The claims are pretty serious, especially the UNICEF gala stuff, they surely must have some proof.
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What happen at the UNICEF gala?
I would take what they say with a pinch of salt, going through their twitter they seem to be very aggressive in their opinions. Calling Woodward an idiot, sharing his number and e-mail etc. Probably just bitter.
What thread? Looked in the Rooney thread and don't see any mention of him not being injured. Granted I'm falling asleep so I may of missed it.
Calling this up on the whole "oh you're bitter" thing
Don't care about the Rooney thing but, it seems to be a growing trend on here, that when someone doesn't like something, they are forever labelled as "bitter"
It's ridiculous and laughableNot saying anything against @Womp btw. Not having a go at you
Best look at RI's twitter. Quite bizarre how they are not backing down over it. Their choice of language is a bit much
We've all said about how poor Rooney's become and the buzzards have been circling for some time.
I think they've now landed and have started to rip and tear at flesh!
Will this toxic atmosphere stop Rooney from ever returning?
I think they've now landed and have started to rip and tear at flesh!
Will this toxic atmosphere stop Rooney from ever returning?
He'll be back soon enough, could well be his most important 3-4 months at the club in a long time for him though, as if his bad form continues then I'm pretty sure that will be that, and we'll do everything we can to move him on the summer.
That though won't be an easy thing to do, who will possibly want him in those wages? And btw there is no chance he'll go to China.
Has the club denied the rumours in any capacity? Directly or otherwise?
I haven't seen anything and that's what I find the most intriguing aspect here. As captain and the leading player/figure of their brand (through honorary title and ambassadorial duties over performance), it would be Rooney that offers the greatest damage to that image should his professional integrity be tarnished in any way. Letting these rumours persist (they've been shared onto other higher end media outlets too, not just forums and hearsay) and not nipping them in the bud goes against the standard PR practice and code for any company. I've not seen even a standard response detailing a (even possibly an obvious) ghost injury to mask these claims as a rebuttal.
I haven't seen anything and that's what I find the most intriguing aspect here. As captain and the leading player/figure of their brand (through honorary title and ambassadorial duties over performance), it would be Rooney that offers the greatest damage to that image should his professional integrity be tarnished in any way. Letting these rumours persist (they've been shared onto other higher end media outlets too, not just forums and hearsay) and not nipping them in the bud goes against the standard PR practice and code for any company. I've not seen even a standard response detailing a (even possibly an obvious) ghost injury to mask these claims as a rebuttal.
What happened at the UNICEF gala?
No. The club haven't made any comments. The journalists have refused to ask.
What are the claims then? Why exactly is he absent then?
Going to china at the age of 30 is an insultingly humiliating situation. If it's me i choose retirement.
They'll treat you like some kind of exotic panda and make you clap anr smile infront of the fans, who likes to see a guailo, a white walkers being tamed and performs funny battle dance as he can't actually do any real battle and probably features on some chinese erection medication
fecking humiliation i tell you
They'll treat you like some kind of exotic panda and make you clap anr smile infront of the fans, who likes to see a guailo, a white walkers being tamed and performs funny battle dance as he can't actually do any real battle and probably features on some chinese erection medication
fecking humiliation i tell you
No need to slag Rooney off. We know he might be reaching a point of no return. It's not like he's playing 'bad' on purpose. He's given us the best years of his life and if he moves on at some point, he'll have had plenty of great moments in a United shirt. He's done things we don't like but so do a lot of players. I like Wayne and I hope he can find that spark again but maybe United need something new at this point.
I want him gone so much so that I won't bat an eyelid if the Scousers waned him.
I said immediately that he wasn't injured. He needed to be dropped and they didn't want to deal with the shitstorm that would result. Rooney himself surely knows how bad he's been, they rewatch every game as a team so I'm sure it's blindingly obvious to everyone. He probably agreed to it cause none of them want to deal with the media fallout of LVG dropping his captain.
Not sure I buy that he's simply been dropped . . . there could be other things going on behind the scenes, but if it was all simply down to his form, then why not at least have him on the bench? I mean, what, Nick Powell is a better option?
And if they're too scared to put him on the bench because of some potential media 'shitstorm', then that is extremely weak management.
Hungrier, more energy, while we wait to sign a replacement in January.
Nick Powell's career at the top level is going to the dogs, precisely because he's said to lack the hunger and professionalism required to be an elite player.
Couldn't agree more. The most sensible thing would have been to drop him a few months ago due to poor form. Offically.
Then we have van Gaal hinting at something he doesn't want to say out loud, that we are nowhere near good enough (which Moyes said time and again). But he had loads of cash to rectify that and he's let go of a host of players, with Hernandez tearing it up in Germany and he's had time to build a team that should be a hell of a lot stronger than what we currently see going forward.
Nick Powell's career at the top level is going to the dogs, precisely because he's said to lack the hunger and professionalism required to be an elite player.
He has look much more determined since coming back from that injury.Joyce also said he's in greater shape than ever.
Re: him not being injured - was there not an image of him with a fairly long gash down his quad-region?* I seem to remember seeing a picture.
*Ignore. It was across his abs/side of his stomach. I'm losing it.
*Ignore. It was across his abs/side of his stomach. I'm losing it.
Where, in training? It was his first game for United since August 2014, and his first game for any club since December 2014.
Re: him not being injured - was there not an image of him with a fairly long gash down his quad-region?* I seem to remember seeing a picture.
*Ignore. It was across his abs/side of his stomach. I'm losing it.
That would certainly backup our claims that he's out with a heavy ankle injury.
The clue that he might actually be dropped for me is in LVG post Leicester comments. He said he was already planning to take Rooney off due to poor performance,when he got injured around the 55th minute. That's very early and shows LVG was already getting frustrated with his showings. LVG almost never takes Rooney off.
He might really be injured but LVG might also be in no rush to have him back.
He might really be injured but LVG might also be in no rush to have him back.
U21s matches.
From what he said it seemed like he was going to take off Martial if not for Rooney's injury.
Heh. I think he'll be back soon. Can't get rid of Wayne Rooney like this. It's too easy.
He also said he was thinking of taking Rooney off because he wasn't running in behind.
Which might be a slightly lower level than the champions league.
I think he's injured. But the club should have given more info about the nature of the injury and the period of recovery in order to avoid the rumours.
We're talking about how determined he looks isn't it?If he's lazy he'll be lazy whatever level he plays in.I'm not talking about how he looks like a world beater in U21s football or something.
Well, the captain has special privileges.Perhaps Wayne tried to sneak Valdes in?
Okay. But if the argument for having him on the bench ahead of Rooney is that he's looked more determined in youth football - after having played no senior football for a year - I think it's a weak one.
They said it's an ankle injury and heavier than first thought. We don't always give an ETA on each player, usually just when it's a standard injury with a predictable recovery time. Ankles are complicated, especially fat ones.
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