for the crest? The one he held for ransom twice now? Yea, right. Loyalty.
That'll be the same Wayne Rooney who removed every trace of Manchester United imagery from his website and his Facebook account when he had his dispute with SAF.
Spot on.
Rooney has been terrible this season.
Average last season.
The best player in the Moyes season.
Terrible the year before. Excellent in the second half of the season before that.
I hate when people say he has been finished for 3 years.
Average last season.
The best player in the Moyes season.
Terrible the year before. Excellent in the second half of the season before that.
I hate when people say he has been finished for 3 years.
Best outfield player. De Gea was our best player that season.
He's certainly not been finished for three years, but 2011/2012 is the last brilliant season he had. The last season where you could've realistically ranked him as one of the best players in the Premier League.
He is nothing now-a-days, almost a 10 vs 11 every time he starts. When he's injured, we play Fellaini and Mata in his position. One is not the player you rely on to play the ball on the feet while the other will never grow into the position in this league. We needed Herrera, sadly he was injured too. Pereira, he didn't exist until Bournemouth.
We haven't won not because he was absent but because the competent replacements were not in contention.
We haven't won not because he was absent but because the competent replacements were not in contention.
Our problems were never down to one individual. If that weer the case we'd be doing well in attack and even his laughable peformances would have been masked to a small extent. We are poor in attack. There's no doubt about that. The issue with our attack is that it's being let down by individuals that aren't good enough (other than opinions on system etc). And Rooney is a big part of that. He isn't the only part but a very big one especially considering what he's being paid and him staring every single game he's fit unlike other problem parts like Fellaini.
Why do people always have to rewrite history when a player has been out for a while or playing in another position?
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