What a load of nonsense, if you looked at his forward passes stats you'd see that he's world class player!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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What a load of nonsense, if you looked at his forward passes stats you'd see that he's world class player!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is a very good post. Fully agreed.
The thing is I've noticed for several seasons that Rooney does not perform when he's too 'comfortable'. He becomes complacent - not deliberately imo - but it just happens. It's like he switches off once he doesn't have to fight for something anymore. It's just a part of his psychology.
What surprises me is that no one at the club seems to recognise this - it's so obvious. Giggs I don't believe has the know-how to recognise these things, but I would have thought someone else at the club would be able to better advise LVG?
For sure though, these 'privileges' aren't helping him.
I think the opposite. He looks to me like someone who is struggling to come to terms with his diminishing powers. He plays devoid of confidence, doubting the ability he still has, and as though he really isn't sure of his role anymore. Part of what made him a top footballer was his arrogance but that has ebbed away now.
The one thing you cannot level at Rooney is a perceived lack of effort. If anything he tries too hard to overcompensate for his failings.;
I think LVG is wary of killing Rooney too early, he is almost making him force him out the team, so that he doesn't lose the dressing room. We've seen at Liverpool what can happen when you kill a "legend" too quickly, or Chelsea with Lampard. Rooney is clearly a favourite in the dressing room, and that's something we don't want too disrupt. The fact is though he is just not doing it on the pitch, and sooner or later it will become inevitable that he has to be dropped.
When asked recently, LVG said it was up to the press to write what they thought. I think that was almost coded in a sense that "I know he's playing poorly, but I can't drop him until the world universally agrees". Now that the press are actually getting on his back, he will have the ammo to support the decision.
Either that or he will play him forever and ever.
When asked recently, LVG said it was up to the press to write what they thought. I think that was almost coded in a sense that "I know he's playing poorly, but I can't drop him until the world universally agrees". Now that the press are actually getting on his back, he will have the ammo to support the decision.
Either that or he will play him forever and ever.
I think I wasn't too clear. I don't doubt his effort - I just noticed that he has a sort of combative or 'Ill prove you wrong' sort of personality - and that's when you tend to see the best of him. Not having to prove himself means he becomes 'unconsciously complacent'. Once you've achieved everything in the game you need more motivation than ever to carry on delivering the same standards, and I think not fighting for his place is preventing him from having the 'right' motivation.
I'd like to know what kind of material he is serving up in the dressing room, that is so good that it could make the players take the news of his dropping with discontent.
Surely it's worse for morale to see a player who obviously isn't up to the standard on the pitch, getting guaranteed 90 mins every time we play. And whilst doing nothing on the pitch collecting more money than the rest.
Surely it's worse for morale to see a player who obviously isn't up to the standard on the pitch, getting guaranteed 90 mins every time we play. And whilst doing nothing on the pitch collecting more money than the rest.
Yep I see what you mean. I'm sure he's not as driven as he once was. A seriously rich, family man, in his 30s now and one who has been at the top of the game for a considerable length of time is unlikely to have the same hunger and focus as his 21yo self. Add that to his diminishing physical powers and you've got what we see now ie slow, laboured play, poor touch, bad decision making, risk averse etc etc
Perhaps being dropped will light a spark in him but I don't think so and we can't afford to let a declining Rooney hold us back now.
nail on head. Perfect
Yeah I agree. In the past, being dropped would have lit a flame under him, but I am also coming to the conclusion that we're way past that now. Big problem if you lose some of your hunger at the top level.
Man Utd 0:0 Middlesbrough
Rooney was shite in that first half. Never got a touch of the ball.
Made no runs in behind defenders at all.
Fecking cnut, invisible performance.
Why did he take the captain's armband off Carrick? That is a very Steven Gerrard thing to do.
Never saw Roy Keane, Giggs, Neville, Bruce or Vidic do that. I don't like it either
Never saw Roy Keane, Giggs, Neville, Bruce or Vidic do that. I don't like it either
Why Why Why was he subbed on!
He's just horrible. Completely and utterly Falcao'd without the injury excuse.
He plays without any authority or drive. He's just too comfortable. Should have been sold 3 years ago.
Oh, the LRBR crowd can feck off.
Oh, the LRBR crowd can feck off.
Lost the physical part of his game, 14 years playing non stop was bound to catch up on him.
That's the worst thing. He came on at half time and has just bimbled about at 2mph. He's not stretched the centre backs once.
Has played some delightful one-two's with the Boro defense today.
The what crowd?
He's at least looked like he can control a ball tonight. Offering no danger, but at least it's not bouncing off him 90% of the time.
He annoyed me less in the first half, I must say.He was equally shite in second half too.
Even coming on fresh vs somewhat tired defenders, he looks off the pace.
He's NOT out of form. He's just not that good anymore. Like Falcao last season. He is done at the top level. It's sad to watch him play nowadays.
He's NOT out of form. He's just not that good anymore. Like Falcao last season. He is done at the top level. It's sad to watch him play nowadays.
This is becoming disgraceful, like the club should seriously start looking into fining him wages. This isn't acceptable.
Let Rooney be Rooney. Apparently Fergie was shackling him, if SAF just let him be, Rooney would play better than Messi and Ronaldo combined.
What is LVG exactly expecting him to do, based on what Rooney has shown him this season? it's the equivalent of bring on Falcao right now.
I'm running out of words to express my sheer disappointment at Rooney. What a fecking joke.
Better first half than the second.
Making Daniel Ayala look like Roberto.
Can't we just take him out to the woods and leave him there?
Ah. I thought that's what it might stand for, but figured there can't be enough people that stupid for it to be an actual thing. Pity he didn't shackle his wrists to stop him signing that damn contract.
He now has gone back to stinking up the midfield while Fellaini has gone up front by the look of things.
You can't fine someone for being crap.
Nice little 1 2 with fellaini there. Thought he was going to smash it left footed into the crowd.
I wish he would just go away and never come back.
I'm actually starting to really dislike him now too, He just needs to accept he's done as a top level footballer and feck off. The club as a whole needs to get its act together, Brendan rodgers had the balls to force out a liverpool club legend in Gerrard so why can't we and he was loved by all liverpools fans.
The vast majority of United fans couldn't careless about rooney now so what is stopping them from doing the same.
I'm actually starting to really dislike him now too, He just needs to accept he's done as a top level footballer and feck off. The club as a whole needs to get its act together, Brendan rodgers had the balls to force out a liverpool club legend in Gerrard so why can't we and he was loved by all liverpools fans.
The vast majority of United fans couldn't careless about rooney now so what is stopping them from doing the same.
One touch on the counter brings 6 defenders back goal side of our attack.
Golfclap.
Golfclap.
Gerrard was in the last year of his contract. Our situation with Rooney is...different.
That counter........
You can, some of the players may be unh the next day though
I've defended Rooney enough in the past, wanting to give him the benefit of the doubt, but he really needs to be dropped, and left out. Why the hell was he brought on today? Honest to God. Useless. Absolutely useless performance.
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